Nvidia and AMD Price Cut Battle, Great GPUs Discontinued - GPU Pricing Update

[BogdanR]

Why would top end video cards be the same price they were back in the 1080ti days? $750 in 2017, the year the 1080ti launched, is around $950 today. Why would graphics cards defy inflation? Especially when people have shown they would pay 50-100% more for a GPU during the previous two crypto currency crisis's.

The 1080ti was Nvidia’s nec plus ultra back then. Good luck getting the current Nvidia nec plus ultra (4090) for $950.

 

[BogdanR]

Retailers in Canada treated these new releases in a simple, straightforward way: they kept the existing cards at the exact same price and slotted the new releases higher. There is no price battle here in the North.

 

[lripplinger]

Glad I got my MSI RX 6750XT when it was on sale. Great card, should last me awhile.

 

[Endymio]

If your process argument is to be believed please clarify why it doesn’t work for say Zen1 vs Zen4 CPUs.

Why, it most certainly does. You don't see the large price increase, though, because moving from (Zen) 1700, say, all the way to (Zen) 5 5700 only increased the transistor count from 4.9B to 10.7B -- barely doubling it. Whereas moving just the 3 generations from a 1080 to a 4080 increased the transistor count by 700% -- hence the price increase.

Simplistically puerile arguments of "greed" fail to take into account both the physics and the economic realities here.

 

[Ohnooze]

All I know is that the lowest price for the 4090 on newegg is $2k.....as far as I'm concerned to hell with nvidia.

 

[Ohnooze]

Still ridiculously overpriced; top end shouldn't be more than $700 MSRP.

Agree. It's so over the top and the bad part is people still pay it. Imagine the number of gamers not interested in moving on PC because of the crazy GPU prices.

 

[loki1944]

Scrooge McDuck himself would be proud of these discounts.

 

[BogdanR]

Why, it most certainly does. You don't see the large price increase, though, because moving from (Zen) 1700, say, all the way to (Zen) 5 5700 only increased the transistor count from 4.9B to 10.7B -- barely doubling it. Whereas moving just the 3 generations from a 1080 to a 4080 increased the transistor count by 700% -- hence the price increase.

Simplistically puerile arguments of "greed" fail to take into account both the physics and the economic realities here.

Thanks for your frankly dismissive responses, they truly make me take you seriously.
Besides, we did not even address the simple fact the same 1080 card would sell for close to CAD1600 two years later. Yes, Nvidia profited immensely from the crypto craze. When that ended, they figured out “why not keep those high prices for good?” So they did. They have an army of insulting hurling shills to defend them no matter what they do. Please note this is the last time I’m replying to you.

 

[Endymio]

We did not even address the simple fact the same 1080 card would sell for close to CAD1600 two years later.

Why, that's even easier to understand: the law of supply and demand. When the latter outstrips the former, prices must rise. Else, the shelves go bare.

In your zealous desire to knock all things NVidia, you forget that they only sell the chips. The ones making the Covid-era windfall profits were AIB maker or, more likely, scalping resellers.

they figured out “why not keep those high prices for good?” So they did

You fail to understand how the free market works. Any business can at any time choose to raise the price of their product. They don't for the simple reason that doing so generally reduces their net profits. Using some sampled data and some elementary calculus, any business major can calculate what price point maximizes a company's profits. And any public company which fails to charge this optimum price is shirking its fiduciary duty to shareholders, and may well wind up sued or worse.

Thanks for your frankly dismissive responses

No need to thank me; dispelling neo-socialist ignorance on the workings of the free market is everyone's civic duty!

 

[BogdanR]

Why, that's even easier to understand: the law of supply and demand. When the latter outstrips the former, prices must rise. Else, the shelves go bare.

In your zealous desire to knock all things NVidia, you forget that they only sell the chips. The ones making the Covid-era windfall profits were AIB maker or, more likely, scalping resellers.


You fail to understand how the free market works. Any business can at any time choose to raise the price of their product. They don't for the simple reason that doing so generally reduces their net profits. Using some sampled data and some elementary calculus, any business major can calculate what price point maximizes a company's profits. And any public company which fails to charge this optimum price is shirking its fiduciary duty to shareholders, and may well wind up sued or worse.


No need to thank me; dispelling neo-socialist ignorance on the workings of the free market is everyone's civic duty!

Thanks for explaining greed so eloquently. Because no matter how well you explain it or how euphemistic “duty to shareholders“ sounds, it still all reduces to one word: greed.
And I understand well, you’re the “greed is good” kind of guy with a special liking to nvidia.
All good.
Cheers!

 

[Endymio]

no matter how well you explain it or how euphemistic “duty to shareholders“ sounds, it still all reduces to one word: greed.

The hypocrite's guide to ethics:

Me selling my property to others for the best price I can get: common sense.
Others selling their property to me for the best price they can get: pernicious greed!

 

[BogdanR]

The hypocrite's guide to ethics:

Me selling my property to others for the best price I can get: common sense.
Others selling their property to me for the best price they can get: pernicious greed!

Also the hypocrite guide to capitalism:
Greed is good.

 

[b3rdm4n]

I reckon a survey of Techspot and HUB visitors isn't necessarily representative of the wider market.
Just look at the comment section under any article and you might notice the unusual level of sense of entitlement that's prevalent.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This really is the vocal, entitled minority, vocal being a very generous and gentle term in this instance.