RAM and SSD prices will soon plummet due to oversupply and weak demand

[fps4ever]

I choose high performance drives for a reason for the comparison.

If you are looking at budget options to compare there are no budget pcie 4.0 drives.

LOL OK. Your average desktop user/gamer does not care about benchmarks and massive IOP's. Some of those "budget" SSD's get pretty high scores and reviews.

 

[Lionvibez]

That isn't my argument.

If one has the budget and going AM4 550/570 it makes sense to go PCIe 4.0 on a new build. If you can only afford to spend $100 on a drive then you don't even need to be considering this because there are no options for you in that price range for 4.0 drives.

I'm not going to get into a argument about what the average desktop user or gamer does or doesn't do with their machines.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Am I the only one that wouldn't classify a 10% drop as a plummet?

 

[fps4ever]

That isn't my argument.

If one has the budget and going AM4 550/570 it makes sense to go PCIe 4.0 on a new build. If you can only afford to spend $100 on a drive then you don't even need to be considering this because there are no options for you in that price range for 4.0 drives.

I'm not going to get into a argument about what the average desktop user or gamer does or doesn't do with their machines.

That is not for you to decide. That is up to each individual. I don't care what argument you were trying to make I proved you wrong on the one we went back and forth with. If you can save $75 for basically the same performance you can spend that on more ram or something else more beneficail like a graphics card than the number 4 next to the ssd. That is my point.

 

[Lionvibez]

That is not for you to decide. That is up to each individual. I don't care what argument you were trying to make I proved you wrong on the one we went back and forth with. If you can save $75 for basically the same performance you can spend that on more ram or something else more beneficail like a graphics card than the number 4 next to the ssd. That is my point.

Explain to me how me saying if one has the budget.

equals me deciding for other people?

And you didn't prove anything wrong at all.

As I pointed out you cannot make a comparison at price point you are looking at.

And I'm not looking for a childish argument of you trying to one up one someone I have better things to do with my time boss.

 

[Burty117]

If you can save $75 for basically the same performance

It's not "basically the same performance" though, it's near double the performance.

I know what you're trying to say, "you won't notice that extra performance" but fact is, you pay that extra £75 for way more performance that can only be achieved on the B550 / X570 platforms.

Whether you notice it or not is down to your work load on the drive but don't say "basically the same performance" as that's simply not true.

 

[fps4ever]

Explain to me how me saying if one has the budget.

equals me deciding for other people?

And you didn't prove anything wrong at all.

As I pointed out you cannot make a comparison at price point you are looking at.

And I'm not looking for a childish argument of you trying to one up one someone I have better things to do with my time boss.

LOL wow....not one upping anyone just pointing out common sense price buying. That applies to budget enthusiests are hardcore builders/spenders. Everyone likes to save money where they can. I have no idea what the 4th sentence even means? Settle down.

 

[fps4ever]

It's not "basically the same performance" though, it's near double the performance.

I know what you're trying to say, "you won't notice that extra performance" but fact is, you pay that extra £75 for way more performance that can only be achieved on the B550 / X570 platforms.

Whether you notice it or not is down to your work load on the drive but don't say "basically the same performance" as that's simply not true.

Sure it is for the average user....show me some tests that prove otherwise.

 

[PEnnn]

The obligatory, every 6 months article about something that never happens!!

If I had a penny for each article claiming those prices will go down for reason XYZ, I'd have enough money for a 20 TB SSD and a triple SLI 2080TI by now!!

Prices are still the same as one year ago and even longer, sheesh!! The only SSDs that are getting cheaper are those nobody really cares for 128 - 256 GB and the occasional 500 GB.

1 TB and higher?? Good luck!!

 

[Mr Majestyk]

Great news, I will be upgrading one PC and doing a total rebuild of another by Xmas once Zen 3 and Ampere/RDNA2 are shipping so price drops on these two things is very welcome.

