Rare earth metal prices explode, may lead to increased prices for electronics

[gamerk2]

The more people able to produce items, lowers costs of said items.

Companies do not lower prices just because they can "afford" to, they only do so in response to market pressure. This is also why lowering corporate taxes *never* results in price drops or wage increases, but instead just leads to larger corporate profits and executive compensation.

In theory, overproduction could lead to oversupply, which would in fact lower prices. But corporations are smart, and generally know not to produce more than they can sell. Nevermind retailers understand not to stock more than they can sell off their shelves, for much the same reasons.

Supply side economics relies on businesses to not be ruthlessly capitalistic, hence why it *never* works. The only thing it's accomplished is raising stock prices (though enhanced corporate profits) and drastically raising the wealth gap.

 

[wiyosaya]

If the Soviets couldn't control that crew, it was sheer ego and arrogance to think that we could.

Its not only the Soviets that could not do it, it was the British, too. https://www.thoughtco.com/britains-disastrous-retreat-from-kabul-1773762
But, for some reason "W" thought that he could just keep doing the same thing over and over again and get different results.

Its about time we got the hell out of there. There's many out there that think the Taliban, itself, will not last long due to similar reasons that other entities have been unable to control Afghanistan https://www.republicworld.com/world...-amrullah-saleh-predicts-military-crisis.html

Taliban Rule Would Not Last Long In Afghanistan: Acting President - The Florida Star | The Georgia Star

KABUL — Amrullah Saleh, the first Vice President of the former Afghan government and the self-proclaimed acting President, believes that the rule of the Taliban government will not last long in the country. Taliban entered the presidential palace in Kabul and overthrew the democratically elected...

www.thefloridastar.com

Ismail Khan: Taliban rule will not last, Panjshir resistance is expanding

Daily Updated News On Afghanistan - Taliban News, Afghan Women News, Afghan Sports News, Afghan refugee news, etc.

www.aopnews.com

IMO, we have more to do in this country to keep Mullah McConnell and the Talicans from turning the US into a caliphate or other religiously ruled nation.

 

[mailpup]

Back on topic please. Thank you.

 

[VaRmeNsI]

Companies do not lower prices just because they can "afford" to, they only do so in response to market pressure. This is also why lowering corporate taxes *never* results in price drops or wage increases, but instead just leads to larger corporate profits and executive compensation.

In theory, overproduction could lead to oversupply, which would in fact lower prices. But corporations are smart, and generally know not to produce more than they can sell. Nevermind retailers understand not to stock more than they can sell off their shelves, for much the same reasons.

Supply side economics relies on businesses to not be ruthlessly capitalistic, hence why it *never* works. The only thing it's accomplished is raising stock prices (though enhanced corporate profits) and drastically raising the wealth gap.

Lower operating costs does not result in the money going into a blackhole, it will end up benefiting someone.

 

[gamerk2]

Lower operating costs does not result in the money going into a blackhole, it will end up benefiting someone.

*Something*, in this case, the Corporation (higher profits) and the Executives (higher compensation, often tied to stock price). And I guess holders of the stock to an extent (via high stock prices through higher profits).

But I can assure you, lower costs will not lead to either higher wages or cheaper goods. We've seen that not happen over and over again.

And this highlights the entire fallacy of "Supply Side Economics", and explains why the wealth gap in America has exploded over the last 40 years.

 

[VaRmeNsI]

*Something*, in this case, the Corporation (higher profits) and the Executives (higher compensation, often tied to stock price). And I guess holders of the stock to an extent (via high stock prices through higher profits).

But I can assure you, lower costs will not lead to either higher wages or cheaper goods. We've seen that not happen over and over again.

And this highlights the entire fallacy of "Supply Side Economics", and explains why the wealth gap in America has exploded over the last 40 years.

Consumers/workers can buy stocks if they want to take full advantage of the savings.

I would only expect a fall in cost to delay price rises due to the inflationary nature of the monetary system.

 

[wiyosaya]

Consumers/workers can buy stocks if they want to take full advantage of the savings.

I would only expect a fall in cost to delay price rises due to the inflationary nature of the monetary system.

Stocks are not necessarily an appropriate investment for everyone - especially those in the lower income brackets who may be having trouble making enough to feed and/or house themselves.

