Study blames YouTube for spread of Flat Earth movement

wiyosaya

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Fun facts to know and share, the Spanish Inquisition didn't officially end until 1834 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Ponder the things which had gone before. We discovered the world was round, (despite the still extant deniers), the rise of Islam, and the protestant reformation. Yet they still kept it up with the whips and chains until near the beginning of the industrial revolution.
IMO, it says quite a bit about what they think of themselves.
 

Danny101

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Perhaps I should have said, "They make good pest control for anyone's house." :D
I know the argument and there's plenty to back it up. Sometimes I relent if I recognize the species and if I'm confident if it's going to stick to the ground level and not web down to my face. Especially while I'm sleeping. The jumping spiders are cool though.
 

captaincranky

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I know the argument and there's plenty to back it up. Sometimes I relent if I recognize the species and if I'm confident if it's going to stick to the ground level and not web down to my face. Especially while I'm sleeping. The jumping spiders are cool though.
My god Danny, where do you live, Pandora?
 

Danny101

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My god Danny, where do you live, Pandora?
I move a lot. Also keep things in and out of storage. Pick up a lot of critters in the process. I also work in autobody shops. Spiders everywhere. Nothing like minding your own business just working away, and out of the corner of your eye and see some wiggly legs.
 

wiyosaya

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I know the argument and there's plenty to back it up. Sometimes I relent if I recognize the species and if I'm confident if it's going to stick to the ground level and not web down to my face. Especially while I'm sleeping. The jumping spiders are cool though.
I once saw a battle pan out in my house between one of those small yellow spiders one of these, I think

And one of those black-banded jumping spiders -

The images are not to scale, but the little yellow guy did not make out all that well. The jumping spider pounced on it.
 
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Knot Schure

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https://bibleview.org/en/bible/genesis/7days/ With day four being the creation of Stars, Sun, and Moon, I am not able to agree.
That is, in essence, the entire operating principle behind "th Holy Roman Empire". Constantine, crowned emperor in 313 AD, was the first Christian to hold that title. The Western half of the Roman Empire, fell in 476 AD. After which date, Rome itself was no longer able to control its empire by threat of physical violence.

Accordingly, as the people accepted Christianity, Rome switched its tactics to control the people through the fear of eternal damnation. The popes controlled marital unions throughout the formerly occupied territories, and waged war "in the name of God and Jesus" throughout the middle ages.

Fast forward to today. their cloistered priests can no longer accept and are not able to survive and compete in the secular world.

Accordingly, .the concept of "papal infallibility", has given them leave to pursue whatever deviant needs they so choose.

From the point of mannerism and affect, I find it difficult to distinguish between "piety", and overt homosexuality..

At some point here, I feel obliged to warn you, they'll be trying to teach your children to, "talk with their mouths full", which is after all, a behaviour you've worked so hard to discourage.

The Vatican is its own country, and a rich one at that. It got that way, from hundreds of millions of fools throughout the ages, trying to buy their way into "heaven"..

[SIZE=6] “Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”
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― George Carlin
 

Reachable

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https://bibleview.org/en/bible/genesis/7days/ With day four being the creation of Stars, Sun, and Moon, I am not able to agree.
The Bible was never expected to be taken literally. Religious fanatics take it literally. Anti-religious fanatics take it literally. For example, one of the four gospels tells a different story than the other three. Did somebody screw up? No. Historical verity wasn't the intent.

The story goes that the creator made the world in six days and then rested on the seventh. The whole point in making that tale sacred scripture was to get YOU to take a day off. It's still a good idea, so if somebody who's attached to their religion wants to update the story with the more sophisticated knowledge of astronomy then I'm not going to get too upset.

The actual idea of creating a History with verifiable evidence is very new. In fact it corresponds with the invention of photography. Before that, the past was only recounted in stories. Memory is fuzzy. The wind, the weather and the passage of time obliterate what came before. The purpose of stories was just to teach lessons. Really, when people argue about whether the chronology in the Bible is true or not, both sides look really silly.
 

Nightfire

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YouTube does not give a damn about a few people believing the Earth is flat. The videos are harmless and they know it. It is simply a sinister vessel to bury the videos that they think are actually dangerous.

Computing Forever states it well.

