Signal defends itself after US military officials leak classified plans by mistake on group chat

What a ****show many of these officials contacts, emails, dropboxes, passwords are on line for anyway to grab,. I though open venmo contact lists of all your contacts for US Head of "Intelligence" was bad - what a FN joke - all their drop boxed and phones are 100% hacked
 
You didn’t read my argument… I’m not arguing that Signal should be used by the government!!
My point is that the security that was “broken” IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE was in no way the fault of Signal! It was the fault of stupidity!

I don't understand why they are not understanding.

Wait, did that make sense? I got your first post, I guess some have to argue that white is white.
 
The story seems to be glossing over the real lapse of security… it wasn’t Signal - it’s quite secure! The security flaw was some dolt inviting the wrong person into the chat room!

You can be using the most secure device in the world but…. If you give it to the wrong person, you’re still compromised!

I’m wondering if the invitation was really sent by accident though…
No you couldn't be more wrong. Signal isn't controlled by the government or accredited by the governmet for handling classified information. Doesn't matter how secure they promise it is it cannot be used to transmit classified data of any kind, not even CUI. Systems that are accredited for handling classified can't be accessed by random journalists or anyone who doesn't have the equipment, connections, configurations, accounts, white lists and permissions.

Blaming the guy who invited a journalist for a conversation that never should have occurred on an uncleared system is stupid. The data that was shared came from a classified network and it never should have happened on an unclass system.

National security shouldn't be compromised because it isn't convenient enough for lazy politicians.

 
As far as this incident and story go that is a moot point.

The story here has zero to do with Signal's security and 100% to do with some ******* inviting the wrong person into a private group.

The fact that 99% of the article and noise around it is about whether Signal is secure or not is a giant red herring.
No one should be arguing anything about the security of Signal. No app on a personal phone should be used to discuss anything associated with the work these people should be doing. Inviting the wrong person is how they got caught doing the thing they shouldn't be doing which is being lazy and disregarding national security because doing it right was too inconvenient for them. People in these higher positions should be held to a higher, not lower, standard. They should all be fired and replaced with people who know what they are doing. The people using Signal are the problem, no one should be using it for classified data transmission.
 
No one should be arguing anything about the security of Signal. No app on a personal phone should be used to discuss anything associated with the work these people should be doing. Inviting the wrong person is how they got caught doing the thing they shouldn't be doing which is being lazy and disregarding national security because doing it right was too inconvenient for them. People in these higher positions should be held to a higher, not lower, standard. They should all be fired and replaced with people who know what they are doing. The people using Signal are the problem, no one should be using it for classified data transmission.
nailed it.
 
They should all be fired and replaced with people who know what they are doing.
IMO, That's probably easier said than done for many reasons. First among those, IMO, is it would likely tarnish the image of "the exalted one," or should I say, "the self-exalted one." Not that "the exalted one's" image isn't tarnished already.
 
Ummm he hired the guy... he only hires the brightest and best...

As captain of the ship, he owns this more than anyone.
That's probably the biggest part of the problem, IMO. Yet no-one, so far, is willing to hold his feet to the fire for various reasons.

There are signs it may be in the not-too-distant future, however.
 
Looks like the US gov has gone from using secure, specially hardened devices and applications to just... whatever they can find.

"Our intrepid leaders had everything they wanted. Power. Wealth. Prestige. And it made them lazy, America. Oh yes. And laziness breeds stupidity."

- President John Henry Eden
You could say that about the general population too....
 
That's probably the biggest part of the problem, IMO. Yet no-one, so far, is willing to hold his feet to the fire for various reasons.

There are signs it may be in the not-too-distant future, however.
republicans are as spineless as the democrats when it comes to challenging trump. I wouldnt hold my breath.
 
republicans are as spineless as the democrats when it comes to challenging trump. I wouldnt hold my breath.
Republicans have far more reason to fear Trump - he can withhold their nominations and ruin their careers - or make them… unless there’s a huge democrat win in the next congressional elections in less than 2 years, republicans have no choice but to support him.
 
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