Consumers taking advantage of lower costs would assume that those lower costs would be passed along to the consumer. There is no guarantee that will happen especially when companies are more concerned about making a profit for themselves and for shareholders.

 

[GLenn63]

I bought a polk psw1118'' subwoofer two months ago for $250, which at one time could be had for $200. I seen it on amazon yesterday going for $350. All in a two month span. I woudn't even bring this up if it were an isolated incident. In fact everything I go to buy now is up by at least 10% more. I ordered a Topping dac d10 for $110 that was at one time as low as $89 and it's only going to get a lot worst.

 

[captaincranky]

@Glenn Haggerty I could do a few pages on this with you, but ATM, I'm simply too burned out.

I will say, (as you've just found out), if you (royal you), didn't pull the trigger on something they wanted that was on sale, before sometime in August, you're screwed

. I will recount this one tale. I wanted the new Berhinger UMC404HD recording interface, (for god knows what reason), for quite a while. Sweetwater was the only dealer that had them in stock @$149.00. Amazon and others said coming soon, and Musician's Friend listed the piece at $178.00. I waited, and waited, and waited, and finally waited to long, (Verily until August). so they jacked the price up to $169. and M'sF & Amazon followed suit, but still didn't have them. Sweetwater's sales force is quite aggressive, calling emailing and whatnot. So, I called my "sales engineer" over Labor Day weekend, and asked if he was in the mood to haggle a bit.

OK, since Sweetwater is the only dealer with it in stock, it had to have been bought at the old dealer cost, since everybody else is suffering from supply chain issues . So that means, they have to be taking the windfall profit on the new retail book price,against stock bought at the old dealer cost. I managed to talk him into eating the PA state tax, so not too much harm done by my procrastination.

But you can bet your (possibly last) bottom dollar, that everybody else is tagging old stock, at the new book price as well.

 

[GLenn63]

@Glenn Haggerty I could do a few pages on this with you, but ATM, I'm simply too burned out.

I will say, (as you've just found out), if you (royal you), didn't pull the trigger on something they wanted that was on sale, before sometime in August, you're screwed

. I will recount this one tale. I wanted the new Berhinger UMC404HD recording interface, (for god knows what reason), for quite a while. Sweetwater was the only dealer that had them in stock @$149.00. Amazon and others said coming soon, and Musician's Friend listed the piece at $178.00. I waited, and waited, and waited, and finally waited to long, (Verily until August). so they jacked the price up to $169. and M'sF & Amazon followed suit, but still didn't have them. Sweetwater's sales force is quite aggressive, calling emailing and whatnot. So, I called my "sales engineer" over Labor Day weekend, and asked if he was in the mood to haggle a bit.

OK, since Sweetwater is the only dealer with it in stock, it had to have been bought at the old dealer cost, since everybody else is suffering from supply chain issues . So that means, they have to be taking the windfall profit on the new retail book price,against stock bought at the old dealer cost. I managed to talk him into eating the PA state tax, so not too much harm done by my procrastination.

But you can bet your (possibly last) bottom dollar, that everybody else is tagging old stock, at the new book price as well.

I have heard about the same thing with gas stations, when prices are trending upward they charge the increase price for the gas they already bought at a lower price. It's looking like a pretty bleak future ahead.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

I have heard about the same thing with gas stations, when prices are trending upward they charge the increase price for the gas they already bought at a lower price. It's looking like a pretty bleak future ahead.

It's always been like that.

News of a shut down of a refinery (for whatever reason)....even though gas itself that a station has already purchased for a pre-refinery shutdown cost, those prices instantly jump.

Take the oil refinery explosion in Superior, WI 3 years ago, as soon as news hit that the explosion happened gas jumped $.50.

Or other things, such as political swings can even cause prices to jump. Look at the gas prices soon after Trump was out and Biden came in. I'm not saying it was strictly due to Biden, but when gas prices had been hovering around $2 for a year, it sucked when December 2020 rolled around and the price had jumped $0.25 and has been on a slow climb ever since...now around $3.10 a gallon in my area.

 

[GLenn63]

It's always been like that.