 

[GirlDownunder]

I'd say it will depend on whether there's another COVID spike in Sept, as has been predicted. If that happens, all we have in a given country is ALL there will be, for a long while.

 

[Burty117]

Sure it is for the average user....show me some tests that prove otherwise.

I... I'm speechless. It's like you haven't read a single review of a PCI-E 4.0 SSD. So I guess here's a link to Techspot's article on this exact matter.

Basically exactly like @Lionvibez said, the price difference between a decent PCI-E 3.0 vs 4.0 isn't enough to recommend going for the slower drive and much cheaper NVME drives don't get close to the performance of either.

Why do you even bother with an NVME drive anyway? Why not stick to a cheaper Sata SSD if your argument is purely based on "you won't notice it".

On top of this, If you are a gamer, Game engines over the next few years will now start adapting to take advantage of SDD's since the lowest common denominator (Consoles) will now feature them by default. I think it's reasonable to assume a faster SSD will load a game faster over the coming years.

 

[fps4ever]

I... I'm speechless. It's like you haven't read a single review of a PCI-E 4.0 SSD. So I guess here's a link to Techspot's article on this exact matter.

Basically exactly like @Lionvibez said, the price difference between a decent PCI-E 3.0 vs 4.0 isn't enough to recommend going for the slower drive and much cheaper NVME drives don't get close to the performance of either.

Why do you even bother with an NVME drive anyway? Why not stick to a cheaper Sata SSD if your argument is purely based on "you won't notice it".

On top of this, If you are a gamer, Game engines over the next few years will now start adapting to take advantage of SDD's since the lowest common denominator (Consoles) will now feature them by default. I think it's reasonable to assume a faster SSD will load a game faster over the coming years.

You are literally virtual signaling now for newer tech just for some future magical gains...that makes me speechless as well. Sure in a few years we may find ways to saturate the pcie 4 but for what programs? And going from spinny drives to SSD/NvME was a no brainier for consoles, whether it was nvme 3, 3.1 or 4. Below is a test video explaining what I mean. Instead of providing evidence you just want to argue. We pretty much reached the placebo effect for the average user when we saturated Sata 6GB. People need to stop thinking a higher number is magically better without specific use cases like large databases or video/number crunching. I say the lower price differnence today is still worth going to "older tech" that was top tier just a year ago lol.

 

[Spudnation]

Price plummet equals a 10% reduction...? C'mon Techspot this title is just a tad misleading.

 

[neeyik]

Price plummet equals a 10% reduction...? C'mon Techspot this title is just a tad misleading.

The title doesn't say that at all. It says that RAM and SSD prices are to fall, because of oversupply and under-demand. DRAM/NAND flash average selling prices are expected to drop in the next quarter and continue to drop, because of this.

The 10% figure is estimated by TrendForce:

Press Center - NAND Flash Market Weakens Rapidly in 3Q20 with Widening Decline in Wafer Prices, Says TrendForce | TrendForce - Market research, price trend of DRAM, NAND Flash, LEDs, TFT-LCD and green energy, PV

After spot prices have been falling for some time, the NAND Flash market is formally seeing a general decline in contract prices starting from 3Q20, according to TrendForce’s latest investigations. Looking at the extent of the price decline by product type, SSDs have experienced a relatively...

www.trendforce.com

TrendForce believes that, despite the traditional peak season for electronics sales and the release of Apple’s new iPhones in 3Q20, the quarterly decline in NAND Flash ASP will likely reach 10%, due to the client end’s excess inventory under the impact of the pandemic. Furthermore, as suppliers continue making improvements in the yield rate of 128L NAND Flash, the oversupply in the NAND Flash market will intensify in 4Q20, further exacerbating the decline in NAND Flash ASP.

This decrease in ASP will be passed on to consumers, and possibly even more than 10%, to aid the selling of excess stock. If there was high demand, then they wouldn't.

 

[Burty117]

I say the lower price differnence today is still worth going to "older tech" that was top tier just a year ago lol.

