Solar power sets record in the US with 50 GW added, meanwhile Big Tech bets on nuclear

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TL;DR: In recent years, the energy landscape has undergone significant shifts, with both solar and nuclear power gaining prominence. Last year, the United States experienced a remarkable surge in solar energy, installing a record-breaking 50 gigawatts of new solar capacity – the largest single-year addition to the grid by any energy technology in over two decades. At the same time, interest in nuclear power is growing, particularly among tech giants. A key example of this trend is Amazon, Google, and Meta pledging to support efforts to at least triple global nuclear energy capacity by 2050.

According to the US Solar Market Insight 2024 Year in Review report by the Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA) and Wood Mackenzie, solar and storage together accounted for 84 percent of all new electric generating capacity added to the grid last year. The 50 GW of new capacity was enough to power approximately 8.5 million households.

This growth was accompanied by a significant expansion in domestic solar manufacturing, with module production tripling in 2024. At full capacity, US factories can now meet nearly all domestic demand for solar panels, substantially strengthening the nation's energy supply chain. Additionally, solar cell manufacturing resumed in 2024, further bolstering domestic production.

Texas led the nation in new solar capacity additions, installing 11.6 GW, while 21 states set new annual records, and 13 states added over 1 GW of new capacity. The utility-scale segment saw a 33 percent year-over-year increase, reaching a record 41.4 GW of installed capacity.

Both community and commercial solar markets also hit record highs, growing by 35% percent and eight percent, respectively.

However, the residential solar market saw its weakest year since 2021 due to policy changes and high interest rates, though projections suggest a rebound over the next decade.

Despite these achievements, the solar industry faces significant challenges, particularly policy uncertainties that could impact future growth. Changes in federal tax credits, supply chain constraints, and permitting policies may slow solar deployment, potentially leading to a $250 billion loss in investment over the next decade. Such setbacks could have far-reaching implications for the US energy sector and economic growth.

Meanwhile, new developments in nuclear energy highlight the growing demand for this power source, particularly Amazon, Google, and Meta's recent pledge, facilitated by the World Nuclear Association. This commitment aligns with a broader initiative initially backed by over 20 countries, including the US, during the UN Climate Change Conference in December 2023. Financial institutions such as Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, and Morgan Stanley have also endorsed this goal.

The tech sector's interest in nuclear energy stems from its need for reliable, consistent power to support expanding data centers and artificial intelligence operations. While renewables like solar are essential for reducing carbon emissions, they may not provide the continuous power required for these energy-intensive systems.

Amazon and Google have already begun investing in small modular reactors, a technology that could lower costs and shorten deployment timelines compared to traditional nuclear reactors. Meanwhile, Meta has issued a call for proposals to add up to 4 GW of new nuclear power in the US.

As the world seeks to balance environmental goals with economic growth and energy security, solar and nuclear power will likely play critical roles. Successfully integrating these energy sources will be essential for meeting rising electricity demand while reducing carbon emissions.

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I don't think there should really be any regulations for installing solar panels on your house. Energy independance has always been a matter of national security and some HOA Karen shouldn't have the right to prevent you from installing solar on your house because she thinks it doesn't look good.

As far as nuclear goes. Well, all the "feel good" answers of clean energy haven't gotten use very far over the last 20-30 years so maybe it's try to push towards something else? And as far as any danger goes. Well, maybe don't build a power plant on a fault zone next to the ocean? Seems like a slight oversight on Japan's part right there.... As far as disposal of waste goes, burying it in granite and then covering it on concrete seems like a pretty good solution. Nuclear only needs to last us long enough until we get commcerial fusion down so 100 years of nuclear waste doesn't sound all that bad considering we're already polluting the planet with microplastics and heavy metals(lead and depleted uranium) from all the wars we can't help but keep starting.

Maybe if we hadn't already polluted the planet to even the most remote places I'd be understanding of the nuclear waste thing, but that's small fries compared to plastic and heavy metal we have dumped into the environment over the last ~100 years. I don't think it's really about saving the planet any more, it's about f***ing it up less
 
Wind and Solar Overtake Coal Power for First Time in U.S.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/wind-a...9d8f?msockid=24be2134f82767012b613286f9026699

Cool. Im also pro nuke. And natural gas stations are an excellent step forward over coal and oil.

**** coal and oil plants. They are to our respiratory system what cholesterol
is to our circulatory system.

But it's not fair to my CONServative friends, so I decided to post a picture guaranteed to
give them happy and nostalgic thoughts for the good old days: :D
cleveland.preview.jpeg
 
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Wind and Solar Overtake Coal Power for First Time in U.S.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/wind-a...9d8f?msockid=24be2134f82767012b613286f9026699

Cool. Im also pro nuke. And natural gas stations are an excellent step forward over coal and oil.

**** coal and oil plants. They are to our respiratory system what cholesterol
is to our circulatory system.

But it's not fair to my CONServative friends, so I decided to post a picture guaranteed to
give them happy and nostalgic thoughts for the good old days:
cleveland.preview.jpeg
The "con"servatives around here wont like that... this website is overran with them and they get their elon-panties in a twist every time with something like this.
 