News of a shut down of a refinery (for whatever reason)....even though gas itself that a station has already purchased for a pre-refinery shutdown cost, those prices instantly jump.

Take the oil refinery explosion in Superior, WI 3 years ago, as soon as news hit that the explosion happened gas jumped $.50.

Or other things, such as political swings can even cause prices to jump. Look at the gas prices soon after Trump was out and Biden came in. I'm not saying it was strictly due to Biden, but when gas prices had been hovering around $2 for a year, it sucked when December 2020 rolled around and the price had jumped $0.25 and has been on a slow climb ever since...now around $3.10 a gallon in my area.

I was lucky enough that I had some extra cash on hand and have already paid my heating bill locking on to the price as of 6/1/21. I was expecting things to go down hill after the elections but I'm stunned at how fast it's happening. We are in such a tailspin I don't think we will recover for a long long time. Common sense has been totally abandoned. I never thought I'd say this but crypto currency might be a good investment with our money being devalued so quickly

 

[captaincranky]

News of a shut down of a refinery (for whatever reason)....even though gas itself that a station has already purchased for a pre-refinery shutdown cost, those prices instantly jump.

To my knowledge, it's been going on for at least four decades, (last and only time I was in sales), across all forms and categories of products, but particularly in so called, "durable goods"..

Anytime a dealer cost hike occurs, all existing inventory is cataloged at the new cost.. I sold audio equipment, and half the time you weren't even sure the dealer cost you were working off wasn't inflated to cut into your commission earnings.

The abuse with gasoline prices is more out in the open, and there's a lot of histrionics involved via the commodities market, based on the current per barrel of crude oil.

Customer panic and hysteria always brings out the dark side of seller's nature, and you get price gouging. Since these rushes are usually quite fleeting, there's no time for law enforcement to catch up with the perpetrators, and the prices have subsided.. The only thing you can do to avoid being di*ked around, is to find a little less greedy dealer someplace else..

But it's a given, that if the supply chain is interrupted, the dealers are gouging off gas that they bought anywhere from yesterday to a month ago. (Time frame is guesswork on my part), but it doesn't negate the truth of the situation...

The too, there's always, "summer mixes are always more expensive than winter blends", which always surfaces just when people are more likely to be driving for vacation travel.. I'm not a conspiracy theorist per se, but I suspect that in cold weather, too little octane concentrate is less likely to cause detonation, than in the heat of summer. My bike runs on regular (86 octane) pump gas, but when the weather is hot, I sometimes move up to mid grade gas. A "better safe than sorry" maneuver on my part

 

[captaincranky]

I was lucky enough that I had some extra cash on hand and have already paid my heating bill locking on to the price as of 6/1/21. I was expecting things to go down hill after the elections but I'm stunned at how fast it's happening. We are in such a tailspin I don't think we will recover for a long long time. Common sense has been totally abandoned. I never thought I'd say this but crypto currency might be a good investment with our money being devalued so quickly

Here's the thing about crypto and the reality of "fiat" money..

At one time the US was compelled to have enough gold and silveer reserves, to enable anyone to walk into a bank, and exchange paper money for gold or silver. At some point, it became impractical to have that much recerve on hand, Fort Know simply wouldn't hold it all. Enter fiat money.

However, Fort Knox isn't exactly empty either, only the right to exchange has bee taken.away Crypto is only numbers on some hard drive god knows where, and the only actual value it has, is all that lousy, "fiat money", being pumped into the system.

And I hate to say it like this but, "these kidz today have completely missed that aspect of our financial system". Crypto fanatics are completely oblivious to the basics of any monetary system.

Crypto (IMHO obviously), is nothing more than a computer game of "banking simulator".. (I just can't wait to hear the sh!t I'll likely get back form the post).

"The US dollar is in trouble, it's going to fail, blah, blah, blah, blah" And all this sh!t in defense on a "monetary system", that all Elon Musk has to do is run his mouth about, to drive the price up or down maybe 20 points.

 

[EdmondRC]

You are making some implicit assumptions here, mainly that the presence of immigrants (legal or otherwise) implies voter fraud. But there's also the implicit assumption that the only way to secure elections is via voter identification.