So you'd save that $5 because you might not use the extra performance even though you've spent all that money on a new B550/X570 platform.

And don't respond it's $75 as that's for much slower drives that don't even compare to a decent PCI-E 3.0 NVME drive let alone a PCI-E 4.0 drive.

I'll ask you this though, what drive do you personally use in your PC? Is it an NVME SSD or a Sata SSD?

 

[Squid Surprise]

Am I the only one that wouldn't classify a 10% drop as a plummet?

Apparently you didn’t read my post earlier in the thread ?

 

[Squid Surprise]

The title doesn't say that at all. It says that RAM and SSD prices are to fall, because of oversupply and under-demand. DRAM/NAND flash average selling prices are expected to drop in the next quarter and continue to drop, because of this.

Yes it did... here’s the title:
RAM and SSD prices will soon plummet due to oversupply and weak demand

The word “plummet“ is what I (and a few other posters) take issue with...

 

[neeyik]

The word “plummet“ is what I (and a few other posters) take issue with...

Fair enough, although I would point out that there’s more than just the 10% ASP drop that’s behind the expected fall in prices. In some countries, DRAM and SSD prices have decreased by 30% in the past quarter alone.

 

[fps4ever]

So you'd save that $5 because you might not use the extra performance even though you've spent all that money on a new B550/X570 platform.

And don't respond it's $75 as that's for much slower drives that don't even compare to a decent PCI-E 3.0 NVME drive let alone a PCI-E 4.0 drive.

I'll ask you this though, what drive do you personally use in your PC? Is it an NVME SSD or a Sata SSD?

Much slower drives that don't compare for what?....you offer nothing to back up your claims unless its ssd benchmarks. And no decent 3.0 Nvme drives for that much less is just disengenious and quite frankly obtuse. I think were done here.

 

[MaxSmarties]

Mmmh... I'm considering to add another M2. NVMe 1 Tb PCIE 4.0 SSD to my existing M.2 NVMe 512 Gb PCIE 3.0 model, having two slots on my motherboard, but I'm not sure if the difference will be noticeable in real time usage.

 

[Burty117]

Much slower drives that don't compare for what?....you offer nothing to back up your claims unless its ssd benchmarks. And no decent 3.0 Nvme drives for that much less is just disengenious and quite frankly obtuse. I think were done here.

Fair, I cba to argue five dollars. You still didn't answer my question though, do you have a NVME drive in your pc or a Sata SSD as your boot drive?

 

[Mule Rider]

10% decrease. WoopDiDoooDaaDay.

Do you really think I'd hold off purchasing a $100-200 computer component, just because I can't afford that extra 10%?

How bizarre.
Wake me up when it's minimum 20% discount.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

I see memory prices dropping already. the SSDs...not as much really. The thing about SSDs is, yes, the prices appear to be dropping but it's an illusion because they've been in the overpriced territory for awhile now. I remember when I could have bought a 1TB SSD for $85 on sale about a year ago. So, that's my benchmark for executing a purchase. I won't pay more than $85 for a 1TB SSD. That's when they will be historically low.

I wonder how low memory kits will go. They are at historically low prices already, unlike SSDs (SATA anyways) which are not.

 

[tokyojerry]

Good time for a new build then. DDR5 and the supporting platforms are still going to be at least a year away at Christmas. So I'll be picking up some fast DDR4 and a PCIEe 4.0 SSD.

The Sabrent Rocket 4 models are attractive. If they can drop down closer to $1.50 a gigabyte then I'll be all over one. They are currently about $2 a gigabyte last time I looked.

I really want a 2TB drive. Game sizes are getting out of control really. Perhaps it would make more sense to have a 1TB boot drive and then a cheaper PCIe 3.0 model if prices continue to drop. Adata XPG 8200 Pro can be had at great prices right now, hopefully even better in three months or so.

I am not a gamer but I currently use 1TB as default for my OS boot volume and the second M.2 bay is 2TB for data and working with video NLE.