Target and Kmart ban GTA V in Australia due to 'sexual violence'
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cliffordcooley
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I have trouble believing people are so naive as to think good parenting is the fix all. Correcting society as a whole is the fix all. No matter how good people are at parenting, society has a way of superseding their efforts.
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WTF? you people are as bad as the ones that blame Obama for everything. Fox news doesn't cause people to think a certain way, any more than GTA 5 makes kids want to cause violence to women. They just pander to people that already think that way. MSNBC does the same garbage. No logic in your asinine little remark.
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Little by little that is what we will become. Mindless PC drones with ticketing machines on the wall detected the use of a naughty word.
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davislane1
Parenting and the state of the family unit are what give birth to society. What you see in the world today is the net product of Generation X's parenting. Before them, the Baby Boomers. So on and so forth throughout history. Society is the effect, parenting is the cause.
If the profound philosophical abilities of the Millenials are any indication, I suspect GTA will only be the first in a long list of such bans to roll out over the next several years. This assumes, of course, that third wave feminism isn't thoroughly crushed and relegated to the annals of Wikipedia over the same time period.
cliffordcooley
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Which is my point! Not everyone subscribes to the good parenting, which in turn creates a good society. It is a chicken or the egg scenario, of which you are only looking at it one direction. Truth be told society is exactly the way people want it, screwed up (history proves it).
Darth Shiv
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The reason was because of some promo. I think GTA V was next to some Lego and had a "best price guarantee". The women who started the petition saw GTA V vids on youtube where some guys were "beating hookers" and drew the long bow that the game "encouraged" beating women when in fact is doesn't encourage it. It just allows it.
Disclaimer: I've never played GTA - don't really know much about it.
Having said that, on one hand you think personal responsibility. Personally, I would like a world capable of that responsibility. But frankly, we are not. So because there are irresponsible parents, the PC brigade comes along and says "Well this is obviously a problem - if parents were all responsible, it wouldn't be a problem. So instead we are going to make laws to make up for parental or societal deficiency/stupidity."
Don't agree with it. Society should have better education. That would solve a lot more problems and not get to bandaids like this.
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Darth Shiv
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Yes. Valid point. The problem is that there are an enormous amount of bad parents. So your point is mute until you solve that problem first.
cliffordcooley
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lol - Once that problem is solved, would we still have games such as GTA5? OMG, did I say that out loud?
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davislane1
I can only imagine the faux outrage that would accompany the release of Pulp Fiction had it released in 2014 rather than 1994.
captaincranky
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Well, another installment of the "Sin City" franchise, was recently released on Blu-Ray and DVD. Plus, we've had, "Criminal Minds", as a serial fixture on CBS for, I believe, ten years running. Criminals Minds is about the sickest minds on the planet, who entertain serial killing as an avocation, and contains some of the most sadistic violence ever, yet it returns every year. (They may have killed it this year with the Addition of Jennifer Love Hewitt to the cast. Her big behind, and particularly her flat affect in acting, murdered my enthusiasm for the show, so to speak).
But with any TV show or movie, the violence isn't interactive. You can't pick up a controller and start blasting cast members with an Uzi, or run them over with a beemer. Even though, as in the case of Ms. Hewitt, you feel it might be warranted.
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davislane1
But doesn't Sin City have a few chicks who murderize wave after wave of henchmen? Having not seen the films, I can only assume the women shown in the previews were Social Justice compliant. As for TV... I practically never watch TV, outside of Netflicks. All of this is news to me. Even so, CBS is not We or Oxygen or HGTV or TLC. How many SJWs watch CBS? For Christ's sake, CBS broadcasts the
But with any TV show or movie, the violence isn't interactive. You can't pick up a controller and start blasting cast members with an Uzi, or run them over with a beemer. Even though, as in the case of Ms. Hewitt, you feel it might be warranted.
Which makes it an even more powerful form of brain washing. What do you think is more likely to cause a young male to act violent towards Women™: simulating violence in a game, or conditioning him to solve problems by shoving a gun in someone's face and never providing an outlet for the conditioned behavior? Games create dysfunctional adolescents. Television creates time bombs.