Secondly, any voter id requirement that has the effect of preventing (or at least placing an unreasonable burden) on a legalized citizen's right to vote is outright unconstitutional, regardless of any supposed benefits to preventing voter fraud.

I'm not making any implicit assumptions, what I am stating is actually very explicit. That we have enough immigrants in our country that even if a small percentage of them were to vote (because we don't ensure that voters are US citizens) that it could sway the election.

Let's talk about "undue burden" for a minute. A birth certificate and a SSN are given to just about every natural born citizen. Also to become a citizen you also must prove your identity and have identity documents. Everyone should have some type of identifying paper work. It's not an undue burden, in fact, having identifying documents in our society is required everywhere. The poorest among us actually need to have them even more than the wealthy because any societal benefits rely on them. From my perspective, to even question ID's for voting raises red flags. There is no way that its a widespread problem. It's also not just to make sure immigrants are not voting, its also to make sure that a person only cast one vote. It's also to make sure a person is voting in a district they are allowed to vote in. Voter ID is not an undue burden and its absolutely necessary to ensure fair elections.

 

[gamerk2]

I'm not making any implicit assumptions, what I am stating is actually very explicit. That we have enough immigrants in our country that even if a small percentage of them were to vote (because we don't ensure that voters are US citizens) that it could sway the election.

*sigh*

You do know states maintain voter lists, correct? You don't just show up and cast a vote. That's why there hasn't been a single instance of an election that has been swayed by illegal voting in modern times.

You are implicitly implying that these groups will vote (illegally) if given the opportunity, despite the existing protections on voting, and the penalties involved.

This has *never* been about "protecting the right to vote"; internal GOP communications show as much. It's all about doing everything possible to disenfranchise Democrat leaning groups to give themselves an advantage at the polls.

Let's talk about "undue burden" for a minute. A birth certificate and a SSN are given to just about every natural born citizen. Also to become a citizen you also must prove your identity and have identity documents. Everyone should have some type of identifying paper work. It's not an undue burden, in fact, having identifying documents in our society is required everywhere. The poorest among us actually need to have them even more than the wealthy because any societal benefits rely on them. From my perspective, to even question ID's for voting raises red flags. There is no way that its a widespread problem. It's also not just to make sure immigrants are not voting, its also to make sure that a person only cast one vote. It's also to make sure a person is voting in a district they are allowed to vote in. Voter ID is not an undue burden and its absolutely necessary to ensure fair elections.

Don't fall for the propaganda here; if this was true, the states pushing for identification would accept a SS card as proof of identity; they don't. Why? Because they want "photo" identification, which immediately disqualifies most Federally provided (free) forms of identification. All you need to do is look at which identification states will accept, and you'll understand how the GOP is carefully crafting their voter ID laws to try and disqualify the poor from voting.

Secondly, the right to vote is enshrined in the Constitution, and may not be infringed in any way. Funny how some Constitutional rights seems to be held on a higher pedestal than others by todays GOP.

Thirdly, states maintain voter lists which prevents most cases of fraud. Speaking about my state (NY), you just need to provide a name/address and sign in. That's more than enough to discourage fraud, as you'd need to have *multiple* fake identities, forge *multiple* signatures, and the fraud would get detected the instant someone on the voter rolls you took the identity of checked in, which would immediately flag the ballot for future investigation by the necessary authorities.

Also, the irony of conservatives wanting everyone to carry proof of identity seems to be lost on the modern GOP.

 

[cliffordcooley]

*sigh*

You do know states maintain voter lists, correct? You don't just show up and cast a vote. That's why there hasn't been a single instance of an election that has been swayed by illegal voting in modern times.

You are implicitly implying that these groups will vote (illegally) if given the opportunity, despite the existing protections on voting, and the penalties involved.

This has *never* been about "protecting the right to vote"; internal GOP communications show as much. It's all about doing everything possible to disenfranchise Democrat leaning groups to give themselves an advantage at the polls.

Don't fall for the propaganda here; if this was true, the states pushing for identification would accept a SS card as proof of identity; they don't. Why? Because they want "photo" identification, which immediately disqualifies most Federally provided (free) forms of identification. All you need to do is look at which identification states will accept, and you'll understand how the GOP is carefully crafting their voter ID laws to try and disqualify the poor from voting.

