The RTX 5090 uses Nvidia's biggest die since the RTX 2080 Ti

[Burty117]

And later in 2025, AMD will release their top-tier gaming rdna5/HBM cards, based on custom chiplet designed for Professional gamers and creators. (Custom chiplets $1,500~$2,500)

Where are you getting that from? AMD confirmed RDNA5 is multiple years away and a whole new architecture, that was 9 months ago, the latest insider knowledge is that RDNA 5 hasn't been in development for a while and is being superseeded by a new UDMA architecture, with timeframes showing the earliest of Q2 2026.

Not only would I be suprised to see RDNA 5 high end cards in the second half of 2025, I just want to know where you got your infomation from?

 

[godrilla]

After INTEL’s latest release of GPUs, I beg to differ. They will own the lower and mid range sectors

Hopefully, 1st batch is sold out. Shows how desperate the market is starving for a 3rd player and is willing to give Intel a chance.

 

[m3tavision]

Where are you getting that from? AMD confirmed RDNA5 is multiple years away and a whole new architecture, that was 9 months ago, the latest insider knowledge is that RDNA 5 hasn't been in development for a while and is being superseeded by a new UDMA architecture, with timeframes showing the earliest of Q2 2026.

Not only would I be suprised to see RDNA 5 high end cards in the second half of 2025, I just want to know where you got your infomation from?

Hunh..?
I am getting it from Dr Lisa Su, AMD's CEO. They announced that RDNA4 is for 1440p and will sit under the current 7900XTX. In early 2025 you will be able to buy a 4080 equivalent 8800xt @ $550 power by an efficient rdna4 architecture.

In Contrast, the XTX used a 1st ever chiplet design (navi 31) and was a success. It was a use-case scenario that proved to work well and now AMD will dbl-dwn on that in a big way. They will piggyback off their Radeon PRO cards that will be using chiplets for Enterprize and just make custom design for different gaming niches.

AMD announced that CDNA & RDNA are merging to XDNA and we will see one of those high-end gaming cards not too long after the 5090 is actually in stores (sept~oct 25?).


Dr Su is a genius and understand the game can be played both ways.
AMD now knows if lemmings are fooled enough to pay $3k for a pseudo gaming card that use non-gaming architecture for Content Creation & marketed the cutdown card to gamers... THEN AMD can take one of their Pro Chiplet cards/wHBM and just drop 100% RDNA(now XDNA) components on it and/or make custom design cards with different/specific chiplets for more raster, or tensor farm, etc.

XDNA for gaming is coming... (Nov 25?)

 

[Burty117]

Hunh..?
I am getting it from Dr Lisa Su, AMD's CEO. They announced that RDNA4 is for 1440p and will sit under the current 7900XTX. In early 2025 you will be able to buy a 4080 equivalent 8800xt @ $550 power by an efficient rdna4 architecture.

Right... But you said:

And later in 2025, AMD will release their top-tier gaming rdna5/HBM cards, based on custom chiplet designed for Professional gamers and creators. (Custom chiplets $1,500~$2,500)

Being below a 7900XTX and apparently as good as a 4080, how is that "top-tier"? It's still slower than the last gen 4090? Which is by all definitions, a top-tier card?

Or are you just judging by AMD standards? Even then, how is it a top-tier card if it's slower than the last gen top-tier card?

Do you mean "medium-tier", good value card"?

 

[m3tavision]

Right... But you said:

Being below a 7900XTX and apparently as good as a 4080, how is that "top-tier"? It's still slower than the last gen 4090? Which is by all definitions, a top-tier card?

Or are you just judging by AMD standards? Even then, how is it a top-tier card if it's slower than the last gen top-tier card?

Do you mean "medium-tier", good value card"?

No, I did not say that^.
Top tier currently for AMD is the Navi 31 (ie 7900XTX) and Top tier for nVidia is 4090.

AMD's next generation of 8000 series GPUs coming out soon (rdna4), and they will be AMD's mid-tier cards fully targeting 1440p native. These new rdna4 chips are much more efficient than previous rdna3 packaging and being a smaller single die, rdna4 will be marketed as mid-tier... yet, using more advanced architecture, it's single die will still almost equal AMD's 2 year old top-tier Chiplet design (Navi31), in Gaming power.

Do you understand...?


So Yes..!
AMD's new $550 GPU coming out, will roughly equal AMD's recently discontinued 7900GRE..!


AMD has yet to officially announce their new top-tier cards, only that they are not calling them rdna5 anymore and will be using a variant of AMD's already existing XDNA2's architecture & that AMD's top-tier gaming card will continue to use chiplet design, like the XTX.

 

[Burty117]

No, I did not say that^.

I literally quoted you...

