Looking at the performance gap between the 4080 and 4070/4070ti, and Core count, and small bump in memory size, What we're looking at here is a RTX4060 that shareholders decided to slap a 4070 sticker on. There won't be a "best bang per buck REAL 4070" this generation. It's canceled. The 4060 will be a rebranded bottom of the barrel 4050. If they release a 4050, it will be from last gen off the self silicon that already depreciated to $zero.
You know, that does make a lot of sense when I think about it. I think that you're right.
That's from someone who's been following closely since the Nvidia GTX400/ AMD HD5000 series (when I got my first paycheck).
Ah yes, ol' Fermi! The source of the meme:
"nVidia, the way it was
meant to be delayed!"
And Evergreen, whose #1 son, Hemlock, "brutally sodomized" the GTX 295!
These are extreme anti consumer companies with anti consumer products. Lack of competition in the last six years allowed the shareholders to take control and focus on profit alone.
This is true, but the lack of competition is also the fault of lazy and/or brain-dead consumers who just throw money at nVidia without actually looking at which is best for their case-use. Right now, there is literally no reason to buy a GeForce card from a price/performance perspective (I mean, it's not even close) but it doesn't have the effect that it's supposed to in a non-broken market.
I'm willing to bet that consumers today are sooo stupid that, even at the same price , the RTX 3070 Ti is
out-selling the RX 6950 XT? That's the only way that its price could get that high to begin with. Even with all of the hard evidence that getting an 8GB or 10GB RTX card that can be found everywhere, I
still see some muppets talking about getting one (even on here, where you'd think that people would know better). It blows my mind but it also explains why we're in the situation that we're in. The lack of competition isn't because of nVidia or AMD but instead is the result of consumers buying nVidia no matter what. I think that this has been the case for three generations now and AMD has given up actually trying to compete by offering better value because consumers haven't responded to it, like, at all.
Buy an Xbox/steam deck now or wait for the PS5 Pro/Switch 2. They're all great products and if everyone actually boycotts gaming PCs starting today, I guarantee you that next year you will see the RTX5090 for $1,000 with %75 more performance than the 4090, you'll also see the 5080 slightly below that for $800 and a "proper" 5070 slightly below the 5080 for $600, and a 5060 that doubles the performance of this 4070 for $400, and a $200 RTX5050 playing games @2K with 120FPS.
^^^ THIS ^^^
As long as things don't get any worse than they are now, I'll probably be a member of the PC Master Race until I die (because I've already been in it for almost 40 years) but I'm unable to recommend it to anyone I know because when a video card costs more than an entire console, it's just a bad financial decision to get one.
If things
do get worse, I
will eventually buy a console. Fortunately, I expect that I'll have at least five years to make that decision because, at this point, I'm not buying
any new hardware until my R7-5800X3D and RX 6800 XT become completely unusable for games. Unless things get A LOT better, I won't upgrade until my current PC can't even game at potato settings. If we're still in the same boat then that we are now, I won't even upgrade my PC because I'll just use it as an HTPC and I'll buy a PlayStation.