Secondly, the right to vote is enshrined in the Constitution, and may not be infringed in any way. Funny how some Constitutional rights seems to be held on a higher pedestal than others by todays GOP.

Thirdly, states maintain voter lists which prevents most cases of fraud. Speaking about my state (NY), you just need to provide a name/address and sign in. That's more than enough to discourage fraud, as you'd need to have *multiple* fake identities, forge *multiple* signatures, and the fraud would get detected the instant someone on the voter rolls you took the identity of checked in, which would immediately flag the ballot for future investigation by the necessary authorities.

Also, the irony of conservatives wanting everyone to carry proof of identity seems to be lost on the modern GOP.

*sigh*

Why is it you care nothing for voter verification? Anyone that can't afford an ID has bigger problems than voting for a political candidate. This is all just some big BS excuse to keep the doors open for allowing Voter Fraud. People from both parties have acknowledged fraud existence with every election. So saying fraud doesn't exist or carry any weight on an election is <insert your own negative word here>.

By the way, anyone that can't afford identification will not have an address either. Therefor they would not have any proof they are a residence of any state. Seriously what are they going to say? Oh my address in below the Brooklyn bridge or perhaps one of the downtown subways.

 

[GLenn63]

*sigh*

You do know states maintain voter lists, correct? You don't just show up and cast a vote. That's why there hasn't been a single instance of an election that has been swayed by illegal voting in modern times.

You are implicitly implying that these groups will vote (illegally) if given the opportunity, despite the existing protections on voting, and the penalties involved.

This has *never* been about "protecting the right to vote"; internal GOP communications show as much. It's all about doing everything possible to disenfranchise Democrat leaning groups to give themselves an advantage at the polls.

Don't fall for the propaganda here; if this was true, the states pushing for identification would accept a SS card as proof of identity; they don't. Why? Because they want "photo" identification, which immediately disqualifies most Federally provided (free) forms of identification. All you need to do is look at which identification states will accept, and you'll understand how the GOP is carefully crafting their voter ID laws to try and disqualify the poor from voting.

Secondly, the right to vote is enshrined in the Constitution, and may not be infringed in any way. Funny how some Constitutional rights seems to be held on a higher pedestal than others by todays GOP.

Thirdly, states maintain voter lists which prevents most cases of fraud. Speaking about my state (NY), you just need to provide a name/address and sign in. That's more than enough to discourage fraud, as you'd need to have *multiple* fake identities, forge *multiple* signatures, and the fraud would get detected the instant someone on the voter rolls you took the identity of checked in, which would immediately flag the ballot for future investigation by the necessary authorities.

Also, the irony of conservatives wanting everyone to carry proof of identity seems to be lost on the modern GOP.

You haven't addressed how the mail in ballots make it so easy to cheat, especially when bags of votes pop up in the middle of the that seem to favor the politician that's in behind in the count. This isn't rocket science here, it's common sense. The GOP isn't crafting new laws, they are just trying to maintain the system that has always existed.

 

[GLenn63]

Here's the thing about crypto and the reality of "fiat" money..

At one time the US was compelled to have enough gold and silveer reserves, to enable anyone to walk into a bank, and exchange paper money for gold or silver. At some point, it became impractical to have that much recerve on hand, Fort Know simply wouldn't hold it all. Enter fiat money.

However, Fort Knox isn't exactly empty either, only the right to exchange has bee taken.away Crypto is only numbers on some hard drive god knows where, and the only actual value it has, is all that lousy, "fiat money", being pumped into the system.

And I hate to say it like this but, "these kidz today have completely missed that aspect of our financial system". Crypto fanatics are completely oblivious to the basics of any monetary system.

Crypto (IMHO obviously), is nothing more than a computer game of "banking simulator".. (I just can't wait to hear the sh!t I'll likely get back form the post).

"The US dollar is in trouble, it's going to fail, blah, blah, blah, blah" And all this sh!t in defense on a "monetary system", that all Elon Musk has to do is run his mouth about, to drive the price up or down maybe 20 points.

It was during the Nixon administration that we went from the gold standard to gross nation product. What really has me wary with the current inflationary period were in is that we have multiple crisis going on at the same time, and they all seem to be self inflicted. I think (and hope I'm wrong) that we are heading for a perfect storm.

