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Volkswagen reveals the all-electric ID.3 hatchback that'll do up to 340 miles on European...

By Humza · 12 replies
Sep 10, 2019
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  1. VW has been working on its 'I.D.' series of electric cars for a couple of years now. Starting with its I.D. concept car revealed at the Paris Motor Show three years ago, the German automaker later revealed more concepts - namely the Microbus inspired I.D. Buzz, a Cargo delivery van and an e-Bike based on its new brand design language - not to mention its record breaking I.D. R racing car.

    It was also reported that the company had plans to mass produce a sub-$23,000 EV to rival the likes of Tesla and Chevy (Bolt) and earlier this year, it started taking pre-orders (Europe only) for the ID.3 that's now been publicly revealed at the Frankfurt Motor Show in Germany.

    The ID.3 is the first vehicle to sit on VW's new modular car platform for EVs, called MEB, and comes in three variants, based on battery size and features. The mid-range variant called the ID.3 1ST is going to be out first, hence the name.

    It comes with a 58 kWh battery for a range of up to 260 mi (420 km) on the WLTP cycle and can be charged via 11 kW (AC) or a 100 kW (DC) source. "With DC charging, it is possible to recharge enough energy to cover a range of 290 kilometers within 30 minutes," says VW, with no word yet on the price of this variant.

    The base model that's meant to start under 30,000 euros ($33,000) before state subsidies as per VW, comes with a 45 kWh battery that can last up to 205 mi (330 km) on the WLTP cycle and will reach a top speed of 160 km/h. The battery can be recharged via a 7.2 kW (AC) or 50 kW (DC) source with optional 100 kW (DC) charging also available.

    Lastly, there's the ID.3 Long-Range that comes with a 77 kWh battery pack that'll do 340 miles (550 km) as per WLTP and can be recharged via 11 kW (AC) or up to 125 kW of DC power. Pricing for this variant is still to be revealed but being the flagship of the series, it'll have interior goodies like an augmented reality HUD, a Beats sound system and a panoramic glass roof, among other features.

    The Golf-sized hatchback has shorter overhangs, a longer wheelbase and no center tunnel to make for a spacious interior that's got seating for five and 385 liters of boot space.

    "The sculptured, flowing surface structure has been inspired by nature’s shapes—bionic design rather than rational technology," says VW, describing its 'Open Space' interior layout that's got a 10-inch touch screen in the center to take care of the usual tasks.

    Rest of the cabin is all touch operated apart from the window switches and the hazard lights that use physical buttons. Damn these smartphones!

    The ID.3 has also got VW's latest driver assist features that include "Front Assist with City Emergency Braking System and Pedestrian Monitoring, multicollision brake and Lane Assist lane keeping system, Side Assist lane change system, Park Assist including rear view camera system."

    "With the ID.3, Volkswagen is heading towards the future. The natural style and absolutely intuitive user experience demonstrate a new, electric way of thinking," said Head Designer Klaus Bischoff.

    Production of the car is planned for November this year with deliveries expected in mid-2020 starting with Germany. During this time, VW has plans to install 400 ultra-fast charging stations across major European routes.

    The ID.3 hatchback won't be heading to the US, instead, a production version of VW's ID.CROZZ SUV will be available to buy there sometime next year.

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  2. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,589   +3,188

    That interior... does it really have to look like it's made of kitchen utensils glued together?
     
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  3. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 5,680   +4,025

    I was wondering when they would enter the race, but like so many others, they missed the point. $33,000 is far above so many different entry market automobiles they certainly are not aiming at "the masses" and with such a smaller, lighter car you would expect at least half as much more in range.
    "It was also reported that the company had plans to mass produce a sub-$23,000 EV to rival the likes of Tesla and Chevy (Bolt) and earlier this year, it started taking pre-orders (Europe only) for the ID.3 that's now been publicly revealed at the Frankfurt Motor Show in Germany."
    We've heard it all before from more than a few players, but so far nobody has been able to produce their "intended results". And after hearing decades of boasts about "German Engineering", it appears that the once valid claim is also a thing of the past.
     
  4. Theinsanegamer

    Theinsanegamer TS Evangelist Posts: 1,608   +1,820

    Why would you expect longer range due to weight? Electric motors dont benefit from weight loss like ICE cars do. Someone online already tried that by strippign everything out of a model S and got practically the same range out of it. Wind resistance is a much larger proponent of limiting range.

    Besides, the tesla model 3 gets 310 miles of range from 75kwh, VW is claiming 340 out of 77. There is your improvement from a smaller size.

    As for price, when is the last time you went car shopping? The GTI costs upwards of over $40,000 euros. 33K euros for this is a BARGAIN, especially given europe's extremely high gas prices and CO2 taxes in cities. Hell, at $33K american it would be competitive with the tesla model 3, which has sold like hotcakes, and would only be 3K more hten a base model GTI with a few bells attatched.

    This isnt an entry level automobile. That would be something ala the chevy spark, electric smart car, the VW polo, or the base nissan leaf.
     
  5. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 5,680   +4,025

    Sounds like you flunked your course in electrical engineering ... you better go back and brush up on that one!
     
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  6. Vulcanproject

    Vulcanproject TS Evangelist Posts: 776   +1,134

    I think they have the price really close to mass market at this stage. Europe is not the USA, cars are more expensive. Europeans pay $33k for compact hatchbacks all the time. Premium hatches are a big market.

    Most of the major car buying EU countries offer publicly funded subsidies to cover a good chunk of the cost of a qualifying all electric car. Germany have recently proposed an increase, up to 4000 euros for a new privately purchased vehicle. Belgium is €4k. In the UK it is £3.5k. That would make the base model ~€26k (about $29k), and within the price range of a well specced VW Golf.

    Many also offer typical electric benefits like reduced yearly taxation and subsidised charging. VW will sell a lot of these cars.
     
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  7. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 4,192   +2,476

  8. toooooot

    toooooot TS Evangelist Posts: 950   +453

    Will be popular. Although all the people who like current golf now wont be the ones that wanna spend the amount of money this baby will cost when it is my understanding a current new golf model is noticeably cheaper.
     
  9. netman

    netman TS Evangelist Posts: 378   +132

    I want to see the VW Bus Electric, nothing else...
     
  10. Lounds

    Lounds TS Maniac Posts: 242   +167

    What I want to know is do the batteries have a cooling system? The leaf's efficiency runs off a cliff past 60mph due to the batteries getting hot and only being cooled by the air intake.
     
  11. Markoni35

    Markoni35 TS Addict Posts: 312   +130

    Why is it so ugly? One would expect an electric car to be better looking, since it has less limitations by the dimensions and complexity of the power-train. But instead, they've hired an undergraduate student (or maybe a complete amateur) to design their new car. Who wants an expensive ugly electric car?
     
  12. Lew Zealand

    Lew Zealand TS Guru Posts: 834   +729

    The electric ugly design is like the Prius, instantly recognizable at a distance so you can show off.

    To the other ugly car people.
     
  13. PEnnn

    PEnnn TS Addict Posts: 141   +116

    340 miles, eh?? Is that with or without cheating, a la diesel debacle??
     

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