US Senate passes CHIPS Act to boost domestic semiconductor manufacturing as relations...

[captaincranky]

This government is such rubbish. This is supreme anti-competitive. Intel could not propperly manufacture and compete with TSMC and just giving them more money will not necessarily change that. They have incompetent engineers, money don't change that.

OK, IMO, the far right wing of the present US government is rubbish. Specifically, Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, Ron DiSantis, and Trump's three supreme court appointments are uber garbage. Plus, there's the pedophile Matt Gaetz to consider..

Beyond that, everything you've posted is dead wrong.

I see you're not really up on current events. TSMC is, at present, building a fab in the US. Which further locks the US into the possibility of a hot war with the CCP, should they decide to invade Taiwan.

In fact, either this Wednesday or Thursday, on a two hour phone call with the "president" of China, Joe Biden was warned that, "those that live by the fire, will die by the fire", in reference to the US' continued support of Taiwan, militarily or otherwise.

This also gives Intel an unfair advantage over AMD. This world is just so corrupt. This has nothing to do with helping the USA, it is just about buddies helping buddies. One day all this evil will come back to bite the US. You vote for this rubbish, you will reap the reward!

Well, AMD, at present, has the "unfair advantage" over Intel, since all of their current successes, have been achieved by riding TSMC's coattails

For those of us that didn't know, AMD sold their fabs years ago. Which makes AMD nothing more than a "semiconductor design firm", that is completely dependent on a foreign companies(s) to put a single item on the shelves.... Full stop.

 

[Alfatawi Mendel]

Taxpayers dollars subsidise already wealthy corporations. Isn't this communism?

 

[captaincranky]

It's not odd when you realize this isn't a $52B bill to subsidize US semiconductor production. In true Democrat fashion, it's $280 billion of pork with the CHIPS measure thrown in.

Well hopefully, Texas will pass its referendum to secede from the US, and we won't have to deal with Ted Cruz anymore.

Not to mention the fact I'm sure that the Republicans that voted "aye" to this bill, will get more than their fair share of pork from it.

It's rather cute, predictable, and convenient, for you to blame it all on Democrats, but I daresay, it's stretching the truth quite a bit.

As for "fist pump dude", (Hawley), the video of him riling up the mob at the Capitol, then having to run away from them, was funny as hell.

 

[captaincranky]

Taxpayers dollars subsidise already wealthy corporations. Isn't this communism?

Well no. If this was true communism, the state would already own the "wealthy corporations", or at the very least have near total control over them. Hence there would be no public vote, and your taxes would simply go there

 

[JohnnyStone]

It is anti-competitive. It is, however far less anti-competitive than the lavish subsidies and other government aid that nations like Taiwan and especially China grant semiconductor firms.

When TSMC builds a new semi fab, the Taiwanese government pays half the cost of the land, and 25% of the cost of the equipment. TSMC also pays a lower tax rate, a lower labor rate, and doesn't have to deal with the bewildering melange of EPA, OSHA, and other regulations that Intel does.

So you're perfectly fine with a genocidal communistic dictatorship like China controlling the world semiconductor industry, just as they already control steel, rare earths, shipping, and many others?

The problem is that Intel will not only benefit with its manufacturing, but especially with its chips, more specifically CPU's. A company like AMD has no chance to compete with Intel when the government gives so much money to Intel and nothing to AMD. It is a case of buddy helping buddy. The relationship of Intel with the government is well known.

 

[captaincranky]

The problem is that Intel will not only benefit with its manufacturing, but especially with its chips, more specifically CPU's. A company like AMD has no chance to compete with Intel when the government gives so much money to Intel and nothing to AMD. It is a case of buddy helping buddy. The relationship of Intel with the government is well known.

You're not making any sense. Why should the government give any money To AMD to build fabs, when AMD has no plans, (AFAIK), to build any? AMD is wedded to TSMC, TSMC is in Taiwan, and the US may have to go to war to protect them.

It doesn't matter if Intel "benefits in other ways" from this money. They are building fabs, AMD isn't.

Are you afraid that Intel will go back to making better chips than AMD? (They did that for about a decade). Oh wait, judging by recent reviews, they already have.

So, cease and desist from the poor AMD stories, and go back to bad mouthing Intel's power consumption.

"The relationship of Intel with the government is well known".

As is the relationship of the government with Lockheed-Martin, Raytheon, and a host of other contractors, mostly because they get the job done. How come you'\re not up in arms about that?