Rumor: Radeon R9 290 to cost $449, GeForce GTX 780 Ti to be a faster Titan

By Scorpus · 16 replies
Oct 28, 2013
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  1. Following the launch of the AMD Radeon R9 290X last week, the rumor mills have started up once again in regards to a couple of other product launches we're expecting in the coming weeks. Beginning with the Radeon R9 290, the...

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  2. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 855   +121

    So nvidia is fabricating an extra chip but locking it out?
  3. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,285   +243

    Wow, faster gpus at lower price points...healthy result from a healthy competition.
  4. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Wouldn't unlocking that final smx Make it faster and cheaper than just over clocking a few stuff? Plus it seems a waste to leave that final smx locked.
  5. MrBungle

    MrBungle TS Booster Posts: 151   +67

    The "locked" SMX units on most Titan/780 cards are likely dis-functional. Offering parts with the units turned off gives nVidia the opportunity to make some money off the units with defects.
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  6. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    "it may be worth waiting a few weeks to see how these new cards turn out".
    I'd like to see how these cards turn out but unfortunately my wallet has other ideas. :(
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  7. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,198   +593

    Well this is going to be interesting...

    No, they are essentially unlocking more on the GK110 chip inside the 780, that's really all it is along with some clock bumps.

    That's called the GTX Titan, if they unlocked more on the 780, it would just be a titan.

    I'm kind of anxious to see all this, its going to be interesting seeing where the prices fall into place.
  8. amstech

    amstech IT Overlord Posts: 1,936   +1,101

    Even though the 7970 didn't clearly & definitively beat the 680 one on one (heck SLi 670's could beat out CrossfireX 7970's) you could tell it never sat well with Nvidia, not having the fastest single GPU. I figured they wouldn't let the R9 be the single GPU king for long, but its still a great GPU if you don't mind some noise & average Radeon heat.
  9. Faster performance, technologies and their reputation, could make it worth it for enthusiasts.
    ie: G-Sync, PhysX, GeForce Experience, ShadowPlay, etc.

    I can't wait for reviews.
  10. DJMIKE25

    DJMIKE25 TS Addict Posts: 174   +68

    Thats great I guess, unless you purchased a titan. haha.
  11. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,264

    Not necessarily.
    Titan is 14SMX (of 15 on die) comprising 2688 shader cores
    The GTX 780 is 12SMX comprising 2304 shader cores

    The other obvious "not-a-Titan" configurations would then be:
    13SMX (2496 shader cores)
    14SMX (2688 shader cores) + 3GB GDDR5 (as opposed to Titans 6GB) + 1:24 rate FP64 (as opposed to Titans 1:3)
    Lowering the FP64 rate and VRAM lower the input power requirement of the board at the same given clocks.

    BTW: Nvidia just announced price cuts to the GTX 780 (now $499), and GTX 770 (now $329) effective tomorrow, although Newegg and UK suppliers are starting to show the new pricing as of now.
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  12. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,198   +593

    Well from the leaks so far its rated to have 2496 Cuda Cores, but if they unlocked more than that, it would just be a titan with bumped core clocks and less vram. Right now, it sounds like Nvidia is trying to make it more powerful than a titan while using less cuda cores which I see as putting the final words on the titans gravestone if it turns to be true.

    I mis-phrased the comment above, I meant that with the 780ti, if they unlocked beyond that, it would pretty much be a titan.
  13. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    The 780Ti will be a beast. But for $700, it will be a niche card.
  14. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,264

    A beast would be a full 2880 core B1 step GK110 with a decent power delivery (something like MSI's 16+3+1 phase) two 8-pin connections and relaxed voltage control. The 780 Ti seems more like a binning exercise. The worst part of the whole deal is that Nvidia will leave more options in the cupboard for when AMD invariably refresh the 290X.
  15. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,198   +593

    You can guarantee if that ever got released, unless NVidia drops the price of the current titan down significantly a price point of 1200 bucks. Though, that would be an awesome beast of a card, but thats also a dream that I doubt would come true.

    Its really going to come down to the area this card falls into honestly.
  16. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,264

    Likely that a full 2880 core GeForce card ONLY arrives once Maxwell shows up. Nvidia will replicate the Kepler launch schedule with Maxwell- mainstream parts (GPU) first, enthusiast will follow later after the HPC (GPU+ARM) contracts have been fulfilled. It stands to reason that the low/mainstream-end Maxwell could co-exist with a maxed out GK110/180 as the top part sufficing for the high-end until GM110 shows up.
    That being the case then I doubt that a 2880 core GeForce would be significantly more expensive than the current cards since Nvidia's only other need for GK110 would be warranty replacements for HPC deployed Tesla's.
  17. ddg4005

    ddg4005 TS Guru Posts: 384   +54

    Damn, the R290X and GTX 780 Ti are seriously priced to sell. Considering the parts will retail for $549 and $649 respectively, and given their performance, I'd say this as good a time as any to replace an old or aging graphics card.

    Fortunately, I replaced my GTX 670s with 4GB GTX 770s so I'm done for quite awhile regarding video iron but it's always good to see new hardware coming from Nvidia and AMD.

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