Perhaps, the daughter of a friend had it 2 weeks before me and she's only 28. Obviously she had chicken pox as a kid, pre-vaccine.
Study blames YouTube for spread of Flat Earth movement
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That's a great comparison as nothing in life is without risk. We simply accept the risks of some things as necessary to do our jobs, live our lifestyles, etc. Electrical fires burn down houses and occasionally kill people but few recommend removing our electrical hookups.
There are actual risks to vaccinations like anything else but the benefits, both individually and through herd immunity, greatly outweigh those very small risks. I recall that certain vaccinations have a roughly 1 in 1 million risk of death, others are lower. You'll note that the low risk of death from chicken pox mentioned above is about 1.5 orders of magnitude higher than that.
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captaincranky
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I'm having a hard time grasping that 28 years of age is pre-vaccine? Speaking for myself, my bout with chicken pox would have been somewhere between 1954 & 1957 (1st & 3rd grade, or thereabouts). So 60+ years ago. I do remember news articles about vaccines for childhood diseases being introduced, but not having young children in school at the time, that news sort of went in one ear, and out the other, and I can't attach a time frame to it..
Say what you want about his policies and personality but I'm pretty sure no scientist has ever suggested Donald Trump doesn't exist
Danny101
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I ran across it. Looked at it for 3 days. It was intriguing indeed.They made good logical and conspiratorial arguments, but that doesn't stack up to the global arguments. Ultimately, I concluded it to be troll science. YouTube can be blamed for many things, but primarily here, the blame lies between the ears and behind the eyes.
captaincranky
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Right. Well, you know what they say, "reality sucks, and then Trump gets elected president" (Or maybe it 's "life sucks and then.....(not sure)).Say what you want about his policies and personality but I'm pretty sure no scientist has ever suggested Donald Trump doesn't exist
captaincranky
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Hey, nobody ever seems to turn away from watching a train wreck either.
In all honesty, I don't see where YouTube has the responsibility to protect people from their own stupidity or gullibility After all, one click of the mouse will get you to another channel..
sushi board
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I think flat earth's relatively harmless. Some people also believe that the earth was created a few thousand years ago.
Danny101
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Some preachers are pushing the 'gap theory' Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. and that Adam and Eve were told to 'replenish' the earth, which suggest an age prior. The 7 days of creation becomes the 7 days of re-creation and repair. They also are partial to the KJV since in their minds it's the most accurate English translation to the ancient texts.I think flat earth's relatively harmless. Some people also believe that the earth was created a few thousand years ago.
captaincranky
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The trashier, more bizarre and banal the concept is, and the more attention it gets, the more likely Madison Avenue is likely to make a commercial out of it;I think flat earth's relatively harmless. Some people also believe that the earth was created a few thousand years ago.
captaincranky
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Every time I even think about the book of Genesis, I get more and more pissed off at mankind's arrogance, egotism, and hubris.
Here's where it really get going:
[1:24] And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures of every kind: cattle and creeping things and wild animals of the earth of every kind." And it was so.
[1:25] God made the wild animals of the earth of every kind, and the cattle of every kind, and everything that creeps upon the ground of every kind. And God saw that it was good.
[1:26] Then God said, "Let us make humankind in our image, according to our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the wild animals of the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth
For all intents and purposes,, man summarily declares himself the apex predator on the planet, at god's request, and in god's image.
cliffordcooley
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Well some do see Trump as a predator to all Americans.
Dominion does not equate to predator.
captaincranky
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Well, you can't really use the term "predator" if you're writing a "sacred text", now can you? Nor can you use it in the midst of claiming you're a demigod
"Dominion", certainly implies and has been implemented as, "the power of life and death over every living thing on the planet", (sadly, including each other).
The truth is,neither you or I have ever worked in a slaughter house, which in actuality, is organized predation.
Still, every time you or I eat a meal with any kind of meat in it, we're predators by proxy.
We have to eat, and we are omnivores, which necessitates predation. This is an animal side of our being, and we are animals, something which we refuse to admit, and choose to ignore.
The natural order of things, even in the plant kingdom, is kill or be killed. Since there are 7,000,000,000 of us, and very few of anything else left in the animal kingdom, I'd say we're doing a bang up job at being the apex predator on earth. In fact, the most successful that has ever existed.
Now, if you can tell me you're an honest to god vegan, I'll let you off the hook.
I was referring to conclusions based on data.
I mentioned doctors in a different paragraph.
cliffordcooley
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Now, if you can tell me you're an honest to god vegan, I'll let you keep me on the hook.Now, if you can tell me you're an honest to god vegan, I'll let you off the hook.
Some people who are sympathetic to both science and religion regard the "seven days" as representing eons or eras. The order of what happened during the seven days is roughly equal to what the modern evidence indicates.
QuantumPhysics
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The biggest problem with the internet is that it allows stupidity to grow via networking.
Pre- *chicken pox* vaccine. <searched internet> Or not, it's been available since 1984! Maybe that vaccine only been recommended more heavily for the past decade or so as that's the age of my kids and I didn't realize a CP vaccine was even available until the pediatrician recommended it.
In Sci-Fi we call that "retconning." Common practice.
Plays D&D.
Rolls 1dEarth.
Lands on E. Africa and Middle East.
Mountain Troll bashes face in.
Dammit! Rolling 1dUranus next time.
A measles vaccine goes back to about 1959 or 1960. I remember a sibling being given it, and it was brand new. The other vaccines came later.
Danny101
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[QUOTE="For all intents and purposes,, man summarily declares himself the apex predator on the planet, at god's request, and in god's image.[/QUOTE]
Whether it be dominion or predator, for good or for ill, man is the apex being on the planet. There is a precedent behind the hubris. Believing the Bible isn't the point here, just dissecting what it teaches. Any verse can be and has been taught out of context. Yes, it does teach that man control his hubris and to be good stewards of the planet.
Whether it be dominion or predator, for good or for ill, man is the apex being on the planet. There is a precedent behind the hubris. Believing the Bible isn't the point here, just dissecting what it teaches. Any verse can be and has been taught out of context. Yes, it does teach that man control his hubris and to be good stewards of the planet.
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