Watch: Tesla Model S caught on video going up in flames "out of the blue"

[cliffordcooley]

Maybe you could buy two of his flamethrowers, one for each hand.

Do you think they are powered by lithium-ion batteries? Those things can throw a flame.

 

[captaincranky]

Do you think they are powered by lithium-ion batteries? Those things can throw a flame.

Nah. Lithium batteries are obstinate buggers. You can't get them to blow up when you need it. They only explode when it's least convenient for their owners .

Like you know, when your Galaxy Note 8 is in your pants pocket, right next to your junk...!

 

[captaincranky]

"I'll take two".....Lara Croft!

 

[yeeeeman]

We'll let you believe that you are right. Only time will tell...

 

[wiyosaya]

I wasn't talking about that. Musk had a rant on Twitter about journos in general, unrelated to Telsa and they went after him comparing him to Trump and whatnot. Since then I regulary see negative news about Tesla.

IMO, the comparison is apt - except, of course, for the supposed political parties with which they are affiliated. It takes a courageous person to step back and reflect on what they have within. I did not see Musk's rant or the articles about him, however, it does not surprise me that Musk would deny that he is like Trump.

Edit: I really think that the negative news preceded Musk's rant.

 

[wiyosaya]

For all of you saying that the media only reports when the vehicle at fault is a Tesla, and never report on any other companies, you either have a memory problem, or you haven't read the news or watched the television. Reason is, there are countless articles covering GM, Toyota, Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, Ford and many other manufacturers having safety issues and recalls. In fact, a while back, there was a major news story about certain FCA vehicles catching on fire, or the possibility of a fuel line causing a fire.

But the difference is, those other companies tend to address the problem and make them right, rather than claim it is a one off occurance.

As far as I can tell, Toyota tends to address the problem before NHSTA forces a recall. The others tend to address the problem after NHSTA forces a recall. NHSTA, in general, does not have to force Toyota to recall anything because Toyota tends to be pro-active regarding the problems that they have with their vehicles.

I think that says a lot about what each company thinks of their responsibility towards their customers. In that respect, I think Toyota is about the only company that actually thinks their customers are human and deserving of the respect that humans deserve.

 

[wiyosaya]

Nah. Lithium batteries are obstinate buggers. You can't get them to blow up when you need it. They only explode when it's least convenient for their owners .

Like you know, when your Galaxy Note 8 is in your pants pocket, right next to your junk...!

Well, if you really need to start a fire with one, take it out and poke a knife through it. Then it will shoot sparks for you in a more pleasant fashion.

 

[captaincranky]

Well, if you really need to start a fire with one, take it out and poke a knife through it. Then it will shoot sparks for you in a more pleasant fashion.

You just struck on a brilliant and elegant solution for Tenderfoot Boy Scouts to pass their campfire starting test. The scoutmaster can always start a fire in the middle of a thunderstorm with a single match, but first time campers are not so skilled. Hence, a can of lighter fluid went into your backpack for just such emergencies.

Now, you can just take your tinder, slap a phone battery in the middle, then stab it with your boy scout knife. And, viola, instant success, a shimmering blaze.

Of course, don't forget to attach a nonflammable piece of wire to the battery, so you can yank it out of the fire, and throw it into a patch of poison ivy, before the scoutmaster arrives.

 

[Michiel]

He is the greatest fund raiser and bullsh!t artist the world has ever known. Beyond that, yes, he's a clever businessman. The proof of that is ironically, Paypal is his one actual triumph.

Tesla is a money pit, and a big chunk of its stockholders were attempting to get rid of him as CEO. I doubt if they were successful, since his brother and all his friends are strategically placed on the Tesla board of directors. But it does represent a huge vote of "no confidence" in his leadership ability.

And answer this, how could have a company which has lost money since its inception, nor is able to deliver the vehicles Musk "sells", have turned him into a billionaijre, without him siphoning funds out the backdoor, and into his back pocket?

Tesla Motors is completely unable to cash the checks Musk writes with his mouth. As of now, it's a train wreck.

