Russian troops steal $5 million worth of John Deere farm vehicles from Ukraine, find they've...

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yannus

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Looks like a good advertisement for JD. "We defeated the enemy with our wonderful technology". When you just imagine the servers that Telegram has to store all the cache of your chats + all the channels content, I doubt that Russia is such a prehistoric country, technologically speaking, that they couldn't bypass such JD's remote lock. And I'm quite sure that, if in a few weeks, so-called Russian hackers would cyber attack western Internet, then there would be no problem saying they have the best hackers in the world. All these news are manipulated and press has no problem saying one thing and its opposite.
 
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Raytrace3D

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Can't these tractors be remotely driven too? Would be a shame if someone got hurt by "accident"... oops.
 

Ashford

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Russians soldiers know only one strategy from 2ww - flatten everything, steal everything and rape anything.
There is not much philosophy in flattenig anything, and good, because those orcs are too stupid to do anything else.
To thin, they were considered a 2nd army in the world...
... That I would live to read "rape anything", "philosophy" and "orcs" in the same post on my tech site....
 

drjekelmrhyde

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The coverage of Russian operations in the Ukraine is so badly warped by the western press. It really is giving the Russian propaganda a run for its money at times. I mean the mainstream media even rebooted the “ghost of Kyiv” bullshit over the last few days.

And it’s not even hard to find the truth, not in this day and age. The sad thing is if this harvester rubbish is the best positive story they can come up with for the Ukraine then things are probably not looking good over there.

I wonder for how long are the west going to continue to fuel Zelensky for. It kinda feels like all that’s happening is we are throwing more bombs and bodies at an inevitable loss.
Some of it is and some of might not be propaganda. The Ghost of Kyiv story was pure bullshiat. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ghost-of-kyiv-pilot-myth-b2069786.html
 

Sausagemeat

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I agree there's a lot of bullsh!t stories, but the outcome is far from foreseeable. The battle of Kyiv was lost by the Russians, they retreated with heavy losses, their best battleship lies on the bottom of the Black Sea, the battle is raging in Donbas and in the south, but they can't make any significant progress and these facts can't be disputed.
Lmao those facts can 100% be disputed. The fact is the Russians have taken a lot of territory in the Ukraine and in a relatively short period of time. If things continue to go as they are then the Ukraine will fall.

Once you are aware that the mainstream press is not reporting the losses or anything negative about the Ukraine it’s pretty easy to see what’s happening. 3 cities have fallen in 2 months. Where do you think the Ukraine will be after 12 months of this?
 

emmzo

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Lmao those facts can 100% be disputed. The fact is the Russians have taken a lot of territory in the Ukraine and in a relatively short period of time. If things continue to go as they are then the Ukraine will fall.

Once you are aware that the mainstream press is not reporting the losses or anything negative about the Ukraine it’s pretty easy to see what’s happening. 3 cities have fallen in 2 months. Where do you think the Ukraine will be after 12 months of this?
You clearly love one side of the story, so, enjoy your fantasies! Pigs fly and Moskva is still afloat.
 

scavengerspc

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Lmao those facts can 100% be disputed. The fact is the Russians have taken a lot of territory in the Ukraine and in a relatively short period of time. If things continue to go as they are then the Ukraine will fall.
I will not mention that they don't take territory, they bomb it. What I did want to do was remind you that you are in love with one of the weakest, poorly trained and error-prone militaries with the weakest, poorly designed and built, and least reliable heavy armaments in the world.
 

Alfatawi Mendel

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I agree there's a lot of bullsh!t stories, but the outcome is far from foreseeable. The battle of Kyiv was lost by the Russians, they retreated with heavy losses, their best battleship lies on the bottom of the Black Sea, the battle is raging in Donbas and in the south, but they can't make any significant progress and these facts can't be disputed.
According to the western press. The Russians have taken losses...but nothing like the MSM would have us believe. Ukraine is a big country, and arming civilians is never a good idea. Ukraine is fighting a hybrid guerilla war, and that comes with big casualties too. All is not as it seems...
 

scavengerspc

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According to the western press. The Russians have taken losses...but nothing like the MSM would have us believe. Ukraine is a big country, and arming civilians is never a good idea. Ukraine is fighting a hybrid guerilla war, and that comes with big casualties too. All is not as it seems...
The "MSM" boogie man is simply stating given facts known.
That doesn't register with some for obvious reasons.

They state the stats given to them by the UN, NATO.

Now can we please end the latest conspiracy theory?
 

AlaskaGuy

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The "MSM" boogie man is simply stating given facts known.
That doesn't register with some for obvious reasons.