 

[captaincranky]

You haven't addressed how the mail in ballots make it so easy to cheat, especially when bags of votes pop up in the middle of the that seem to favor the politician that's in behind in the count. This isn't rocket science here, it's common sense. The GOP isn't crafting new laws, they are just trying to maintain the system that has always existed.

Well, Trump didn't technically win his first term. Hillary Clinton won more of the p[opular vote, but Trump won the "battleground states", and hence ascended to power. He is infatuated with Vladimir Putin, and IME the way Putin manages to get himself, "reelected", is buried in his psyche.

Mitch McConnell wouldn't have a job, if Kentucky didn't have an educational system ranked somewhere uder 40th in the US.

Ron DiSantis a fellow imbecile, that somehow has propped up his position in the Republican party, by killing off his own voting block, in the name of "freedom".

The governor of Texas, who just passed the most bizarre abortion bill n the country, is now whimpering for Biden to daclare a federal emergency at the border.

While I am to the right of center in my personal political, none of the sh!t the Republican party is doing these days, makes any sense whatsoever..

Califirnia's recall laws are lax to the extreme, and personally I think Newsome is doing a decent job. As for these people b!tching about his lock downs, I'm sure many of them don't want to wear macks or get vaccinated, yet still expect the healthcare system to piss away a million or so dollars to have doctors and nurses sit around and watch them die anyway..

The US public, (IMHO) is too inbred, ill educated, and decadent to survive too much longer.

If you want a true slap in the face to wake you up, ,the company that made batting helmets for MLB, (now controlled by a private equity firm), is moving its production to China. Had Trump still been in office, he probably would have given them a tax cut for doing so, as long as they stayed at his hotels, and played on his golf courses..

Going back to 2016, yeah, the liberals moaned up a storm about getting rid of the electoral college, but it wasn't anything like the bullsh!t going on now.. At least Clinton had the courtesy to concede gracefully, not and blow up all the crap Trump, a common criminal, has done this time around. As soon as the Republicans wash their hands of that turd, the sooner they'll get some respect back.-

If you want the bare facts, the white population in the US has been at zero growth for a few years now. OK, that's lovely, you have one boy and one girl per household. And the minority population is simply going to breed you out of power, period.

So here's the thing, Republicans pandering to evangelicals and "right to life" fanatics, is only su cceding in accomplishing one thing, bringing more future Democratic voters into the population. You might say, "you're cutting off your own nose to spite your face".

So, y'all oughta quit complaining and passing voter suppression laws, and head on back to the bedroom.

In the meantime for co-ops for for property purchase, instead of allowing modern day land barons stick you with housing prices nobody can pay, and companies that simply won't either peddle American made goods, or share the profits with you when they don't.

I mean, Jeff Bezos just went, "to space", in a rocket shaped like a phallus. How much more proof do you need it's not the Democrats sticking it to you, it'ss you own people.

 

[captaincranky]

It was during the Nixon administration that we went from the gold standard to gross nation product. What really has me wary with the current inflationary period were in is that we have multiple crisis going on at the same time, and they all seem to be self inflicted. I think (and hope I'm wrong) that we are heading for a perfect storm.

1963 was, IIRC, the last "silver certificates" ever printed. So, fita money had been in the wind for some time.

But as you say, the right of gold exchange was remove, and changed to the GDP.

Somebody still has yet to offer me an explanation as to what security or potential value strings of numbers on a hard drive have. Call me old fashioned, but crypto is play money carried to the extreme..

There are a couple of reasons casinos use chips instead of money. The obvious is that someone can't pocket your cash and walk away. But secondary to that, is the face that chips abstract real money, so you're really not aware how much actual money you're loosing.

 

[GLenn63]

Well, Trump didn't technically win his first term. Hillary Clinton won more of the p[opular vote, but Trump won the "battleground states", and hence ascended to power. He is infatuated with Vladimir Putin, and IME the way Putin manages to get himself, "reelected", is buried in his psyche.

Mitch McConnell wouldn't have a job, if Kentucky didn't have an educational system ranked somewhere uder 40th in the US.

