Then try to write what you know. You wrote like AVX-512 is similar to SSE2 (very few reasons not to use SSE2 if it's supported) so that you will use it if software supports it.
Facepalm, you really have completely misunderstood me and where I am coming from. No I am not advocating AVX512, and I am clearly stating why I DON'T think it will ever take off. You are basically cherry picking 2 paragraphs of my post and ignoring the rest (as in my statement as a whole). What my entire post says, and how I feel is, that AVX512 is unimportant, and I don't think software support will come, and I don't believe it is a silver bullet and it will likely never ever be, but I can't say for certain that is what will happen, and neither can YOU. So I am leaving the door open with a "who knows". I am being reasonable and unbiased, I am stating how I feel on the matter (that AVX512 is useless to the majority of us, and likely always will be), while accepting I could be wrong (as in sometime in the future things could change). I am being incredibly reasonable by admitting I can't predict what will happen in my original post.
You instead are BIASED and UNREASONABLE. You misunderstood my post in its entirety and you completely and utterly read it the wrong way. And you come off as a fanboy to me. But I play it safe, and I say I don't think so, but maybe, who knows? You come of as desperate for me to declare that I retract my statement that AVX512 will absolutely be used in the future, when I said nothing of the kind, and I in fact believe the OPPOSITE, but I accept that I COULD be wrong about its adoption (even though I DON'T believe it will be). But here you are saying that it will never ever be used at all either. You are the only unreasonable person here, and you are an outright hypocrite.
I never claimed AVX512 would be absolutely be used, in fact I stated numerous times that I doubt it would be. You just cant read, and you are a hypocrite by saying you know the future better than anyone else, what makes your opinion/guess better than mine or anybody? And you are so blinded by fanboy behavior to see our opinions actually fall in line (we AGREE with each other you fanboy), but I am reasonable enough to admit I cant predict the future and I could be wrong about AVX512 never taking off, I am REASONABLE, YOU ARE NOT. That is the difference between us, and that is why you can't even RECOGNIZE a reasonable man, because YOU are NOT a REASONABLE MAN yourself. You misjudged me and had a fanboy fit.
Let me go over some of my post that you outright ignored in your fanboisim/bias/blindness:
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I am just stating my own personal position on AVX-512, and why I feel like it is decidedly unexciting and a non-starter as it stands today, and for a good few years, till if/when the software I use (and most people use) actually makes use of it. "
See the "if/when" line? That "if" is meant as "if ever", and that is how I feel. My position is "if" and the guy my post was a reply for is the "when". I am representing all sides of the discussion, his view point, and mine. He says "when", and I say "if". Get it now? You have completely ignored the fact that my post is a reply to someone else, I am talking to him. And if you read through my entire post, I clearly use "if/when" multiple times. You are just cherry picking from my post and ignoring the rest. I don't think AVX512 will ever get widespread support, but I don't know. So I am just playing it safe and saying, maybe, who knows? I am the if, and the guy I am replying to is the when. Simple. He is saying that AVX512 will knock AMD down a notch, and I am clearly stating my case of why I DON'T think that is the case. I am making a case AGAINST AVX512 you dodo head, not a case for it.
And this part of my post:
" If AVX-512 has no benefit to me in my workflow (or games), then it means nothing to me. I would rather make my purchasing choice off of what actually makes a difference to me, not off a feature that makes no difference. But who knows? We'll see. "
What do you think I mean by that? That is my personal opinion, that is how I feel. Support wont come (obviously), and if it did, I know the software I use will never ever need it, but I also have to say that who knows? Because even though AVX512 is useless to me, I can't say that for everyone (obviously), so I have to mention those people who might make us of it as well (however small that group is). And I obviously meant "who knows, well see" as in, I don't think or believe it will ever be adopted widely, but I cant say that for certain. You just cant blooming read, you come across as a hypocrite and a fanboy to me. I have a very low opinion of you as it stands right now, and that is YOUR fault. I am reasonable, and you are acting like an unreasonable child/fanboy. Your fault.
