War Thunder players keep leaking classified military documents to prove a point

midian182

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WTF?! Who would have thought we'd reach a stage where developers are begging people not to post highly classified military documents on their forums, just to prove that something in a game isn't 100% accurate? Gaijin Entertainment, creator of military sim War Thunder, found itself in this situation after players leaked top-secret tank specs—twice.

The latest incident revolved around the in-game depiction of the French Leclerc Main Battle Tank and its variants' turret rotation speed—many who enjoy War Thunder take its accurate recreation of military vehicles seriously.

As reported by UK Defence Journal, Sunday saw an argument break out on the game's forum over War Thunder's representation of the Leclerc. A member called __RED_CROSS__ didn't agree with the claim that its turret rotates at 40 degrees per second, so they posted a file called 'Skerit document' that contained parts of the Leclerc's official gunner manual as proof.

The user later posted messages alleging that they were a member of a Leclerc Series 2 tank squad, which has been in service with the French military since 1992. "It took ~11 seconds for the turret to make a complete turn, so 550 mil/s (31°) is indeed correct not 40°. [Leclerc Serie 2] I was in," they wrote. There were also arguments on the forum over whether the documents were classified.

Moderators eventually removed the file and offered a warning to users: "Guys its not funnny [sic] to leak classified Documents of modern equipment you put the lives of many on stake who work daily with the Vehicles! Keep in Mind that those documents will be deleted immediately alongside sanctions. Thanks for reading!" wrote mod JagdEnte.

This isn't the first time War Thunder has dealt with users posting tank manuals. Back in June, an argument over the size of the gap between the main turret and the hull led to a player posting classified information about the Challenger 2 tank. It resulted in the UK Ministry of Defence writing to Cyprus-based Gaijin, informing them that the manual is classified and the person posting it, who claimed to be a Challenger 2 commander, could be violating the official secrets act.

Community manager Smin1080p writes that with over 2,000 vehicles in the game, issues like these can "take time to validate, check source material and implement if they indeed are found to be incorrect."

"The time it takes to review and process reports however is no reasoning, justification or any grounds to break legally defined permeameters in any way. We will always entirely reject any such documentation and resolve the matter with any legal requirements."

The War Thunder Instagram page probably said it best: "Please don't send us classified documents, we really don't want to end up chained at the bottom of a disguised CIA cargo ship in international waters."

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merikafyeah

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Virtual tank battles are serious business! XD
Accurate specs or bust!

No but let's be real here. Tanks are old world tools. Future wars won't be fought with tanks. Economic warfare, ideological warfare, and cyber warfare are the new battlegrounds.
 
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wiyosaya

Posts: 6,536   +4,926
I think it is more likely that the person who posted the info will end up on a secret CIA ship.

For me, it is hard to believe someone would actually be dumb enough to post something like this.
 

Rocky4040

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I think these leakers need to realize it is only a fricken game and not meant to be real life. Who cares really if some ***** thinks he/she was in a tank squad and they noticed the rotation speed of the virtual tank was slightly off from the real thing. Maybe they should be happy they are no longer sitting in a real tank getting blasted at and just play the fake world tank game and just enjoy it for what it is.
 

texasrattler

Posts: 1,217   +577
I think these leakers need to realize it is only a fricken game and not meant to be real life. Who cares really if some ***** thinks he/she was in a tank squad and they noticed the rotation speed of the virtual tank was slightly off from the real thing. Maybe they should be happy they are no longer sitting in a real tank getting blasted at and just play the fake world tank game and just enjoy it for what it is.
In this day and age when money is involved its never a game or a game you want to lose at.
Gaming is a big business and if a company makes a Sim game and make claims of it being authentic well it damn well better be very close. Otherwise things like people posting stuff will happen.
Corporations play the biggest game, who can make the most $. You don't ask them to stop. They only break laws n get slapped on the wrist with fines that mean nothing at the end of day.
 

kiwigraeme

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How would this game compare to actual sim software the from respective countries army ones.
Or have they ripped the IP or paid for the IP of this one?
 

AMN3S1AC

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If some chump playing War Thunder can access these "confidential documents", then it is fair to say intelligence departments of other countries are also able to view them.
 

Markoni35

Posts: 1,303   +520
That was the plan all the time. Create a non-realistic tank game and wait until players in high positions start leaking the documents to prove that game is wrong. Is it April 1st already?
 

kiwigraeme

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The “last great tank battle of the 20th century” took place on February 26, 1991, in the Battle of 73 Easting

It was a tiny battle - I was curious