 
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wiyosaya

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The Bible was never expected to be taken literally. Religious fanatics take it literally. Anti-religious fanatics take it literally. For example, one of the four gospels tells a different story than the other three. Did somebody screw up? No. Historical verity wasn't the intent.
I agree that verity, as you put it, was not the intent. The main reason that I agree is that it is widely thought that the new testament was written approximately 100-years after the life of the man history calls Jesus. In those 100-years, the story is sure to have changed considerably - especially in light of simple experiments such as gathering together several people in a circle and one person whispering a message in the ear of the person next to them, and so on. The message usually changes, sometimes significantly, when the last person repeats it at the end.

The story goes that the creator made the world in six days and then rested on the seventh. The whole point in making that tale sacred scripture was to get YOU to take a day off. It's still a good idea, so if somebody who's attached to their religion wants to update the story with the more sophisticated knowledge of astronomy then I'm not going to get too upset.
That interpretation is your interpretation - which is your prerogative, however, how you interpret it and how others interpret the passage varies as do interpretations of most bible passages.

Complexity is inherent in interpretations of the bible because translations vary based on who translated it and the basis language for the translation. I know someone who has worked for years translating the bible.

Part of the reason that it gets complicated is that persons contemporary to any time tend to describe anything that is not understood (and therefore may seem magical or unbelievable) with analogies to items with which they are familiar. So for someone from a different time period, understanding exactly what was intended by a particular passage can be a challenging task since that task is, essentially, interpretation of another person's word.

In reality, no historical event is necessarily recorded accurately because they have been recorded by humans. What happened beyond written history is, at best, difficult to validate for anyone simply because it cannot be observed.

Even the scientific version of planetary formation, as I am sure you know, is considered a theory. Science does not hold that theory as rigid and unchangeable. The current theory is the best that science has so far produced and it is supported by observational data; however, at any point in the future, that theory may change.

That the bible, whatever the version, is held rigidly by some is hard to reconcile with theories of science that have been validated by evidence, IMO.

The actual idea of creating a History with verifiable evidence is very new. In fact it corresponds with the invention of photography. Before that, the past was only recounted in stories. Memory is fuzzy. The wind, the weather and the passage of time obliterate what came before. The purpose of stories was just to teach lessons. Really, when people argue about whether the chronology in the Bible is true or not, both sides look really silly.
Thanks for sharing your opinion!
 
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Nightfire

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The biggest problem with the internet is that it allows stupidity to grow via networking.
The internet has allowed information to come out that that was previously buried from the public by the mainstream news and Holly wood.

The lack of information is more dangerous than a spread of false information by a few.

Case in point: prior to graduating high school, I knew of no other genocide other than the holocaust. Only rescently did I learn what the halohador and others. Other true events have been buried such as the Northeast project, CIA involvement with "Syrian rebels", and the sinkinking of a ship that drew America into WW1 as well. More recently, the narrative of Covington and Jussie whoever may have been spun different if it wasn't for Alternative media help.

I will gladly swipe through a few crazy theories on order to learn about things that really matter and are often hidden from us.
 
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captaincranky

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The jumping spider is not so large -
From Wiki:

"Tarantulas comprise a group of large and often hairy arachnids belonging to theTheraphosidae family of spiders, of which about 900 species have been identified. This article only describes members of the Theraphosidae, although some other members of the same infraorder (Mygalomorphae) are commonly referred to as "tarantulas".

Tarantula sizes range from as small as a fingernail to as large as a dinner plate when the legs are fully extended. Depending on the species, the body length of tarantulas ranges from 2.5 to 10 cm (1 to 4 in), with leg spans of 8–30-centimetre (3–12 in). Leg span is determined by measuring from the tip of the back leg to the tip of the front leg on the opposite sid

Reasoning that the hair on the jumping spider, and the size range of tarantulas might indicate a genealogical connection, I pursued that line of "reasoning". Boy, was I ever wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_spider Jumping spiders are a group of spiders that constitute the family Salticidae However, that's just as humorous, since the Spanish verb "to jump", is "saltar". (Ostensibly that traces back to Latin as well The same infinitive in Latin would likely be "saltare'").
 
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wiyosaya

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From Wiki:

"Tarantulas comprise a group of large and often hairy arachnids belonging to theTheraphosidae family of spiders, of which about 900 species have been identified. This article only describes members of the Theraphosidae, although some other members of the same infraorder (Mygalomorphae) are commonly referred to as "tarantulas".