Natural gas should've always been a stepping stone to cleaner energy but there are those among the environmental nutcases that believe that that's not going far enough and that we have to go completely green. And don't ask them about nuclear.

Germany shut down all of their nuclear plants a few years ago and energy prices skyrocketed, they ended up buying a lot of their power from France who didn't shut their plants down and have plans to build even more plants. Needless to say, they've been raking in the Euros ever since.

For individuals, yes... for those that can afford it, should go energy independent. I wish I could, I hate my power company's rates.

Nuclear is the only viable option for clean electrical power for the masses. And as for nuclear waste, there's fast breeder reactors that practically eat nuclear waste.
 
Natural gas should've always been a stepping stone to cleaner energy but there are those among the environmental nutcases that believe that that's not going far enough and that we have to go completely green. And don't ask them about nuclear.

Germany shut down all of their nuclear plants a few years ago and energy prices skyrocketed, they ended up buying a lot of their power from France who didn't shut their plants down and have plans to build even more plants. Needless to say, they've been raking in the Euros ever since.

For individuals, yes... for those that can afford it, should go energy independent. I wish I could, I hate my power company's rates.

Nuclear is the only viable option for clean electrical power for the masses. And as for nuclear waste, there's fast breeder reactors that practically eat nuclear waste.
Don't forget the lignite power they buy from Poland.

All they did was outsource the issue in exchange for a couple of votes from the wild greens.
 
Solar is one of the most ****ed up things with tariffs/lobbyists. we could be importing panels for HALF or even a THIRD the cost for more than a decade and have a much larger solar core, but lobbyists made sure that we needed to use ''domestic panels'' and jacked the tariffs .. Meanwhile lobbyists have successfully plied influence to allow 'power companies' to have little oversight allowing them to not invest in infrastructure and make huge payouts to shareholders which now hamstrings power transmission as the lines and stations cannot handle the incoming current generated by the panels. ****ers also stoked uneducated ****ing midwesterners to the point a highschool in the midwest TEACHES that solar panels INTERRUPT photosynthesis... just to ensure the sulfur spewing coal plant that kills workers who live in the same town can keep operating.

No solar is not great in a lot of places, but where it is great it should be everywhere and transmitted outward but ****ing legacy energy money is to ****ing strong to overcome.

if we had 2-3x the panel install rate the ''loss of manufacturing jobs '' would be offset by skilled labor needed to install, maintain and repair solar farms across the ****ing states but that threatens legacy energy too much. Add to that with great farm density comes energy storage that again would need more skilled labor to offset the loss of manufacturing .. but no... lets use coal like the ****ing 50s because the power transmission lines cannot handle the abundant communist energy in states like AZ, NV where the population density would allow gigawatt farms to run 250 days a year and LOWER everyone's ****ing bills.

but no, lets burn lahaina to the ground, lets burn half of oregon to the ground with negligent power companies only interested in stock payouts and trips to thaiwan ...

EVEN TEXAS has learned that solar and wind is ''good'' ... that is saying something.
 
The "con"servatives around here wont like that... this website is overran with them and they get their elon-panties in a twist every time with something like this.
That's what they get for letting Elon in their panties. 🤣

The current administration will probably try to make the Sun illegal, that, or blame the fact that the Sun shines on the Biden administration.
 
Natural gas should've always been a stepping stone to cleaner energy but there are those among the environmental nutcases that believe that that's not going far enough and that we have to go completely green. And don't ask them about nuclear.
Nuclear is making a comeback in the US (and around the world).
 
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No solar is not great in a lot of places, but where it is great it should be everywhere and transmitted outward but ****ing legacy energy money is to ****ing strong to overcome.
How "great" solar is depends, at least in part, on how well the array is sized for the average amount of sunshine that is received where solar is installed. Solar arrays must be sized properly. If a region's average sunshine is less than another's region, the array must be bigger for the region with less sunshine. That also means the array for the low sunshine region will cost more than an array for a region with a higher level of average sunshine.
EVEN TEXAS has learned that solar and wind is ''good'' ... that is saying something.
Yeah, all cons are not dumb.
 
I don't think there should really be any regulations for installing solar panels on your house. Energy independance has always been a matter of national security and some HOA Karen shouldn't have the right to prevent you from installing solar on your house because she thinks it doesn't look good.
I agree about HOAs, however, in many cases, solar arrays supply electricity and that is where most of the regulation will come in especially if the output is 120 VAC.
As far as nuclear goes. Well, all the "feel good" answers of clean energy haven't gotten use very far over the last 20-30 years so maybe it's try to push towards something else? And as far as any danger goes. Well, maybe don't build a power plant on a fault zone next to the ocean? Seems like a slight oversight on Japan's part right there....
As I understand it, it was more that the emergency generators we installed below sea level, or at least, where they could be swamped with water - thus making them inoperable.

