What I care about is pollution. What are you doing about it besides posting? If the energy and money spent on the climate change hoax was invested in cleaning the Pacific of all the plastic it would be clean...today...now. What do I do about pollution....I pick up garbage that ain't mine and take it to the dump...or recycling center for the tight pants set. Climate change is baloney
https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/03/TAR-06.pdf
"Scientists attribute the global warming trend observed since the mid-20th century to the human expansion of the "greenhouse effect"1"
Is baloney based on what? The money spent where is the data? or maybe you think that the little world inside your head translate to reality. Science is not a religion where we have to give part of our salary to be part of this or believe without proper explanation, is like this anti-vax nonsense, people just try to justifiy their ways without proper thinking.
Which data? The data showing the lack of or the data showing it is?
Here is my counter to that, how much CO2 is emitted to the atmosphere, not from humans? Where would that be from and what part of it is the original data assuming from Humans? Also, plants intake CO2 and change it into O. What is the data showing where this is in the equation? Third, and most of all, where is the CO2 from decay and rot on land and in the oceans and lakes counted in this large increase of CO2 into the atmosphere? Not taking into account the actual human impact from WW1 and WW2 or the 30 years of nuclear testing done after WW2, you cannot prove without a shade of doubt that driving my damn car or burning fossil fuels is the culprit of higher CO2 levels!! It can be because of natural things in the climate that are NOT from humans!!1. No one said anything about Russia or Hilary. They mentioned bots, they did not link them specifically to Russia.
2. Climate change isn't a study of nature or weather. It is a study of the climate.
3. "Current data (from direct measurements of the atmosphere to historical records of industry) tells us that between 1751 and 1987 fossil fuels put about 737 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. Between just 1987 and 2014 it was about the same mass: 743 billion tons. Total CO2 from industrialized humans in the past 263 years: 1,480 billion tons."
"Dire warnings that we've crossed 400 parts-per-million of atmospheric CO2 "
The Crazy Scale of Human Carbon Emission
Want some perspective on how much carbon dioxide human activity produces? Here it isblogs.scientificamerican.com
You say there is no way humans are causing it yet there is factually more CO2 in the air we breathe. Pray tell, who is emitting that CO2? Humans you say? Guess what, CO2 is a greenhouse gas that traps in heat.
Well, let's see you back your words up and disprove the data.
Oh, there is again an assumption. There is no proof that this is true. It is complete assumption, the CO2 levels from 15 to 25 million years ago are assumed and then compared to today. There is new data that may show degradation of the CO2 and O2 levels found in the ice cores pulled from the arctic. There is a chance that the levels could be as much as 10-20% off in accuracy, unless you know someone who has verification from 20 million years ago of the true CO2 levels from then.
This is what I am talking about. It is simple in saying that there is nuances and the data may not be what they think it is.
www.astrobio.net
www.antarcticglaciers.org
I'm certainly happy we didn't end up with his opponent. **** would have been ten fold worse.
You are laboring under the delusion half the US doesn't respect him.
It may sound sappy but this is spot on. Forget the bickering over who started it and who caused it and who is to blame for what. Recognise that we only have 1 planet and our future generations are depending on the choices we make today. Break the cycle where profits > everything else. Do something good for the world and the people in it. If you cannot do that, then accept that we're all going to Hell and humanity is the cause.
/facepalm
"The most important property of ice cores is that they are a direct archive of past atmospheric gasses. Air is trapped at the base of the firn layer, and when the compacted snow turns to ice, the air is trapped in bubbles. This transition normally occurs 50-100 m below the surface[6]. The offset between the age of the air and the age of the ice is accounted for with well-understood models of firn densification and gas trapping. The air bubbles are extracted by melting, crushing or grating the ice in a vacuum.
This method provides detailed records of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide going back over 650,000 years[6]. Ice core records globally agree on these levels, and they match instrumented measurements from the 1950s onwards, confirming their reliability. Carbon dioxide measurements from older ice in Greenland is less reliable, as meltwater layers have elevated carbon dioxide (CO2 is highly soluble in water). Older records of carbon dioxide are therefore best taken from Antarctic ice cores."
