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IF you want to diagnose the second router exactly, configure it as a Single Router, hook it up to your modem (read the following before you do so) let the ISP give you an IP and configure a pc for troubleshooting. If it all works and you can connect to the internet, then its NOT THE ROUTER!!! You must of made a mistake when you configure the two routers. Double check your configuration.
I have one more idea for that troublesome second router. The way I’ve been telling to configure your router was for a “Cable Modem,” which is a direct connection to your ISP all of the time. You don’t have to “Log In” to your ISP. But this all changes with cretin DSL ISP’s. For example, IF you use a SBC DSL ISP, you will have to “Log On” before you can assess the Internet. After you have log on, you will receive an IP Address from your ISP. This can account for why you WAN Port is not being assign an IP Address (IF THIS ROUTER IS YOUR FIRST ROUTER!). You will have to change the configuration of the WAN Port from “Obtain IP Address Automatically” to “PPPoE,” with this set you will have to fill in your “User Name” and “Password” your ISP gave you. And when you power on you router it will long in for you! AND THEN it will be assigned an “IP Address” to your “WAN Port.”
Also when you reset your router, every thing that you turn off, will be right back on, and every IP you changed, will be reset backup to default.(you should know that!!). So you said that you reset the router several times, because of this, the router IP will be: 192.168.1.1 and the DHCP Server will also be enabled. So you are going to have go to your TCP/IP Properties in Windows, set it to “Obtain an IP Automatically,” that mean, IP from the DHCP Server enabled on your router. So you will need to reboot your PC, and it will be assigned an IP from the router. Now log on to the router, and turn off DHCP Server and change you IP.
Tip Of the Day:
When you change you LAN IP Address from: 192.168.1.1 to: 192.168.247.1 and you click save settings, the Web Page WILL FREZZ, why, because the router is now in a different “Broadcast Domain,” then your Computer, your no longer broadcasting in the Network of: 192.168.1.0 you are now broadcasting in the Network of: 192.168.247.0, so what you need to do, is reconfigure your pc for a Static IP of 192.168.247.2. After you done that, the router and your pc will now be in the SAME Broadcast Domain. REMEMBER, every time you reset the router, your going to have to do the above, unless you want to use the DHCP Server on the router. You can now access your router.
So the configuration of your Router will now be:
WAN Port---PPPoE---IP from ISP
LAN Port---192.168.247.2---255.255.255.0
The “Routing Table” will be the same as before.
Log on to the router and go to the “Status” page and see if the ISP gave you an IP this time, if so, configure your network with what I already gave you!
BEFOR YOU GO ANY FURTHER, lets PING the IP of 192.168.247.2 you should get 4 replies back, do so for the WAN Port (you’ll have to get this info from the status page) also you should receive 4 replies.
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NOTE:
When you set the WAN Port manually, you must have the IP, Subnet Mask, and Default Gateway exactly the way I told you, you also can’t have it out of the IP Address Range, your Host Address can’t be 257, that will be illegal and even though you click on save the setting they wont be, witch will also account for your WAN Port not keeping an IP. Be careful, when you are entering the information!!!
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If it still don’t work, replace the router with a new one or hook that switch you hopefully still got to the router that works and configure your Network Devices.
PS.
Draw a picture of your Network Configuration exactly the way you have it, it will help me see what you might be doing wrong!!!