RTX 4000 rumors: September release, over 800W TDP

eforce

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Did you just not get the memo? And, out of mild curiosity, what aspect of climate change do you not believe? 97% of climate scientists say climate change is real. Do you know something the rest of the world doesn't? The years 2016 - 2021 were each the hottest on record.

Once upon a time the majority thought the world was flat, in the modern world scientists can easily be bought and paid for by the use of funding.
 

pcnthuziast

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Regardless the cause, show me the evidence that the proposed changes can have a meaningful affect to reverse, slow or even just arrest the progression of climate change.
 

Reallyhow

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Once upon a time the majority thought the world was flat, in the modern world scientists can easily be bought and paid for by the use of funding.
I somehow doubt that 97% of scientists, literally millions of them, are being bought. It seems implausable to have over 88,000 fake studies.

Perhaps the individuals who are professionally educated and have passionately studied this matter for their entire careers are more fit to render judgement on whether it is real, than you are?
 

eforce

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I somehow doubt that 97% of scientists, literally millions of them, are being bought. It seems implausable to have over 88,000 fake studies.

Perhaps the individuals who are professionally educated and have passionately studied this matter for their entire careers are more fit to render judgement on whether it is real, than you are?
Studies cost money which requires funding, as long as science is subject to monetary influences it cannot be trusted, the plandemic showed that to be clear as day.
 

FaTaL

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This is getting ridiculous, burning that much energy just for a game. What a waste. I feel like regulations should be used to impose a limit on consumer GPUs max TDP.

But I guess that is anathema to a lot of people, as freedom is the most important to them. Taking care of the future we have to share not so much, somehow.

No. Wrong. Majority of that energy is towards mining cryptocurrency. And energy consumption isnt the problem. Its the resources used to generate said energy. Maybe you can mainstream society to conform to something other than fossil fuel. GL
 

umbala

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You need to understand that not everyone believes in climate change and in order to have a peaceful world one must not force their beliefs on others.
It's funny how the people always harping on about someone forcing their beliefs on them are the ones who either believe something ridiculous (like conspiracy theories) or don't believe in something obvious (like climate change). To those people the most important thing will always be being able to believe in whatever fantasy nonsense they want without anyone criticising them or raising any questions. If I believe the earth is flat, climate change is a hoax, and a magical man in the sky is watching and judging everything we do, and if anyone dares to say otherwise then they're trampling on my freedoms!
 

StrikerRocket

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800 W for just one video card? Well, it might just be the end of the road for me.
This hobby is just going head over heels now. The 3070 Ti I bought yesterday is then likely to be the last.
 

eforce

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It's funny how the people always harping on about someone forcing their beliefs on them are the ones who either believe something ridiculous (like conspiracy theories) or don't believe in something obvious (like climate change). To those people the most important thing will always be being able to believe in whatever fantasy nonsense they want without anyone criticising them or raising any questions. If I believe the earth is flat, climate change is a hoax, and a magical man in the sky is watching and judging everything we do, and if anyone dares to say otherwise then they're trampling on my freedoms!
It's not the saying otherwise, it's the attempt to try and turn my living standards back to the cave man era I take issue with.
 

Eldritch

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This is getting ridiculous, burning that much energy just for a game. What a waste. I feel like regulations should be used to impose a limit on consumer GPUs max TDP.

But I guess that is anathema to a lot of people, as freedom is the most important to them. Taking care of the future we have to share not so much, somehow.

Think of electricity bill as the fine. And there you have it!
 

PEnnn

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Once upon a time the majority thought the world was flat, in the modern world scientists can easily be bought and paid for by the use of funding.

Absolutely!!

We should ignore the overwhelming majority of scientists and instead believe Big Oil lawyers and their shills about the "facts" of climate change.
 

zamroni111

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This is getting ridiculous, burning that much energy just for a game. What a waste. I feel like regulations should be used to impose a limit on consumer GPUs max TDP.

But I guess that is anathema to a lot of people, as freedom is the most important to them. Taking care of the future we have to share not so much, somehow.
Indeed. Kind of soda tax
 

Shadowboxer

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Yeah I dont believe there will be an 800watt card. That would it on par with actual heaters. You would need dozens of fans to cool it. It just sounds like a way to get peoples attention. And it worked. Dam you!
 

