Senator looks to stop built-in government backdoors in consumer electronics

By Justin Kahn ยท 14 replies
Dec 5, 2014
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  1. As previously reported, there are a number of US national security agencies, including the FBI, that want to have the right to build secretive backdoors directly into consumer electronics hardware. This essentially means manufacturers would be forced to include security holes...

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,733   +3,705

    I'm contemplating between this being a smart man or if this is a public relations gimmick.
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  3. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,340   +1,435

    If it is a gimmick then it will remain a gimmick until people start taking these people seriously. With all of the GOP's smaller government talk I'd expect them to jump on board with this. But if we look at the last 6 years they will probably be against this kind of thing simply because he is a democrat. Both sides have some good ideas but it seems like the disagree with each other on sheer principle. "you said yes so I'm going to say no!" "You think this is a good idea so I think it's a bad idea!"

    Doesn't matter what they're talking about, the moment one side says something the other disagrees with it. This is something that everyone should agree on, there is no argument. We've been losing our rights for the past 20 years, it's about time we do something about it, Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative.
  4. Rippleman

    Rippleman TS Evangelist Posts: 817   +371

    Why have a back door when you can get in through the front?
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  5. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,739   +3,757

    Everyone shows up at the front door. If you go in through the back, you're edgy. Gotta be cool when spyin' on peeps, yo.
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  6. bexwhitt

    bexwhitt TS Guru Posts: 355   +73

    The problem with your super secret back door is some sweaty kid with nothing better to do is going to find the key to the door then all consumer electronics is compromised.

    The USA secret squirrel department suck up so much data already that it's like looking for a needle in a million haystacks (or 3 million of those big rolls of hay we have these days).
  7. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    There's more to forming an opinion than just looking at whether there's a D or R next to the guy's name. The answer to Cliff's question though is yes, this is most definitely a gimmick. Have you ever heard of this guy, Ron Wyden? No, and neither has anyone else, which is why he introduced this bill. A favorite trick of politicians is to introduce a bill that on the surface everyone would obviously be in favor of (like this one). Then they put in a part of the bill that their opponents would veto (in this case, maybe it's a new tax or something) and then come election time, the guy who introduced the bill can put out a commercial saying his opponent is against protecting consumers from backdoors in their technology.

    yRaz, yes the GOP is in favor of smaller govt, but that's because they think the govt is sticking it's nose in places it doesn't belong, like healthcare, business/banking regulation, excessive taxes etc. They think one of the things govt is actually supposed to do is protect their citizens and our borders. This means they usually, and I stress usually, are more in favor of things that protect us from terrorism even if it makes them unpopular, while dems are more happy to do what looks better on camera than what actually works. Looking good before an election instead of fighting terrorism was the whole reason for the Benghazi scandal, and 4 Americans died for it.

    The truth of it is, the whole surveillance thing turns out to be rather bi-partisan. And if you look at who is in favor and who isn't, it turns out that the politicians in favor of backdoors and surveillance are the ones on the intelligence committees, while the ones without top level clearance are more apt to please the public. Makes me wonder if we'd all be in favor of surveillance if we all knew what the top brass knew.
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  8. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,733   +3,705

    I would if the surveillance was a two way street. It's not, so I'm not interested. I "will not" willingly give up my privacy while they maintain their own, I repeat "will not"! Full transparency of everyone involved or nothing at all.
  9. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    So while the American politicians duke it out the rest of the world waits with bated breath because it obviously affects the entire globe.
  10. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,733   +3,705

    So true, and where is the voice of the rest of the world. Perhaps they are cowering behind their curtains, wanting to benefit from both sides of the coin.
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  11. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,811   +472

    Finally someone in a high position had thought this out.
  12. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    I couldn't agree with you more.
  13. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,025   +2,557

    Well, it's most likely a smart man with respect to public relations gimmicks
  14. Hexic

    Hexic TS Maniac Posts: 333   +165


    Apologies, couldn't resist. :p
  15. Rippleman

    Rippleman TS Evangelist Posts: 817   +371

    I thought about that too after I posted lol,
    Hexic likes this.

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