Porous electrode batteries 2000x more powerful, charge 1000x faster, 30x smaller

By Rick ยท 33 replies
Apr 18, 2013
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  1. University of Illinois researchers have uncovered a way to design batteries that are thousands of times more powerful, 30 times smaller and charge 1000 times faster than current offerings. If what the research team claims is true, the next generation...

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  2. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    Great news. Batteries are the bottleneck for a ton of technology. I read a while back that they developed an 'invisibility' cloak that was basically a wearable flexible screen that would output on your front whatever was behind you. Problem was in order to make it work outdoors it had to be able to be bright, which meant either plug it into a wall or deal with battery life of like 3 minutes.

    Hopefully these will be cost effective enough to get the electric car market rolling (ha!). Until people can recharge in a similar amount of time it takes to fill up with gas and have a battery last 300 miles AND have good pickup and speed, we'll be stuck with expensive solutions like the Volt.
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  3. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,665   +1,949

    1000 times more explosion-prone, spontaneously? Read other sources on the Internet, not this one.
    They should call it a nuke.

    AD: Get our new battery pack, it's a blast!
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  4. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,352   +293

    If this type of advance can be applied on a larger scale, it could very well push the electric vehicle from "novelty" to "feasible" for many people who don't even consider EVs due to range limits and charging times... Hope it's not one of those technological advances that looks great on paper and in very small controlled environments, but falls apart when faced with real world applications.
  5. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,728   +3,701

    Sadly that only works from one specific angle. Any other angle and the projection would no longer be camouflage. Unless I'm mistaken they have not invented a projection device that will project differently from different viewing angle. Each pixel point would literally need to be capable of projecting panoramic view. Therefor you would need the power of nVidia Titan for each pixel point. Even with these batteries and our current tech, I don't think we are ready for invisibility cloaks.
  6. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,475   +126

    Back in the early 90s where I was working at, I had met a NASA Scientist / Engineer here in South Florida, USA, who told me a tale about batteries NASA had tested. So he had said they had battery that lasted 3 years even if used daily. It was no smaller than 9-volt battery. It wasn't available to the public and he also mention that it would never be.

    Today 2013 and still what do we have for batteries. Rechargeable, Lion, Niah, Alks, Heavy Duty, Regular.
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  7. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,728   +3,701

    The battery in my watch holds true under those terms. Can you give an example of total daily power consumption?
  8. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,475   +126

    No this was not watch batteries and those tech are not changed much from the 80s to now. What I had mention is all I remember. I had pose the question to him about batteries. He wasn't at liberty to tell me more about it. If had I would tell you.

    Listen to this in 2006, I met two UTC Power Engineers they had came to my house up New England, USA where I was prior. They told me a tale which is in fact used today but only in Japan. They said they had power cells that can power entire home that was the same size of outdoor central air handler. These don't need to be on the electric grid like we are tap into today. Both of these engineers said that this device won't be sold in the USA because of the electric companies won't allow it.
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  9. Forget electric cars, I just want to see a smart-phone that can last ~5 days without re-charging :)
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  10. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    And you just plug it in and then... Bam charged in 1 second.
  11. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    Are you referring to the sort of power cells Google uses for it's headquarters?

    Your story sounds totally believable though. Here's a story from WIRED about the waterless urinal. It's cleaner and great for the environment. Also cheaper because you don't need half the plumbing. But that's the problem. The plumbers unions blocked it for years because it meant less work for them. The final solution? They allowed it only if they were still allowed to run the pipes and cap them off behind the wall. No joke. Read all about it.
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  12. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,665   +1,949

    Forget electric cars, I want one where you plug your phone into a cradle and it powers the car off the phone for a month! That'll be alright.

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,256   +454

    I doubt manufacturing will be simply and economic. But if this does indeed pan out, and manufacturing can be sorted out, this could make electric cars a viable solution. Rather than the joke they are now... My question is of the longevity of these batteries using porous electrodes because as we all know, chemicals don't last forever when going through usage cycles.
  14. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    Implantable electronics would be great. Health-risks aside, imagine strapping a conduction loop to your wrist every so often for minute to charge up!
  15. veLa

    veLa TS Evangelist Posts: 782   +235

    I hear about new battery technology like this every couple of months only for it to never be applied.
  16. Scshadow

    Scshadow TS Evangelist Posts: 511   +152

    Basically this. I don't care what they are able to do anymore especially with batteries. I only care what is actually brought to market.
  17. NTAPRO

    NTAPRO TS Evangelist Posts: 809   +102

    Haha, there's no profit in such long lasting batteries lol
  18. soldier1969

    soldier1969 TS Booster Posts: 244   +43

    Show me a smartphone or laptop or battery drill that can last a week on one charge, on its brightest/max settings and or be used all day every day during that week then I will be impressed.
  19. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,665   +1,949

    Anybody seen movie "Day and Knight"? - Hollywood version about a super battery, a single AAA to feed an entire city :)
  20. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,285   +243

    your "tale" is consistent with the practice of the oil industry in not supporting alternate fuel technology...despite the claims of some of supporting "green energy".

    if such long life battery tech is marketed today, china, as a mass-manufacturing giant, will rise further economically.
  21. Finally, a battery that will allow Windows 8 to last a day
  22. spencer

    spencer TS Addict Posts: 202   +22

    If only tesla could have lived longer...
  23. DarkDragon7

    DarkDragon7 TS Rookie

    Even it is real, The Time still not right for the battery companies to manufacturing high-end batteries that will ruin their sales and profits.
  24. OK! Now send the technology to China already so they can mass produce it and send the batteries back to us. We are waiting!
  25. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,728   +3,701

    There is no need in sending anything to China. If the technology exist, China will find a way to steal it.

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