Top tier currently for AMD is the Navi 31 (ie 7900XTX) and Top tier for nVidia is 4090.

AMD's next generation of 8000 series GPUs coming out soon (rdna4), and they will be AMD's mid-tier cards fully targeting 1440p native.

So you're moving the goal posts and changing your original statement? Which, I guess I'll quote again:

And later in 2025, AMD will release their top-tier gaming rdna5/HBM cards...

That right there, that's all I wanted to know, where you're getting the infomation that AMD are releasing a "top-tier" card in 2025.
I can't find anything other than rumors about a potential 2026 release and most news articles out there say RDNA 5 has been cancelled and AMD are prioritising uDNA instead.
So where are you getting "RDNA 5 in 2025" from?

 

[m3tavision]

I literally quoted you...
So you're moving the goal posts and changing your original statement? Which, I guess I'll quote again:
That right there, that's all I wanted to know, where you're getting the infomation that AMD are releasing a "top-tier" card in 2025.
I can't find anything other than rumors about a potential 2026 release and most news articles out there say RDNA 5 has been cancelled and AMD are prioritising uDNA instead.
So where are you getting "RDNA 5 in 2025" from?

No my friend, you did not quote me, you put words into my mouth.

I had realized that you did NOT understand that AMD's top-tier cards use chiplets, while their mid-tier cards use monolithic single designs (I hope the picture helped).


Secondly,
This has been known for a long time and it seems you are on the right track in understanding AMD's strategy. In your own article:

"A reliable leak from the Chiphell forums, shared by user zhangzhonghao, reveals that AMD will cancel RDNA 5 in favor of UDNA.

The new architecture will be featured in the upcoming RX 9000 series GPUs and the Instinct MI400 AI accelerators. UDNA uses a consistent Arithmetic Logic Unit (ALU) design similar to AMD’s earlier Graphics Core Next (GCN) architecture before RDNA and CDNA split in 2019. This unification is set to streamline AMD’s GPU roadmap, allowing the company to allocate resources more effectively and focus on developing high-end GPUs. The first UDNA-based gaming GPUs are expected to start production in the second quarter of 2026, while RDNA 4 will target entry-level to mid-range markets."

So again^,
We already know that the next top-tier Gaming cards from AMD will feature Chiplet design with HBM. We have known this for for many months that rdna5 is dead in favor of unified architecture and sharing PRO cards packaging & design. (per your own article)



In recent speculation, Industry Insiders are trying to figure out how closely Dr Lisa Su was holding her cards with that space and with the announcement of the RTX 5090 being bumped up by 5 months to try and steal the high-end gaming market.

AMD hinted that high-end Gamers will not have to wait too long after rdna4 releases, to get a hold of the most powerful gaming cards in the world. (mocking nVidia's Blackwell for gaming)


So what is "Not too long"..?

Do you think AMD is going to let all those people waste their hard earned $$ on nVidi'as non-gaming products (blackwell), or should AMD have their elite gaming cards ready, showcasing what custom chiplets can do, (while leveraging the economy of scale of chiplets), making a mockery of NVidia's commitment to gaming, ovr lucrative AI.

Best guess is 7 months after rdna4 is released (ie later this year)

 

[Burty117]

Best guess is 7 months after rdna4 is released (ie later this year)

Ah, okay, so there's no evidence, nothing you can link me, no rumors, just your personal best guess.

Got it.

For future reference, you probably shouldn't declare things as fact when you've made them up in your own head, before you try and argue this, re-read your own comment, I've quoted below for your convenience:

And later in 2025, AMD will release their top-tier gaming rdna5/HBM cards...

 

[m3tavision]

For future reference, you probably shouldn't declare things as fact when you've made them up in your own head, before you try and argue this, re-read your own comment, I've quoted below for your convenience:

lol^
No, You did not know any of this and now you are pretending to know it AMD's roadmap. Clearly you knew I was referencing rdna5 chiplet design, not actual cancelled architecture. You were just mad at me for providing AMD's top-tier roadmap, thinking their new rdna4 GPU's were replacing top-tier cards like the XTX.

I said :
As mentioned, early next year AMD will be releasing their mid tier (rdna4) Gaming cards. And later in 2025, AMD will release their top-tier gaming rdna5/HBM cards, based on custom chiplet designed for Professional gamers and creators. (Custom chiplets $1,500~$2,500)


You do understand that "rdna5" is synonymous with CHIPLET design (as opposed to rdna4 being a monolithic design)... and even though EVERYONE knows that rdna5 was cancelled, I was speaking about the chiplet design of rdna5 which has not changed & mentioned that the new custom chiplet will use HBM memory.

So you went from not knowing.. to understanding that AMD is going to use a custom gaming chiplet design using HBM, based off the soon-to-be-released PRO cards.