Tarantula sizes range from as small as a fingernail to as large as a dinner plate when the legs are fully extended. Depending on the species, the body length of tarantulas ranges from 2.5 to 10 cm (1 to 4 in), with leg spans of 8–30-centimetre (3–12 in). Leg span is determined by measuring from the tip of the back leg to the tip of the front leg on the opposite sid

Reasoning that the hair on the jumping spider, and the size range of tarantulas might indicate a genealogical connection, I pursued that line of "reasoning". Boy, was I ever wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_spider Jumping spiders are a group of spiders that constitute the family Salticidae However, that's just as humorous, since the Spanish verb "to jump", is "saltar". (Ostensibly that traces back to Latin as well The same infinitive on Latin would likely be "saltare'").
I never knew tarantulas come in such small packages. Interesting.

Tarantulas are cool! Spiders are cool! Long live spiders! :laughing:
 
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Reachable

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Thanks for sharing your opinion!
I'll take that in the spirit in which it was intended -- passive aggressive I think :laughing:

I should have said "... both sides look really silly if one takes a step back from the fray."

Obviously there were historians before the 19th century. I'm not a scholar, but it's hard to imagine that they were expected to adhere to the standards that historians are expected to adhere to today.
 

captaincranky

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The internet has allowed information to come out that that was previously buried from the public by the mainstream news and Hollywood.
Speaking of false information, "Hollywood" is one word. :rolleyes:(It's OK, I fixed it for you).
The lack of information is more dangerous than a spread of false information by a few.
Hollywood is more guilty of, "distributing facts not in evidence", rather than overtly withholding or distributing falsified evidence. The docudrama "Titanic", is a classic example. Based in actual events, a producer must embellish or add "conversations" which no one but the originals were ever privy to.

Case in point: prior to graduating high school, I knew of no other genocide other than the holocaust. Only rescently did I learn what the halohador and others. Other true events have been buried such as the Northeast project, CIA involvement with "Syrian rebels", and the sinking of a ship that drew America into WW1 as well. More recently, the narrative of Covington and Jussie whoever may have been spun different if it wasn't for Alternative media help.
That particular ship was "the Lusitania" I pulled that from memory, but can't come with what flag it sailed under, where it sunk or anything else. Never mind, here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_RMS_Lusitania

You have missed possibly the largest genocide in the history of man. As you know, Adolf Hitler was a sociopathic monster who killed some 6,000,000 Jews.

What you don't know however, Josef Stalin was to kill, by some estimates, as many as 20,000,000 of his own people during the Communist purge.

If you ever want a completely and intriguingly different take on the allegedly insane despotic Roman Emperor Nero, watch "Secrets of the Dead, The Nero Files". You'll find his "fiddling while Rome burned, was entirely concocted by writers long after his death, along with so many other questionably facts.

As for the rest of human history, they say, "history is written by the victors".

Radical Islamists in training pass through here from time to time. The only historic 'fact' they appear to remember is that, "America was founded by a brutal takeover and theft of land", and the rest of their tirades pivot around that.

However, other empires throughout history were certainly not formed by handing out lollipops to the children, then asking their parents, "would you like to be a part of our lovely empire"?

Look up. "Alexander the Great", Julius Caesar", The Ottoman Turks, The Moors. The list goes on and on.

"These kids today", are preoccupied with their toys, but in more realistic terms, they are subjugated and distracted by them. After all, who wants to be bored by studying world history, when there's CoD to be played. That's sh!t your parents would waste precious time doing.

This is a fun and informative thing I like to do from time to time, and I'm about due for a refresher. Read Wiki's articles on "propaganda":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_propaganda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

By the time you're done, you'll quickly realize that there is no such thing as "truth", and everything your mind ingests, has been spun in one way ot another.

Truth is only possible when seen with your own two eyes, and even at that, it is said that, "eyewitnesses can be terribly unreliable"

I will gladly swipe through a few crazy theories on order to learn about things that really matter and are often hidden from us.
Unfortunately, that can lead to time wasted, "you'll never get back". But what the hell, it's fun anyway.
 
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[SIZE=6] “Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!” [/SIZE]

― George Carlin
Yeah, Carlin's "comedy", was oftentimes edgy enough to make you wriggle around in your seat. He was the first host of "SNL" October 11, 1975
 
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