Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti Review: The Future of Computer Graphics Is (Almost) Here

[Mithan]

Nice to see that my 1080ti will be around for a lot longer.

 

[Sum Guy]

Looks like the 1080ti is better value for the money if you are deciding between the 2080 or the 1080ti. $200 difference for the same performance. The 1080ti will either go up or the 2080 needs to come down.

 

[GameZenChill]

@Steve - On this page (page 5) the 2080 vs 1080Ti graphs repeat twice. I'm guessing the 2080Ti vs 1080Ti graphs have mistakenly been replaced by another 2080 vs 1080Ti graph.

 

[GameZenChill]

@Steve Walton Though the graphs seem correct WRT the improvement of the 2080 Ti vs the 1080 Ti in Arma for percent improvement seem correct, the text is not. Please consider correcting this. I did not check the rest of the math in the text, however.

Ed. note: Thank you, fixed

You sure it's fixed ? Because I can see the 2080 vs 1080Ti graph twice (each for 1440p and 4k). Seems like the 2080Ti vs 1080Ti graph is missing

 

[alabama man]

My current GPU will be the longest lasting yet, I bought it 4 years ago and it seems I'll be using it for at least another 2. 4K is a joke, decent gaming monitors costs way too much and need active cooling and even these new GPU's can barely manage playable FPS. I have the money but I'm not paying for practically nothing. Never before in my PC enthusiast life have I not upgraded GPU for such a long time, I hope AMD can manage to make a good competitor so GPU development wont stop all together.

 

[shm0wie]

No, no and again no. A 1080Ti GPU is almost half of 2080Ti. Silicon costs you know...

What are you even saying no to? Let alone 3 times. I don't understand your post.

Clearly the 20series will push the cost of the 10series down. Clearly the 1080 will become a card many gamers will pick up since it will be much more affordable than it has been. I don't.. understand what you're trying to say.

 

[ddferrari]

The big take away for me on this release is the no hiccups 4K performance of the 2080Ti. It's simply the GPU you need if running 4K. Not that the 2080 and 1080Ti, or even a 1080 and 1070 can't run 4K well, or even at a high refresh rate with the right game settings and/or games; but for true 4K beauty I can finally say there is a single GPU that will handle it.

The pricing is awful...I am actually hoping these cards don't sell that great but they will, as nerds with cashness will bust out bills to have their new RTX. But there is great news here.

The 1080Ti, 1080 and 1070 should be down to what I call 'humane prices'. My 670 still rocks at 2K/120Hz but I am ready for a new GPU...time to snipe a GTX 1080 off ebay.

Go for the 1080 Ti. It can be had for ~$500 and as you can see you get 2080 performance out of it.

Where have you seen a 1080 Ti for $500? I checked Newegg and Microcenter and the cheapest ones were $650 USD .. or did you mean a used 1080 Ti?

 

[RaXoR]

Where have you seen a 1080 Ti for $500? I checked Newegg and Microcenter and the cheapest ones were $650 USD .. or did you mean a used 1080 Ti?

Yes used.

 

[Sausagemeat]

It’s still early days yet. DLSS and RTX have yet to be implemented. I think the success of these cards will depend on how effective these techs are. They look absolutely amazing, I hope they live up to the hype.

 

[RaXoR]

It’s still early days yet. DLSS and RTX have yet to be implemented. I think the success of these cards will depend on how effective these techs are. They look absolutely amazing, I hope they live up to the hype.

Given the gameplay demos and the reports on DLSS, this is simply not the generation to buy if you want full capabilities on either technology. Nvidia is counting on the hype to move units while fully aware that it will not live up to expectations.

 

[m3tavision]

I am almost going to say, that the RTX 2k series is a flop.

The only real performance metric (as a whole) that really matters, is buying power. Don't compare model numbers... it is LOGICAL for the end-user to focus 100% directly on the card's MSRP, vs the MSRP of your old card.


Then (as an end user) weigh the deltas of (if) upgrading at cost, with and against a current GTX option, such as moving from a 1080 to a new 2080, or better yet a 1080ti..?

Price vs Price.... not model number bingo.

 

[Sausagemeat]

Given the gameplay demos and the reports on DLSS, this is simply not the generation to buy if you want full capabilities on either technology. Nvidia is counting on the hype to move units while fully aware that it will not live up to expectations.

