Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti Review: The Future of Computer Graphics Is (Almost) Here

2080TI or 1080TI I can't see much of a difference in performance, 10-25 fps that's it. And that's nvidia was promoting as 11x faster and 10 years in development new era in computer graphics blah blah blah. But on the shelf its 499$ vs 1299$. Thanks for unbiased review btw.
 
This is all so funny to me since I don't plan on ever gaming past 1080p. 1080p still looks plenty good enough for my eyes. At that res, a 1070 is plenty good and gets the job done. Ray Tracing. Gimme an F-ing break on that. Probably won't see it mainstream in my lifetime or put another way, I will probably be too old to game by the time it gets here. Even DX12 is still not mainstream and how long ago did that come out? I used to be an Nvidia fan but now I just view them as price gougers. When they first brought out the "Ti", I knew it was all BS. Someone at Nvidia has this bright idea, "hey from now on when we bring out a new vid card model, we will hold back the full potential of the top dog and still call it the top dog and still charge the same as the top dog. Then we will release the top dog at it's full potential and call it the 'Ti' version and charge even more for it than the top dog". Everyone clapped in the board room and went, "Nice".
 
That may be true for some of us...but considering that the last time I built a system from scratch, the price for the 2080TI matches the cost that an entire system without a GPU would run me, that's when the phrase, "Oh, it's only half my paycheck" has a lot less meaning than the phrase, "What the frack, I just doubled the cost of my system with a single component?!?!?"
No argument there. However that being said allow me some quick math. Last time I spent alot of money on a system it was a 6core lga 2011 beast worth about 1k and about that time 4tb hard drives were norm and the 980gtx just was coming out. Best money could buy. Lasted about 7 years in fact one of the best and longest time between purchases ever and I been into computer since the TRS 80 was king. Fast forward to today and recently upgraded all hardware but graphics card and technology has tippled in capacity/performance/core count/ however you want to measure things and prices have about doubled for the tripling. IE 6 core now is 18core beast but price increase from 1k to 2k. Same with hard drives from 4tb to 12tb prices also doubled. the new 2080ti is easily worth 3 980gtx and yes prices have increased but not everyone thinks they are all that expensive for the tripling of old hardware.
 
That may be true for some of us...but considering that the last time I built a system from scratch, the price for the 2080TI matches the cost that an entire system without a GPU would run me, that's when the phrase, "Oh, it's only half my paycheck" has a lot less meaning than the phrase, "What the frack, I just doubled the cost of my system with a single component?!?!?"
No argument there. However that being said allow me some quick math. Last time I spent alot of money on a system it was a 6core lga 2011 beast worth about 1k and about that time 4tb hard drives were norm and the 980gtx just was coming out. Best money could buy. Lasted about 7 years in fact one of the best and longest time between purchases ever and I been into computer since the TRS 80 was king. Fast forward to today and recently upgraded all hardware but graphics card and technology has tippled in capacity/performance/core count/ however you want to measure things and prices have about doubled for the tripling. IE 6 core now is 18core beast but price increase from 1k to 2k. Same with hard drives from 4tb to 12tb prices also doubled. the new 2080ti is easily worth 3 980gtx and yes prices have increased but not everyone thinks they are all that expensive for the tripling of old hardware.
As someone who has been around since the TRS 80, you know full well that most people think these are way too expensive as technology typically gets cheaper while getting more powerful.

The power of a 486 was WAY more then triple that of a 8086, yet the price was a fraction of what it was before. Same in the modern space, a ryzen 7 of modern i5 offer more then double the performance of the est core 2 quads for half the price those went for back in the day.
 
I’m disappointed, I definitely expected to see better than 1080ti performance on the 2080. Looks like I’m going to have to shell out for the 2080ti. And seeing a 2080ti appears to be held back by the 8700K in some games (let alone my 4790K) I’m probably going to want to get one of the newer 9xxxx series chips to go with it, that with some expensive DDR4 memory, a fancy new mobo, an M2 drive and it’s actually basically almost full months pay that il be shelling out. I might just not and put the money toward another long holiday somewhere hot and fun.