They state the stats given to them by the UN, NATO.

Now can we please end the latest conspiracy theory?
He's correct. The Russians have been pushed back from Kyiv but they are pounding the h3ll out of the Donbass and I have this on good authority.
 

scavengerspc

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He's correct. The Russians have been pushed back from Kyiv but they are pounding the h3ll out of the Donbass and I have this on good authority.
You don't need "good authority". It's all over the news. All news.
Know what else is all over the news? All Russian forces were pulled and concentrated just in that area, and they still haven't taken it.

Word was early that they would take Ukraine in 3 days and after focusing only in that area they still havent even won that.
Know why?
Because to secure it they will have to go in with ground troops. And the Russians know that is a death sentence for them.

It's never a good idea for a lot of Chihuahuas to attack even a few Pit bulls.
 

kiwigraeme

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He's correct. The Russians have been pushed back from Kyiv but they are pounding the h3ll out of the Donbass and I have this on good authority.

Lots of the Russian Ukranians in Donbass are rethinking their support of Russia - Men of all ages forced conscription to the Russian meatgrinder.
Their houses looted . their children and wives raped .
These tractors may be from people who previously supported Russia we don't know - but they come from the Donbass regions

I believe the word Liberator in Russia has a very broad meaning
To liberate you of your life, for 12 year old son or daughters innocence , for PS4, your toilet , your John Deere Tractor

Imagine if this was USA troops stealing , looting , flattening schools, hospitals - like Russia in Finland, Chechnya , Poland , Germany , Georgia, Afghanistan , Syria, Africa- Crimea centuries past , Siberia centuries past etc etc

If you don't believe all the MSM from lots of countries and only extreme channels -Then as I said ask yourself why no corrections or apologies for mistakes .
Ask yourselves- your media never says unfavourable stories to their cause - unlike MSM
Do you think Breitbart will have a story about Trump terrified off tomatoes - those can be deadly -they could fruit me ( his words ) - I don't even have to search - as they never do stories - like Trump won't support your troops as may get hair wet attending
At least me honest you don't care for any real truth - you don't care if your side goes massively into debt .
I don't mind Trump/Putin isn't perfect - but he ... - least there is some realisation
 

AlaskaGuy

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Lots of the Russian Ukranians in Donbass are rethinking their support of Russia - Men of all ages forced conscription to the Russian meatgrinder.
Their houses looted . their children and wives raped .
These tractors may be from people who previously supported Russia we don't know - but they come from the Donbass regions

I believe the word Liberator in Russia has a very broad meaning
To liberate you of your life, for 12 year old son or daughters innocence , for PS4, your toilet , your John Deere Tractor

Imagine if this was USA troops stealing , looting , flattening schools, hospitals - like Russia in Finland, Chechnya , Poland , Germany , Georgia, Afghanistan , Syria, Africa- Crimea centuries past , Siberia centuries past etc etc

If you don't believe all the MSM from lots of countries and only extreme channels -Then as I said ask yourself why no corrections or apologies for mistakes .
Ask yourselves- your media never says unfavourable stories to their cause - unlike MSM
Do you think Breitbart will have a story about Trump terrified off tomatoes - those can be deadly -they could fruit me ( his words ) - I don't even have to search - as they never do stories - like Trump won't support your troops as may get hair wet attending
At least me honest you don't care for any real truth - you don't care if your side goes massively into debt .
I don't mind Trump/Putin isn't perfect - but he ... - least there is some realisation
I have friends in Donetsk, friends in Kyiv, etc ... so I get first hand word of what's going on. Putin wants to land route to the Krim along with control of the water supply to the Krim more than anything. I think he will stop the invasion once he achieves his goal. On the flip side Ukrainians will never trust the Russians after this. Any friendship they had with each other is pretty much over with.
 

scavengerspc

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I have friends in Donetsk, friends in Kyiv, etc ... so I get first hand word of what's going on. Putin wants to land route to the Krim along with control of the water supply to the Krim more than anything. I think he will stop the invasion once he achieves his goal. On the flip side Ukrainians will never trust the Russians after this. Any friendship they had with each other is pretty much over with.
Are you talking about the Dnieper River? The Russians unblocked that 2 months ago.
 