I only wish TS allowed more HTML coding in the comments so I could communicate how strongly I feel about this by making the word "feel" sparkle and strobe.
captaincranky
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Which in turn would cause you to be immediately branded as Helen Gurley Brown's lesbian, illegitimate, bi-racial step daughter, currently attending an all women's college, and maintaining a healthy 2.4 GPA. Una zorra libre in the upper crust hen house, ("casa be pollitas", (pronounced "pole-yitas")), as it were.
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captaincranky
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Unfortunately, the precipice after that, is the world of, "Judge Dred". Sylvester Stallone will be branded a, "visionary", ( having starred in both "Demolition Man", and "Judge Dred"), right before one of his disciples caps you in the forehead for spitting on the sidewalk.
The last thing you'll see on this earth, is a mural of Sly, (one of thousands city wide), painted by "lesser criminals", while serving out community service sentences.
St1ckM4n
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In this case, the government has nothing to do with it. It's just Target (and the parent company, who owns the Kmart stores too) responding to the PR nightmare that was the campaign going 40K+ signatures.
I think it's only been around 2 years though since we got an R18+
captaincranky
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Xclusiveitalian
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Political correctness will be the downfall of modern society.
captaincranky
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Dude, wake up! It already has been.
Darth Shiv
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Yes not a great fan of the PC everywhere. Can understand minorities being quite sensitive and in some cases sure they are still being wronged but for me it should be about intent.
If someone is absolutely obsessed about something from their past, and are oversensitive to it from ppl who didn't intend to offend them that way, that's bad on two counts. They are letting that define them and they are taking it out on ppl who meant no such offense. That's when I struggle to have time for the PC brigade.
The thing is that the people against the game dont have a fundamental understanding of what it is; a make-believe, satiric GAME thats supposed to be for ADULTS. And that the game does not specifically encourage violence against women but against all people. the player CHOOSES how to play and if the player chooses to attack women specifically instead of just anyone else, thats his/her problem, not something the game taught them.
Dont buy the game. boycott it, warn your friends against it, dont buy the game for children you dinguses, and rebel against it, I dont care-but dont spoil it for people who actually understand what it is.
Dont buy the game. boycott it, warn your friends against it, dont buy the game for children you dinguses, and rebel against it, I dont care-but dont spoil it for people who actually understand what it is.
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davislane1
In defense of the Protestants, American society has since descended into a state of relative decadence.
The difference between the Rock is a Product of the Devil people and the SJWs is that the former didn't know what they were talking about. SJWs actually invent things to be offended by. Sex, drugs, and nihilism is part of rock & roll culture. Misogyny on the part of Rockstar Games is quite literally an invention.
captaincranky
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Well, people need a common enemy, it's the glue holding any society together.
We had the Russians to hate, and the "cold war", with which to channel that animosity.
George Orwell's "1984", has a perpetual war with, "Eurasia" in progress. (Incidentally "1984" was the year we elected Ronald Regan as president).
The music of four decades ago was viewed as subversive, yet it preached peace, love, and equality. The Jefferson Airplane were the first pop act to drop "the F bomb" on a record. Their famous line, "up against the wall, mother f****r, was in protest to the pervasive, "stop and frisk whoever you like, whenever you like", pervasive police policies of the day.
In hindsight, that, "one small step for rock music, one giant leap against censorship", unfortunately led to the overwhelmingly racist, violent, and profane "hip-hop" music of the present. IMHO, music has worsened race relations in the US, more than any other force or influence.
Quite frankly, music is still the "boogeyman", and it has done contemporary society irreparable harm.
I believe that somewhere in Plato's, "Republic", he warns that, "enemies of the state will try to subvert the youth through music", (Loosely quoted, as I'm not up for a 500+ page fact check for the sake of this post, sorry).
In any event, army special forces teams, and the like, (as one such member related to me), needed to have a special characterization afforded to them by the MMPI (psych eval test), and that was, "true sociopaths who liked to operate as a group". Before that, sociopathy was viewed as an individual, "sport".
It really isn't a question that video gaming creates aggression, but it seems to channel it as well, combined with a healthy outlet for it. Those who believe it should cross over into real life, should investigate the possibility of a career as a Navy Seal, or Delta Force team member. "The Army Wants You", or so the recruiting poster says.
Unless of course, you're a 90 pound internet geek, with social integration issues already severe enough to be considering blowing up your high school and killing everybody in it. Then by all means, nobody should sell you violent video games. My question is, "how the heck would you check for that in advance"?
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