I am clearly stating in original post what I believe will be required for AVX512 to become useful. And that would be widespread adoption by software that the majority use, and that is not likely to happen (as in I don't believe it will, because of obvious reasons), but I cant predict the future, so I leave a "who knows" in there to cover myself. The point of my post was to state what would be required for it to be anything beyond useless, not to state that it will become useful, you misunderstood me.
But I am just trying my best not to upset anyone. And by doing my best in trying not to upset anyone, then you get upset. Ever heard of irony? And I am a 3700X/570X owner, just in case you haven't seen my older posts (because you clearly haven't).
I am just playing politician here, I am covering all my bases and trying not to upset anyone, while still saying what I feel on the matter, all without upsetting anyone. Clearly some people get upset a lot easier than others. Because some people clearly cant read and are hypocrites and fanboys. That is what I think of you right now, that is your attitude that has made me see you that way.
And I am just guessing when it comes to anything when it concerns the future, but I am just covering all bases with my guesses as well, play it safe. I am guessing that it will remain a useless instructions set to most of us, but I cant say that for certain, and that is a very reasonable stance in my opinion, I see absolutely nothing wrong wrong that.
And also this part of my post:
" And if/when by the time AVX512 is widely adopted, Ryzen will likely support it as well. And that is when I will consider it, once it is widely adopted and actually benefits my everyday workflow. "
What I am saying here is, if it were so important, AMD would adopt it as well. And as I am a Ryzen user, I would just purchase a Ryzen CPU, and that would only even be a deciding factor in my purchase if any of my software even actually supported it (which I have already made clear, I don't believe ever will, because I know my workflow, but who knows? Because no one knows for certain, so I have to be honest and admit that).
You just seem to have only read certain parts of my post and you then took them out of context, you did not put the whole post together as a whole to try to understand exactly what I meant, or where I am coming from. So next time if you don't know where I am coming from (because you clearly don't) then ask me and I will clarify my position/opinion for you.
But don't just attack me, because that p's me off. So ask me for clarification, before you assume that you understand my stance, because you misunderstood my post entirely. I am a reasonable man, and I make reasonable stances. I am doing my best to cover all possibilities and impart no bias towards one vendor without speaking for the other as well.
In other words, I am stating my opinion but I am also stating what the guy whos post I first responded to opinion was and accepting his opinion as well. Get it? I am stating I don't think AVX512 will ever be important, but I am also accepting that I could be wrong, because I cant predict the future. So read my entire post correctly next time, and if you don't understand my position or what I meant, than ask me like an adult will you. Don't just pull certain paragraphs from my post while utterly ignoring all the rest (which in turn ignores my position as a whole). You made the mistake, not me.
You are also forgetting that my original post was a direct response to a specific person, so my post is related to his viewpoint, and my response to his viewpoint. And if you read my post correctly (and in its entirety) and with that understanding, then you would understand how I feel on the matter (that AVX512 will never get anywhere), but I am still accepting that the other guy might be right (that maybe it will get more support) so I could be wrong. You have just completely and utterly misunderstood everything I meant, and took everything out of context, including who I was responding to in the first place.
Because when you attack me the way you do, all I see is a bloody fanboy, and I hate fanboys of all kinds. Fanboy behavior and attitude is despicable and makes whoever they support just look bad. So stop it. So see what happens? I veiw you poorly now, and actually make the brand you are supporting look bad to me, because you are a supporter of it. And if that is AMD or Intel it does not matter, you lower my view on their respective supporters. And if you claim to not be a fanboy, then I don't believe you, because you behave as one.
See the problem here? So behave correctly and treat me correctly. Because even though I am an AMD supporter, I have no ill will towards those who support Intel personally. I may not like Intel as a company, and I will never support their products again myself, but I don't hate people for choosing Intel, that would be nasty, stupid and childish. I dislike Intel as a company for obvious reasons (hence I will never purchase their products again), but I have no hate towards my fellow man for doing what makes them happy. I am very reasonable, unlike my impressions of you so far.