And without knowing any of this, you had made declarations that "rdna5" is some 13 months away in 2026...


How long is it before the $3,500 RTX5090 drops?

 

[Burty117]

lol^
No, You did not know any of this and now you are pretending to know it AMD's roadmap. Clearly you knew I was referencing rdna5 chiplet design, not actual cancelled architecture. You were just mad at me for providing AMD's top-tier roadmap, thinking their new rdna4 GPU's were replacing top-tier cards like the XTX.

I said :
As mentioned, early next year AMD will be releasing their mid tier (rdna4) Gaming cards. And later in 2025, AMD will release their top-tier gaming rdna5/HBM cards, based on custom chiplet designed for Professional gamers and creators. (Custom chiplets $1,500~$2,500)


You do understand that "rdna5" is synonymous with CHIPLET design (as opposed to rdna4 being a monolithic design)... and even though EVERYONE knows that rdna5 was cancelled, I was speaking about the chiplet design of rdna5 which has not changed & mentioned that the new custom chiplet will use HBM memory.

So you went from not knowing.. to understanding that AMD is going to use a custom gaming chiplet design using HBM, based off the soon-to-be-released PRO cards.

And without knowing any of this, you had made declarations that "rdna5" is some 13 months away in 2026...


How long is it before the $3,500 RTX5090 drops?

Look, I can't tell if you're a human or not, I don't care about the chiplet design, I don't care about monolithic designs, I don't care what "everyone" knows.

I just want you to answer me how you apparently know "top tier" "RDNA 5" GPU's are coming out in 2025.

I cannot find any evidence of this online, RDNA 5 appears to be dead and replaced with uDNA.
Yet you're insisting some "top tier" "RDNA 5" GPU is coming out in 2025.

So I will ask again, can you please link me an article, a rumor on Reddit, literally anything to backup your claims RDNA 5 "top tier" gaming GPU is coming in 2025 from AMD?

 

[captaincranky]

Hopefully, 1st batch is sold out. Shows how desperate the market is starving for a 3rd player and is willing to give Intel a chance.

Their "A" series cards were mostly a disaster. However, the new B580 "Battlemage". is getting quite promising reviews.

GamersNexus is quite enthusiastic about it. They don't really pull many punches with respect to any device's performance, good or bad.

I don't even game, and I'll still sit there for an hour or more, just to listen to Steve rant.

However, "rumor has it", (not sure where that came from), that Intel was threatening (?) to abandon VGA development. To which I say, "that sucks, just when the were getting it right. Here's the link, assuming you have 41+ minutes to spare:

 

[m3tavision]

Look, I can't tell if you're a human or not, I don't care about the chiplet design, I don't care about monolithic designs, I don't care what "everyone" knows.

I just want you to answer me how you apparently know "top tier" "RDNA 5" GPU's are coming out in 2025.

I cannot find any evidence of this online, RDNA 5 appears to be dead and replaced with uDNA.
Yet you're insisting some "top tier" "RDNA 5" GPU is coming out in 2025.

So I will ask again, can you please link me an article, a rumor on Reddit, literally anything to backup your claims RDNA 5 "top tier" gaming GPU is coming in 2025 from AMD?

Correct, (Only a bot would consistently and purposely take things out of context, after having it explained to them ovr a month ago.)

From one month ago:
As mentioned, early next year AMD will be releasing their mid tier (rdna4) Gaming cards. And later in 2025, AMD will release their top-tier gaming rdna5/HBM cards, based on custom chiplet designed for Professional gamers and creators. (Custom chiplets $1,500~$2,500)

(Do you understand the meaning of rdna 5/HBM reference? ).

Nobody here is referencing rdna5 as an actual architecture here. It's been a month today and you keep referencing rdna5 as an actual architecture coming out, when EVERYONE (including you) knows that AMD cancelled rdna5 6 months ago. But AMD didn't cancel their top-teir rdna5 chiplet design, only that it will NOT being using rdna5 architecture, but an unannounced XDNA uArch and also be using HBM. (No current AMD gaming card currently uses HBM memory).

I am so happy you now know all of this^


After re-reading your response above, I had realized that you do not care about chiplets and therefore missed out on the top-teir narrative and were focused 100% on rdna5 replacing rdna4 without understand product stack.

 

[Burty117]

After re-reading your response above, I had realized that you do not care about chiplets and therefore missed out on the top-teir narrative...

So I will ask again, can you link me to any shred of evidence, of these top-tier GPU's being released in 2025? I don't care what they're called, I don't care what architecture they use, I don't care if they use Chiplet designs, I don't care about anything other than:

Where did you get the information that AMD are releasing "Top Tier" GPU's in 2025?