Gastec

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Some years ago I was ranting about how the next generations of consumer graphical cards and CPU's are trying really hard to reach that 1 kWh consumption but I didn't really want to be right.
 

Alfatawi Mendel

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800w GPUs sound mighty sus. the 3090 already had reported instability issues with its 450 watt parts and the 3090ti is rumored to be delayed for the same reason.

800w? How would you even cool that much power draw?

You can mask it as "muh freedumbs" but there is a simple fact here: People, in general, do not like it when the government nudges into their lives and says you cannot enjoy your entertainment.

Regulating TDP for GPUs is one hell of a slippery slope. Why not regulate how many hours you can play, like china? How much you can buy per month? Do your video game quotas have enough government support in them?

If you are concerned about "muh power use" a 800w GPU is nothing compared to the terrawatts of energy wasted cooling silly looking buildings with giant glass pavilions and charging electric cars, if your care is pollution GPUs are nothing compared to the bunker oil burning shipping vessels carrying your chinese sweatshop good across the pacific daily. If you're concerned with resource usage, tell people in second and third world countries to stop popping out babies like they're pokemon cards.

If you dont want a big GPU, dont buy one. We dont need the nanny state telling us what we can and cant enjoy, it will INEVITABLY be abused.
Power has to come from somewhere....And going by events over the last few decades...It eventually consists of invading and mass killing for that country's resources. So yes...There are consequences to burning insane amounts of power. - Be it electrical or gasoline.
 

yRaz

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That said, GPUs are a tiny fraction of a contributor unless you're cryptomining. Personally I don't see the need to run a GPU way outside of it's efficiency zone to get 4K120 at Ultra.

But that's just me. You all spend your money on this expensive stuff so I don't have to keep the economy going. That's your job.
In the US, a single device is only allowed to draw 1500 watts from the wall and a single graphics card is drawing over half of that.
 

Lew Zealand

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In the US, a single device is only allowed to draw 1500 watts from the wall and a single graphics card is drawing over half of that.

I agree that it's effing insane for a GPU to do this when I've never owned a Stereo/HiFi drawing more than 400W total from the wall. I'm very much enjoying my 6600XT which I undervolt a bit and consumes all of 100W max in almost all my games.
 

yRaz

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I agree that it's effing insane for a GPU to do this when I've never owned a Stereo/HiFi drawing more than 400W total from the wall. I'm very much enjoying my 6600XT which I undervolt a bit and consumes all of 100W max in almost all my games.
People really aren't even thinking of it from a practical point of view. I know in my house some of the rooms are on the same breaker because, surprise, 2200watts is A LOT OF POWER. I have 1700SQ/FT and my HVAC system peaks at 1850watts, that's heating, cooling and fans. I can keep my house aa 70F year round with that. Putting an 800w VIDEO CARD in one room would create stupid amounts of heat not to mention put strain on the breaker if it's sharing one of the rooms. People usually only have 100A service coming to their house. Between a PC and monitor people could be pushing around 2000Ws(≤20amps) with these cards. Imagine a single computer taking up 20% of an entire buildings electrical service.

Taking out the environmental aspect and the cost of electricity, GPUs that soak up that much power are impractical, inconvenient and, frankly, silly. I'm not exaggerating when I say that it's getting to the point where some people will need another electrical line run to their room just to power their PC. Maybe with USB-C people can have their PCs in the garage with cables running to their rooms or something, but I certainly don't want that to become the norm.
 

Gerald L

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Once upon a time the majority thought the world was flat, in the modern world scientists can easily be bought and paid for by the use of funding.

Someone always brings up some stupid crap from literally before there was such a thing as "the scientific method" as though this proves their point.

You know what science does that people don't? Changes its worldview on receipt of new information. You know who makes up some of the consensus on climate change? Geologists working for oil companies. If scientists were so easy to buy, then their employers would've bought them. The time for debate about climate change is long over. It's here and we only have a few years to do something before it's too late to do anything about it.