I would say it’s too early to say if these techs will live up to expectations or not. Currently none of them are finished and available for consumers. Personally the DLSS tech looks very promising I think.

I also want to give kudos to Nvidia for trying. They could have just thrown more CUDA cores for a performance bump and called it a day. But I genuinely appreciate the fact that they are trying to add deep learning and Ray tracing to the traditional 3D rendering we are used to. It’s awesome really.

 

[Whatif]

At those prices just import them from the US. 1080 Tis are $500 USD + $70 shipping.

This can come with all sorts of headaches.
Yes, that is an option many of us take up, but our government is trying to stop that by introducing added import taxes and duties - they say we should be buying from our retailers, not from overseas. And you forgot the insurance cost as these are high priced items that do go missing in transit. Our biggest problem is not just overinflated prices, but lack of access to products. I have to import items because they are not sold here and with the new import costs, it is costing significantly more.
There is also the problem of warranty. Some companies like EVGA are excellent with worldwide warranty claims (EVGA USA did help, without any cost and no hassle, when I had a problem with a GTX1080). Samsung I have found to be the same. Whereas others like corsair make it very difficult (I know after trying to unsuccessfully get warranty on 2x 16GB modules of faulty DDR4 RAM, corsair refused to accept it - fortunately the original US shop assisted, but it did cost me a lot in shipping with insurance and it took over 3 months to sort out).

 

[Evernessince]

This can come with all sorts of headaches.
Yes, that is an option many of us take up, but our government is trying to stop that by introducing added import taxes and duties - they say we should be buying from our retailers, not from overseas. And you forgot the insurance cost as these are high priced items that do go missing in transit. Our biggest problem is not just overinflated prices, but lack of access to products. I have to import items because they are not sold here and with the new import costs, it is costing significantly more.
There is also the problem of warranty. Some companies like EVGA are excellent with worldwide warranty claims (EVGA USA did help, without any cost and no hassle, when I had a problem with a GTX1080). Samsung I have found to be the same. Whereas others like corsair make it very difficult (I know after trying to unsuccessfully get warranty on 2x 16GB modules of faulty DDR4 RAM, corsair refused to accept it - fortunately the original US shop assisted, but it did cost me a lot in shipping with insurance and it took over 3 months to sort out).

Insurance on international is essentially the same as domestic. You were going to be paying that amount whether you were in the states or not so the point is moot. USPS for example gives out $100 free insurance to domestic or international priority mail and the price is the exact same if you wish to add more on top of that shipping to California or Australlia. As far as USPS is concerned, they don't charge more based on the distance the package travels.

Corsair being corsair is nothing surprising. They have some of the worst warranty policies in the business. I'd try to stay away from companies like that if possible and yes EVGA is awesome. Buying from a trustworthy seller is also a huge plus.

Technically speaking the chances of RAM going bad is extremely low. The chances of both sticks going bad is less then one in one million (per G.Skill's numbers). If you had two bad sticks I'd be inclined to say shipping damage. Otherwise if you received them and they functioned perfectly fine and then both failed at the exact same time (or within the same time period) then I'd be inclined to say power delivery issues. In any case you should always be testing your RAM with MemTest (triple pass). I can't tell you how many times this has save me a lot of headaches.

 

[Whatif]

Crazy world where the 1080 Ti looks good value. Vega 64 has has a bit of a price drop in the UK - quite a few places have stocks at £439 so looks better value than the table above would place it. Whilst it looks like my 1080Ti at 1440p won't need upgrading until I go 4K - there could be some good deals out there especially come black Friday.

But with the price of 4K G-sync 144Hz monitors so high still (here they are around $3500 for a 27" add about $2000 for an RTX2080Ti and then however many thousand for the rest of the PC to get the best out of them), no sense in upgrading until they have all the bugs ironed out, the tech becomes more widely integrated into all the games and the prices become more realistic.
I am just sick and tired of hearing all the hype about how good they are when we cannot yet see the full capabilities.
And besides, they may bring out 8k in the meantime [not that we really need 8K monitors to game on, but we all want one ] which will probably mean another GPU upgrade (how many single GPU's out there would cope with gaming on an 8K monitor?).
In my humble and personal opinion, the best thing to do is if you are happy with what you have and it will play everything, wait and save your money.

 

[treetops]

So what is the 3080 going to have a 1% fps gain over the 2080 ti and cost $1000 on release?

 

[loki1944]

What CPU are you using?