Reinette Tineker

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They didn't want to develop their industry. Instead (thieves) oligarchs bought huge yachts. They built themselves expensive palaces. And then they went to kill Ukrainians. And then they stole their tractors, washing machines, women's sanitary pads. It is clear: rusia (not russia) - is a country of thieves and orcs.
 

kiwigraeme

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I have friends in Donetsk, friends in Kyiv, etc ... so I get first hand word of what's going on. Putin wants to land route to the Krim along with control of the water supply to the Krim more than anything. I think he will stop the invasion once he achieves his goal. On the flip side Ukrainians will never trust the Russians after this. Any friendship they had with each other is pretty much over with.
Yeah Ukraine has turned off Crimea's water - so expensive to grow stuff . I never got to Crimea in 1998 when I suppose I could of - A tourist visa for Kiwis was I think a US$100 - plus was time limited I think ( 2 weeks ??) . When in Wrocław I heard I could get a transit visa for $30 from the Polish border town - The Black sea surrounds and Odessa sounded really interesting - but I was with my Polish Girlfriend at time visiting her family plus to see Krakow ( Belsen ) Zakopane etc then on to Czech Republic.
Had only a few regrets travelling - should of gone to Central Asia post 1989 after USSR breakup - never got there - Never got to Afghanistan - though I could have cross the border for illegal tours from North Pakistan - went all over North Pakistan 2 different times to remote areas - so similar to say Tajikistan
Never got to Galapagos it was same price as Ecuador when you got there in 1987 - but unlike later I didn't have spare $500 for flight and still had to travel 6 more months South America ( of 6 already ) then the States another 3 ( hitchhiking, hiking National Parks , Youth Hostels and driveaways before NY to London to work ) only 22 years old with not so great NZD
 

scavengerspc

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Yeah Ukraine has turned off Crimea's water
So I mentioned to AlaskaGuy that the water was restored in Feb. and didn't get a response, again.

I'm wondering if I am missing something. Was the water flow from the Dnieper Canal dammed again? Everything I can find confirms that the dam was in fact destroyed a few months ago and is still flowing.

EDIT - This was all I could find so far.

 
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AlaskaGuy

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So I mentioned to AlaskaGuy that the water was restored in Feb. and didn't get a response, again.

I'm wondering if I am missing something. Was the water flow from the Dnieper Canal dammed again? Everything I can find confirms that the dam was in fact destroyed a few months ago and is still flowing.

EDIT - This was all I could find so far.

Putin wants a land route to the Krim hence Mariupol along with control of the Krim's water supply. That's a Capt. Obvious fact(s).
 

scavengerspc

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Putin wants a land route to the Krim hence Mariupol along with control of the Krim's water supply. That's a Capt. Obvious fact(s).
Are you talking about the southeast corridor? I think I remember that from 2014-15, but I have heard nothing of it recently. I have friends in Rostov-On-Don and Dnipro, and they have not even hinted at that. Do you have a source I can read? If it's a thing, I'd like to catch up.
 
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AlaskaGuy

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Are you talking about the southeast corridor? I think I remember that from 2014-15, but I have heard nothing of it recently. I have friends in Rostov-On-Don and Dnipro, and they have not even hinted at that. Do you have a source I can read? If it's a thing, I'd like to catch up.
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Reinette Tineker

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Putin wants a land route to the Krim hence Mariupol along with control of the Krim's water supply.
putin wants to destroy Ukraine. Completely. In fact, this is Holocaust II. The destruction of the people as an ethnos. And putin's tales of "water and corridor" are empty words. Don't forget: putin is a low rank KGB former (staff sergeant). That is, an illiterate uneducated boor.
 

AlaskaGuy

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putin wants to destroy Ukraine. Completely. In fact, this is Holocaust II. The destruction of the people as an ethnos. And putin's tales of "water and corridor" are empty words. Don't forget: putin is a low rank KGB former (staff sergeant). That is, an illiterate uneducated boor.
Not only did Putin graduate from Leningrad university while being fluent in multiple languages, he retired from the KGB as a Lieutenant Colonel.
 

emmzo

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Not only did Putin graduate from Leningrad university while being fluent in multiple languages, he retired from the KGB as a Lieutenant Colonel.
And yet his commanding officer said Putin was average on just about anything. A mediocre agent, but a very skillful politician. He's not dumb, I'll give you that, but not very bright outside political machinations. Hitler was a genius politician, but not much else and we all know how that turned out.
 

scavengerspc

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Lots of colors, I'll say that. I can find a map in seconds. And in the last few hours I heard that what you are leaning on now is not even briefly talked about in Russia. It honestly looks like the claim you made above is all yours.

So again, I said to you:
"I have friends in Rostov-On-Don and Dnipro, and they have not even hinted at that. Do you have a source I can read? If it's a thing, I'd like to catch up."

Not only did Putin graduate from Leningrad university while being fluent in multiple languages, he retired from the KGB as a Lieutenant Colonel.

And about that:
 
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