Petition to allow Tesla to sell directly to consumers surpasses 100,000 signatures, earns White...

Shawn Knight

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An online petition urging the White House to allow Tesla Motors to sell their fleet of electric vehicles directly to the public has amassed more than 100,000 signatures. Having passed the 100,000 signature threshold within 30 days of creation (just...

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VitalyT

Russ-Puss
Let's see the White House response first, before getting all jittery about it. This will be a good indication of how much democracy is still left in the states, if any...
 

9Nails

TechSpot Paladin
I thought it was an open market? You mean if I wanted to buy a Tesla before, I couldn't walk in to a dealership and buy one?!
 

Puiu

TS Evangelist
I thought it was an open market? You mean if I wanted to buy a Tesla before, I couldn't walk in to a dealership and buy one?!
It meas that unlike Toyota or other companies, Tesla had to sell their cars through a third party. (similar to how microsoft is doing on the xbox with indie games - they have to find a publisher)
 

Per Hansson

TS Server Guru
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I am baffled that this is not the way things already where in the US, I really hope congress makes the right decision!
 

Darth Shiv

TS Evangelist
No kidding! Did we lose a war or something?
I wasn't really talking about the war even. For a "free country", and one trying to rid itself of dependence on fossil fuel, isn't it interesting that there are laws preventing progressive car fuel replacement tech? It's as if the fossil fuels industries and the government have shared interests and have introduced laws to prevent competition. It's pretty shameful that you would need to ask permission from the government to sell such a product in the same manner as the existing market - pretty blatant anti-competitive practice.
 
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Wagan8r

TS Evangelist
I don't get why people are complaining. Has anybody EVER bought an automobile directly from the manufacturer? You always have to go through a dealer. Now, is that the way it should be? Probably not, but it seems to me that Tesla is the one asking for an unfair advantage to do something its competitors can't.
 

Julien

TS Member
I don't get why people are complaining. Has anybody EVER bought an automobile directly from the manufacturer? You always have to go through a dealer. Now, is that the way it should be? Probably not, but it seems to me that Tesla is the one asking for an unfair advantage to do something its competitors can't.
You have summarized the core argument right there.
 
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My god kids, read a history book! The reason rules like this are set in place is to protect people from companies becoming a monopoly. Law makers years ago were smart enough to realize that competition is the key to growth,advancement,and a better product. Imagine if there were ONE cell phone company,ONE internet provider,ONE car company. Nothing would ever change because there would be no competition. Puiu mentioned Microsoft in his comment. Microsoft has actually been sued by the US government for being in violation of monopoly laws. If not, Apple may have been nothing but a shadow of what it is now. Businesses in their nature are designed to eliminate all competition. These laws do what is necessary to protect us from this happening.[SIZE=14px][/SIZE]

Should there be an incentive for small businesses who need a leg up on competition? Possibly. But there should be a clause that states that after a period of time, or after a certain amount of profit, Tesla would have to abide by the same rules as everyone else. If a better product is introduced in the future, you better believe Tesla will try to eliminate its competition. Remember that the more competition a market has, the greater the benefits to the end user are.
 

Puiu

TS Evangelist
My god kids, read a history book! The reason rules like this are set in place is to protect people from companies becoming a monopoly. Law makers years ago were smart enough to realize that competition is the key to growth,advancement,and a better product. Imagine if there were ONE cell phone company,ONE internet provider,ONE car company. Nothing would ever change because there would be no competition. Puiu mentioned Microsoft in his comment. Microsoft has actually been sued by the US government for being in violation of monopoly laws. If not, Apple may have been nothing but a shadow of what it is now. Businesses in their nature are designed to eliminate all competition. These laws do what is necessary to protect us from this happening.

Should there be an incentive for small businesses who need a leg up on competition? Possibly. But there should be a clause that states that after a period of time, or after a certain amount of profit, Tesla would have to abide by the same rules as everyone else. If a better product is introduced in the future, you better believe Tesla will try to eliminate its competition. Remember that the more competition a market has, the greater the benefits to the end user are.
There is no monopoly in the car industry even with electric cars since there are a fair number that make them. (-->oligolpoly) You talk about laws protecting companies from becoming a monopoly, but I see no logic there. The laws that are in discussion here have nothing to do with protecting from a monopoly --> it actually stops smaller companies from entering the market because their products are sold at higher price than what they wanted them to be sold at. (that third party company must make a profit too and the end user pays for it)
We don't need to imagine one cell phone company, etc: we have many and the laws should reflect that. At the moment many laws actually protect the big companies, smaller ones just can't compete. (and this can be seen best in the car industry)
 
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Didn't Henry ford have to prove the automobile could not be patented before he could sell the model a. in turn making J.P Morgan and Rockefeller richer & richer
maybe the government will work in this case.
side note I would have signed the petition if I would have known
 

danwat1234

TS Rookie
[SIZE=14px][FONT=Helvetica Neue]It's October 24th 2013 and the White House still hasn't given a response to the petition? What's with that?[/FONT][/SIZE]
 

captaincranky

TechSpot Addict
How could you possibly or effectively eliminate, "the middleman", without the US economy collapsing? I thought the United States population was almost entirely made up of "middlemen". Mexicans harvest the food, and the the legal citizens spend their time happily, (and profitably), selling garbage manufactured in Asia to one another.

[SIZE=14px][FONT=Helvetica Neue]It's October 24th 2013 and the White House still hasn't given a response to the petition? What's with that?[/FONT][/SIZE]
Give the White House a break, it probably just fully reopened. Maybe the job of answering petitions, is the job of a person, (or persons), who are "nonessential employees".....