AMD really need to pull their finger out their asses and revive Radeon for the enthusiast market. Decades ago we used to need Nvidia to keep AMD in check, now it’s the other way round!
 
A decent card at $600. At $1200 this is a ridiculous clown car.

Per core this doesnt seem much faster then pascal, all that was done was throw more cores at the problem. And it seems these have the same clock ceilings as pascal.

So would you say Nvidia has only been selling clown cars for 5 years?

-2013, GK100: $1000
-2016, GP104: $700
-2018, TU102: $1200

What's the problem? This price hike happened in 2013 lol, it's like Nvidia fans took 5 years to notice the future they paid for...

The Titan sold out at $1000, then it sold out at $1200, and the 1080 sold out at $700. In fact the 1080 was closer to $800 the entire holiday season of 2016, and you know what - that's the price of the 2080 lol. This isn't anything new people.
 
As someone who has been around since the TRS 80, you know full well that most people think these are way too expensive as technology typically gets cheaper while getting more powerful.

The power of a 486 was WAY more then triple that of a 8086, yet the price was a fraction of what it was before. Same in the modern space, a ryzen 7 of modern i5 offer more then double the performance of the est core 2 quads for half the price those went for back in the day.

yeah and a cup of joe was 5cents the orginal vw beatle sold for $1,699 houses use to cost $26,600.00... price of everything goes up and wages stay stagnate. This is the world we live in because we keep electing leaders that are in the pocket of corporations.
 
What 1080ti was used for the benchmarks? Every single review I have seen so far the 2080 beat the 1080ti the only time they matched was when a Oc'd 1080ti matched a stock performing 2080 comparing Oc'd versions the 2080 still beats it easily.
 
After a year of inflated prices due to indirect mining demand

What was indirect in that demand? :)

Also, in this day and age, it is not outside reasonable to want to see 8K benchmarks included. There should be 8K monitors to become available toward the end of the year, cheaper than the current proposal from DELL.
After a year of inflated prices due to indirect mining demand

What was indirect in that demand? :)

Also, in this day and age, it is not outside reasonable to want to see 8K benchmarks included. There should be 8K monitors to become available toward the end of the year, cheaper than the current proposal from DELL.

A 2080ti averaged 14 to 23 fps. Although I agree with you we are still far from coming remotely close to running it.
 
Clearly the only one worth buying is the 2080Ti.... and you'd be a fool to buy it now... If you MUST have the current generation, I'd wager that Nvidia will release a Titan in a few months that will cost around $1500 and be a bit faster than the Ti...but not enough to justify it to anyone who isn't made of money... but if you're buying these cards, you should be made of money :)

I'm still sitting with 3 Maxwell Titans like a m0ron, so this time I'm going to learn my lesson and wait :)
 
Wait, they're charging top dollar for top end products? The nerve!
So 30-35% improvement in a gen (reasonable, not amazing) but list prices go up 40-43% (or 72-80% for FEs). That's not how it worked in the past but what other option do you have? Pretty much: buy a reasonably priced 10 series and wait for the next gen.
AMD, your move. You did it with Ryzen, can you make lightning strike twice with 7nm Navi/Vega? IMO they won't.
 
Wow, they are cheap over there.
How about around $1500 Australian for just the RTX2080 and that is a partners card, not the Founders edition!
And then the Ti model is supposed to be at least A$2000 (leaks say about A$2300)
Even the GTX1080Ti are still selling for A$1200 (EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 GAMING)
I cannot afford a good 4K gaming monitor (up to about A$3500), nor can I afford VR gear (HTC Vive Pro over A$2000) so I game on a QHD 100Hz GSync monitor (cost almost A$800 - a A$350 premium over the similar FreeSync version).
I don't care how good they are, there will be no upgrading while the prices they are asking here are absolutely ridiculous.
 