Ron DiSantis a fellow imbecile, that somehow has propped up his position in the Republican party, by killing off his own voting block, in the name of "freedom".

The governor of Texas, who just passed the most bizarre abortion bill n the country, is now whimpering for Biden to daclare a federal emergency at the border.

While I am to the right of center in my personal political, none of the sh!t the Republican party is doing these days, makes any sense whatsoever..

Califirnia's recall laws are lax to the extreme, and personally I think Newsome is doing a decent job. As for these people b!tching about his lock downs, I'm sure many of them don't want to wear macks or get vaccinated, yet still expect the healthcare system to piss away a million or so dollars to have doctors and nurses sit around and watch them die anyway..

The UP public, (IMHO) is too inbred, ill educated, and decadent to survive too much longer.

If you want a true slap in the face to wake you up, ,the company that made batting helmets fo MLB, (now controlled by a private equity firm), is moving its production to China. Had Trump still been in office, he probably would have given them a tax cut for doing so, as long as they stayed at his hotels, and played on his golf courses..

Going back to 2016, yeah, the liberals moaned up a storm about getting rid of the electoral college, but it wasn't anything like the bullsh!t going on now.. At least Clinton had the courtesy to concede gracefully, not and blow up all the crap Trump, a common criminal, has done this time around. As soon as the Republicans wash their hands of that turd, the sooner they'll get some respect back.-

If you want the bare facts, the white population in the US has been at zero growth for a few years now. OK, that's lovely, you have one boy and one girl per household. And the minority population is simply going to breed you out of power, period.

So, y'all oughta quit complaining and passing voter suppression laws, and head on back to the bedroom.

In the meantime for co-ops for for property purchase, instead of allowing modern day land barons stick you with housing prices nobody can pay, and companies that simply won't either peddle American made goods, or share the profits with you when they don't.

I mean, Jeff Bezos just went, "to space", in a rocket shaped like a phallus. How much more proof do you need it's not the Democrats sticking it to you, it'ss you own people.

Well anyway Captain, we are in deep $h!T. It's amazing the different way we see things, but one thing you said that has me scratching my head. You are right of center!! Which part?

 

[mailpup]

Enough off topic politics please. Thank you.

 

[GLenn63]

@Glenn Haggerty I could do a few pages on this with you, but ATM, I'm simply too burned out.

I will say, (as you've just found out), if you (royal you), didn't pull the trigger on something they wanted that was on sale, before sometime in August, you're screwed

. I will recount this one tale. I wanted the new Berhinger UMC404HD recording interface, (for god knows what reason), for quite a while. Sweetwater was the only dealer that had them in stock @$149.00. Amazon and others said coming soon, and Musician's Friend listed the piece at $178.00. I waited, and waited, and waited, and finally waited to long, (Verily until August). so they jacked the price up to $169. and M'sF & Amazon followed suit, but still didn't have them. Sweetwater's sales force is quite aggressive, calling emailing and whatnot. So, I called my "sales engineer" over Labor Day weekend, and asked if he was in the mood to haggle a bit.

OK, since Sweetwater is the only dealer with it in stock, it had to have been bought at the old dealer cost, since everybody else is suffering from supply chain issues . So that means, they have to be taking the windfall profit on the new retail book price,against stock bought at the old dealer cost. I managed to talk him into eating the PA state tax, so not too much harm done by my procrastination.

But you can bet your (possibly last) bottom dollar, that everybody else is tagging old stock, at the new book price as well.

Regarding the Berhinger UMC404HD, Are you a musician?

 

[captaincranky]

Regarding the Berhinger UMC404HD, Are you a musician?

I attempt to play music sometimes, does that count? Answer B, just barely. I bought a Boss looper too, which I'm unfortunately afraid to hook up.

I gave up hopes of being a "shredder", Mark Knopfler, or David Gilmour decades ago. I mostly screw aroun with 12 string acoustics. I have a piano in the living room, "Casio (digital) "grand"n I bought years ago, before I forgot how to play it), but haven't set it up yet.

A friend of mine, long dead, told me, "your house isn't a "home", but actually a museum. Another long dead friend tried to join the "Procrastinators Club", he said it took them 7 months to send him a notice they received his application. Maybe I should give them a shout out, sounds like it would be right up my alley.