The 'new' GeForce RTX 3080 Ti is essentially an RTX 3090 with half the VRAM. Normally, this could be considered good news since it's cheaper at $1,200, but with current stock issues, at least from a gamers perspective it changes nothing.
The 'new' GeForce RTX 3080 Ti is essentially an RTX 3090 with half the VRAM. Normally, this could be considered good news since it's cheaper at $1,200, but with current stock issues, at least from a gamers perspective it changes nothing.
I don't see any point in the release of this card. It's just a crippled 3090. Meaningless.
Limiting th hashrate makes it worse for everyone, gamers could mine on the side to get some money back."It changes nothing"
Well, it could if the hash limiter works. But probably in the long run: even if useless to mining that's only a part of the equation and Nvidia just not meeting demand as it has continued to build up even and also distributors and retailers that probably would resist lowering prices back down even if they start accumulating some inventory means you probably won't see MSRP for these on 2021
I think the second part is the real issue here: We've seen actual auctions and photographs of pallets with hundreds of GPUs of the exact same models being sold for hundreds of thousands to miners.Limiting th hashrate makes it worse for everyone, gamers could mine on the side to get some money back.
If nVidia truly cared about gamers, it would've realised cheaper Ampere cards, and stop selling directly to huge mining farms, and punishing retailers/distributors that inflate the prices, not crippling the card.
The problem is that there's the 3090 already.3080 Ti compete with 6900XT cause it is the closest GPU in the price. Yes both card bad value compared to cheaper models
But 3080 Ti is not bad value compared to 6900XT. It cost little more (based on official price) it. performs better in 4K, much better in RT and also support DLSS2.0 on top of that. It does cost little more, but for people who already paying 1000 dollars it is not going to make much difference. Going by that, 3080 Ti is good alternative (if not better) to 6900XT
If you going to conclude that 3080 Ti is not for gamers, then 6900XT is also not for gamers.
That exaggerates the problem but the main problem remains global shortages, that's why we can't buy new consoles, Zen3 CPUs, RDNA2, and even cars are in the same situation.I think the second part is the real issue here: We've seen actual auctions and photographs of pallets with hundreds of GPUs of the exact same models being sold for hundreds of thousands to miners.
That's really the long and short of the shortage if you ask me: It really isn't that much about scalpers: could have been at launch but several months afterwards the scalper market is a secondary market created by the core operation which is miners picking up pallets of cards directly from distributors or even the AIB partners themselves.
And on that regard you are right: While there's only so much Nvidia can do to control all the supply chain line up until point-of-sale we also know Nvidia has infrastructure in place to sell direct: it's just a matter of them expanding their capabilities. Does that costs money, both money down for Nvidia to manage retail sales and money lost from angry partners? Sure. But we also know Nvidia has *plenty* of money to invest back into gamers if they wanted to.
But their action plan seems to be futile attempts to cripple the cards and burying their heads in the sand hoping they don't lose too many long time customers when this is all said and done. Except this is the second time it happens in relative quick succession so that's obviously not going to work.
"This increased power saw the peak operating temperature rise by 2C to 77C and the fan speed by 200 RPM to 2100 RPM, "
I think you mean 2000 RPM? Otherwise, that would be quite the increase....
I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by this release.... Nvidia does this to their Titan cards every time... I remember the 980Ti making my Titans obsolete just a few months after purchase....
That's certainly the official story. Now, I'm inclined to believe a global increase in demand on these fabs across multiple areas caused the issue in conjunction with the pandemic restrictions and stopping, however, I say "Official story" for a reason: I just don't think none of the companies couldn't foresee the increase in demand as companies are very likely to bid for fab allocation year in advance of the nodes actually being considered good enough for production runs.That exaggerates the problem but the main problem remains global shortages, that's why we can't buy new consoles, Zen3 CPUs, RDNA2, and even cars are in the same situation.
Given the level of greed I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. It makes more sense than those blaming mining.That's certainly the official story. Now, I'm inclined to believe a global increase in demand on these fabs across multiple areas caused the issue in conjunction with the pandemic restrictions and stopping, however, I say "Official story" for a reason: I just don't think none of the companies couldn't foresee the increase in demand as companies are very likely to bid for fab allocation year in advance of the nodes actually being considered good enough for production runs.
So it's probably not entirely false that they had *some* unforeseen difficulties but:
1) I just don't think they couldn't foresee the greater demand at all
2) I also don't think they're being sincere in their estimations of how much time it's taking them to recover.
The motivations for 1) and 2) are quite simple: Price fixing.
Eh, I won't conclude that it cost "a little more" than the RX 6900 XT. Looking at current pricing of RTX 3080, it is more expensive than a RX 6900 XT. So unless you can really get a RTX 3080 Ti at the supposed MSRP, otherwise you are likely going to pay a lot more for the 3080 Ti.3080 Ti compete with 6900XT cause it is the closest GPU in the price. Yes both card bad value compared to cheaper models
But 3080 Ti is not bad value compared to 6900XT. It cost little more (based on official price) it. performs better in 4K, much better in RT and also support DLSS2.0 on top of that. It does cost little more, but for people who already paying 1000 dollars it is not going to make much difference. Going by that, 3080 Ti is good alternative (if not better) to 6900XT
If you going to conclude that 3080 Ti is not for gamers, then 6900XT is also not for gamers.