After a year of inflated prices due to indirect mining demand

What was indirect in that demand? :)

Also, in this day and age, it is not outside reasonable to want to see 8K benchmarks included. There should be 8K monitors to become available toward the end of the year, cheaper than the current proposal from DELL.
To be honest, yes I, too, would like to see 8K benchmarks.
 
Wow, they are cheap over there.
How about around $1500 Australian for just the RTX2080 and that is a partners card, not the Founders edition!
And then the Ti model is supposed to be at least A$2000 (leaks say about A$2300)
Even the GTX1080Ti are still selling for A$1200 (EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 GAMING)
I cannot afford a good 4K gaming monitor (up to about A$3500), nor can I afford VR gear (HTC Vive Pro over A$2000) so I game on a QHD 100Hz GSync monitor (cost almost A$800 - a A$350 premium over the similar FreeSync version).
I don't care how good they are, there will be no upgrading while the prices they are asking here are absolutely ridiculous.

At those prices just import them from the US. 1080 Tis are $500 USD + $70 shipping.
 
There is not one cell in my body that cares for 8K.

Gaming is still equivalent to putting one flower in a garden because we spent all our money on just the one flower. We can't make a 1080 map look realistic. So we settle for making our screens larger and more difficult to populate. That does not make any sense.
 
Well that's some terrible price:performance 2080ti, I guess I'll give you a miss.

Steve, where are the 2080ti vs 1080ti graphs in the summary!? I suspect many of us have come here for that, and what's not to like about more graphs?
 
Ok, now AMD give me a 1080Ti/2080 performance level GPU for 500-600 USD and I'll buy it in a glance.
 
Its rather hilarious how people here pretend like they have to "upgrade" to these cards that cost twice as much and justify this only with a new technology that practically doesn't exist and when it does completely destroys performance for a visual "upgrade" that is hard to notice without side by side comparision.

You can still play everything out there well in 1440p with maxed details and 60fps with a GTX 980ti.

If money is really such an issue then keep the 980ti and wait for the next generation.

What is this even? Costs way more and needs far more power.

Also I'd like to point out that for the price of an RTX 2080 you can get an Xbox One X + PS4 pro + UHD Monitor. And the consoles would be bundled with games on top.


Also I swear ubisoft is deliberately destroying performance in their new games to make people feel like they have to buy the next generation.

Far Cry 5 does not look better than Crysis 2 and yet it pushes an i7 8700K and GTX 1080 to its limits while Crysis 2 ran on an i7 4770K and GTX 770.
 
Thanks TechSpot for an honest review. But what happen to Huang's It Just Works?

Overall, I am quite happy with my under-volt + OC Vega 56 + Crossover 3412UM 47Hz-95Hz FreeSync limited edition ultrawide monitor. Been using this excellent setup for 1 year now.

Looks like my next upgrade will be a brand new 4K OLED with AdaptiveSync support and a PS5. Going to play those nice exclusives!
 
I expected the 2080 to be at least 50% more powerful than the 1080 for the prices that they are charging and don't get me started on the 2080ti.

I'll stick with my 1080 for a while still. Price vs performance, its not worth it to me to upgrade.
I'll keep my money this time Nvidia.
 
Also I swear ubisoft is deliberately destroying performance in their new games to make people feel like they have to buy the next generation.

Far Cry 5 does not look better than Crysis 2 and yet it pushes an i7 8700K and GTX 1080 to its limits while Crysis 2 ran on an i7 4770K and GTX 770.
It's not just Ubisoft, it became a trend. Visual improvements are minor yet require way more power to run smoothly. If you take Crysis 2 for example it looks just as good aa most new games and runs much better. Some indie games with cartoony graphics that should run on any configuration struggle with most.
 
Crazy world where the 1080 Ti looks good value. Vega 64 has has a bit of a price drop in the UK - quite a few places have stocks at £439 so looks better value than the table above would place it. Whilst it looks like my 1080Ti at 1440p won't need upgrading until I go 4K - there could be some good deals out there especially come black Friday.
 
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