In any event, there have been lessons learned from past mistakes and the chances of repeating those specific mistakes are much smaller as a result.

As I understand it, developments in nuclear have improved reactor design resulting in safer/better/less accident-prone reactors.
 
Up until the Hanoi Jane movie "The China Syndrome", along with Three Mile Island (even though the safety features WORKED), nuclear was on the rise. Then the green types got all hot and bothered and convinced their allies in the media and DC to ditch that for solar & wind. To obtain the materials for solar you have to consume a LOT of dirt to get the raw materials for the cells & batteries. Not to mention on wind, those huge fiberglass blades have to be replaced and are hard to dispose of. In the early 70's, they were starting to build a nuclear reactor about 30 miles from our town. In between classes in school, we were yacking back and for about "oh no! If it blows up we will all die". Our teacher overhead our yacking about it and when class started (a VERY intelligent science teacher!), he spent the entire class drawing on the chalkboard what a reactor was, how it worked and all the safety features. By the time we were finished, we were all on board for nuke plants...it's just a giant heat source to generate steam to run a generator turbine to produce electricity.
I hope the nuke plant idea takes off and more are built, at least until fusion ever comes around.
 
Solar is one of the most ****ed up things with tariffs/lobbyists. we could be importing panels for HALF or even a THIRD the cost for more than a decade and have a much larger solar core, but lobbyists made sure that we needed to use ''domestic panels'' and jacked the tariffs .. Meanwhile lobbyists have successfully plied influence to allow 'power companies' to have little oversight allowing them to not invest in infrastructure and make huge payouts to shareholders which now hamstrings power transmission as the lines and stations cannot handle the incoming current generated by the panels. ****ers also stoked uneducated ****ing midwesterners to the point a highschool in the midwest TEACHES that solar panels INTERRUPT photosynthesis... just to ensure the sulfur spewing coal plant that kills workers who live in the same town can keep operating.

No solar is not great in a lot of places, but where it is great it should be everywhere and transmitted outward but ****ing legacy energy money is to ****ing strong to overcome.

if we had 2-3x the panel install rate the ''loss of manufacturing jobs '' would be offset by skilled labor needed to install, maintain and repair solar farms across the ****ing states but that threatens legacy energy too much. Add to that with great farm density comes energy storage that again would need more skilled labor to offset the loss of manufacturing .. but no... lets use coal like the ****ing 50s because the power transmission lines cannot handle the abundant communist energy in states like AZ, NV where the population density would allow gigawatt farms to run 250 days a year and LOWER everyone's ****ing bills.

but no, lets burn lahaina to the ground, lets burn half of oregon to the ground with negligent power companies only interested in stock payouts and trips to thaiwan ...

EVEN TEXAS has learned that solar and wind is ''good'' ... that is saying something.

You rail against arbitrary rules "preventing" solar from being everywhere, then site Texas as a success. You couldn't be more wrong on all of it. First, the Chinese dump everything into this country. So far, they've crippled our steel production, pharmaceuticals, garment industry, etc. by dumping products far below market cost to force domestic suppliers out of business. You would have a majority of our power supply directly controlled by a foreign government to reach a pie in the sky goal?

Next, the state of Texas is possibly going to have their next two (or so), gas power plants owned directly by the state. Why is Texas going into the power business, you may ask? It's because the same people who are propping up the US solar industry with their regulations, have back door banned new plants by making it impossible to finance a new gas power plant by providing power companies huge subsidies to build wind and solar, that no one will build or finance a gas plant due to the "free" money for green construction.

Everyone needs to get out of the game an do what is best for the public. Get the governments (both foreign and domestic) and special interest groups out of our energy supply and let the best (and cheapest) products win.
 
While we're at it, the major thing that makes these articles a total sham are the "facts" presented.
While the 50 GW is probably an accurate number for capacity, that is the net generation capable during peak operation. The fun comes in with the capacity factor. The actual percentage of total capacity that solar generation actually produces. The capacity factor for commercial solar ranges from 7 to 35%, with an average of just over 24%. In other words, we added a record 12 GW in actual electricity production. Wonder how much the plentiful energy wound up costing us.
 
You rail against arbitrary rules "preventing" solar from being everywhere, then site Texas as a success. You couldn't be more wrong on all of it. First, the Chinese dump everything into this country. So far, they've crippled our steel production, pharmaceuticals, garment industry, etc. by dumping products far below market cost to force domestic suppliers out of business. You would have a majority of our power supply directly controlled by a foreign government to reach a pie in the sky goal?
Somehow blaming China when the US, starting with Nixon, actively courted the Chinese. That's rich. Then again, that's the common play of the current administration, Blame everyone else, but take no responsibility for their own actions. That tack will wear thin.
 
What!? nobody even mentioned geothermal plants!

I recall one of those 'science' magazines of several years ago, had its cover showing the geothermal plant, hoping people would buy the mag. So, what ever happened with these geothermal plants? Is it merely a matter of finding an appropriate site on which to build one?
 
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