Ice core basics
How can we use ice cores to understand past climate? What information can we get from ice cores?
FYI, we were not talking about temperature. We were talking about CO2 levels. The link you provided is off topic. Just a heads up though, greenland is the only location where Ice Cores may not be the best measure of past temperatures due to excessive ice melt. CO2 is measured completely differently and is not affected. That's also mentioned in the article I linked above. Once again though, not related to CO2.
Also, why did you make a 2nd post to quote yourself and agree with your own statement? Kind of creepy...
Ice core - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This is the ice core readings, it shows CO2 levels higher 300k years ago than now, how is that so? It seems if you are correct and I am wrong about the accuracy of the samples, then apparently before humans were driving cars and running power plants, the CO2 levels were too high.......maybe we are not the only cause for higher CO2? Also, after a time of elevated levels it shows a steep decline and then a cooling period, or is it a steep cooling period and then a lowering of CO2?
A difficulty in ice core dating is that gases can diffuse through firn, so the ice at a given depth may be substantially older than the gases trapped in it. As a result, there are two chronologies for a given ice core: one for the ice, and one for the trapped gases. To determine the relationship between the two, models have been developed for the depth at which gases are trapped for a given location, but their predictions have not always proved reliable.[39][40] At locations with very low snowfall, such as Vostok, the uncertainty in the difference between ages of ice and gas can be over 1,000 years.[41]
"The density and size of the bubbles trapped in ice provide an indication of crystal size at the time they formed. The size of a crystal is related to its growth rate, which in turn depends on the temperature, so the properties of the bubbles can be combined with information on accumulation rates and firn density to calculate the temperature when the firn formed.[42]"
"The World Health Organization estimates that 4.6 million people die each year from causes directly attributable to air pollution. Many of these mortalities are attributable to indoor air pollution. Worldwide more deaths per year are linked to air pollution than to automobile accidents."
Ice core - Wikipedia
This is the ice core readings, it shows CO2 levels higher 300k years ago than now, how is that so? It seems if you are correct and I am wrong about the accuracy of the samples, then apparently before humans were driving cars and running power plants, the CO2 levels were too high.......maybe we are not the only cause for higher CO2? Also, after a time of elevated levels it shows a steep decline and then a cooling period, or is it a steep cooling period and then a lowering of CO2?
e360.yale.edu
Been hearing this crap for 30 years, I will believe it when I actually see it. So, all the "data" and fear mongering from the "climate" cooks, can go and jump into the "too warm oceans". I am done with this, The earth temps and CO2 levels have always rose and fell by large margins for millions of years, I do believe humans have added to it, however; there is no proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is going to cause the end of mankind or earth as a whole. Anyone can put pay to have a study done proving the opposite of anything!! The proof I found on the CO2 levels was at NOAA site and a graph showing the ice core readings for the last 800k years.So how exactly does age accuracy translate to CO2 inaccuracy? Once again, you are trying to force one topic onto another.
"Last year will go down in history as the year when the planet’s atmosphere broke a startling record: 400 parts per million of carbon dioxide. The last time the planet’s air was so rich in CO2 was millions of years ago "
How the World Passed a Carbon Threshold and Why It Matters
Last year marked the first time in several million years that atmospheric concentrations of CO2 passed 400 parts per million. By looking at what Earth’s climate was like in previous eras of high CO2 levels, scientists are getting a sobering picture of where we are headed.
Don't know where your 300K number is from, but it's inaccurate.
"the world was a few degrees hotter back then, and melted ice put sea levels tens of meters higher. "
Hope you like beachfront property! (and of course the ensuing fight over resources as you cram billions of humans into 30% less space.)
I should also point out that even a small increase like that will kill off many organisms, which will have a corresponding reaction further up the food chain. That's aside for the impact the loss of land mass will have on many ecosystems. We are already seeing barrier reefs and algie species in trouble and other member of the ecosystem (and by extension humans) rely on them in one way or another.
That is a false video, the actual numbers of deaths from "pollution" is lower, and the majority are from indoor and not outdoor!!
Also, you know its false when the video says 7 million and the numbers add up to 8 million, they can't even lie correctly!