And all the nonsense people keep spouting about "how much Musk has done" is the result of his workers, and because you swallow hook, line, and sinker, everything that con artist tells you.

As far as actual work product from him of a scientific nature, he hasn't done squat, save for run his mouth and spend everyone else's money. Final answer,.

You obviously have no idea how this works. The fact that Musk is a billionaire does not mean he has a pile of cash that size in his pocket. His own money is invested in his companies (for a large part at least) and his worth is merely an expression of what the markets think the value of said investments is. AFAIK SpaceX makes a profit too. You have absolutely zero proof of him "siphoning funds" and surely if anyone actually believed such a thing, his shareholders would be the first to demand his head a platter and start an investigation. Obviously investors trust him enough to hand over their money. They wouldn't do that if they didn't expect a return on their investment. But I guess he has everyone fooled except for you. You must be very special indeed. Also no one is claiming Musk singlehandedly builds his rockets or his cars, or that he's a scientist. You're just spouting ridiculous accusations with no actual basis in reality.

 

[captaincranky]

You obviously have no idea how this works. The fact that Musk is a billionaire does not mean he has a pile of cash that size in his pocket. His own money is invested in his companies (for a large part at least) and his worth is merely an expression of what the markets think the value of said investments is.

Oh, so he' really all mouth, and no liquid assets?

AFAIK SpaceX makes a profit too.

What are you talking about too? Tesla lost close to 2 billion last year.

If you like, you can take that up with Forbes Magazine, a very well respected financial publication:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanoh...pulls-upbeat-musk-back-to-earth/#48737a861bab

You have absolutely zero proof of him "siphoning funds" and surely if anyone actually believed such a thing, his shareholders would be the first to demand his head a platter and start an investigation. Obviously investors trust him enough to hand over their money. They wouldn't do that if they didn't expect a return on their investment.

Guess what, a sizable block of investors recently voted to remove him as CEO of Tesla. Look that up yourself.

But I guess he has everyone fooled except for you. You must be very special indeed. Also no one is claiming Musk singlehandedly builds his rockets or his cars, or that he's a scientist. You're just spouting ridiculous accusations with no actual basis in reality.

If he's all of those things you say he isn',t (not a scientist, not a mechanical engineer or physicist, a rocket backwards landing genius / pilot), it would seem you agree with me after all, that he's the greatest fund raiser, carnival barker, and bullsh!t artist, the world has ever known.

Why don't you give the "prince of ecological preservation", an email shout out, and ask him why he wasted a couple million pounds of rocket fuel to put his Tesla into outer space. While you at it, ask him if he thinks the 12.000 satellites he wants put into orbit would pose a hazard to his own efforts at space travel, beings as he's going to start his mars colony, day after tomorrow..

As for the constant repetition I am forced to listen to here at Techspot, "why Musk landed a rocket backwards, no one in history has been able to do that", I've got some news for you.

First, the price of recovery and salvage is payload.

Second, "fly by wire " has been available for decades. The now retired F-14 "Tomcat" had computer controlled variable wing geometry, as well as being able able to track 12 targets and fire on 6 of them at once.

The computer on the lunar orbiters, had less power than the "Raspberry Pi" of today. (look that up yourself too)

Given that.the technology for remote flight is readily available , if you break enough spent boosters, it most likely is no big deal to learn to land them. His patience persistence, and self promoting dogma, with the US government's, and investor's money, will pay big dividends for Musk.

As an example, with the radio control systems of my youth, you couldn't even fly an RC helicopter. Later, gyroscopes were made available, costing at least a hundred dollars, and heli flight became possible. Now, everybody and their twin sister, can walk into "Toys' R Us", (*) and by a "drone", with an on board gyro for $19.95.

BTW, I could say the same thing about you, how you think you're very special. Since you have 25 posts here, apparently haven't done any research to contradict my posts, and still speak as if you know it all and, "everybody agrees with you". Not quite, junior.

(*) Don't know if "Toys 't Us" has been shuttered yet. Much like you, I really couldn't be bothered to do the research. Substitute Amazon, Walmart, Microcenter, Newegg, and on, you can still buy a drone for 20 bucks.