Weekend Open Forum: What really grinds your gears?

[Darkshadoe]

Yu no waht grindz mah geers? Peepole hoo dun yuz speelchek.

 

[Cycloid Torus]

Top gear grinder is SPAM.

Next: Pop-up, pop-over, pop-under ads of all varieties - voice-pop, music-pop ads included, especially those ads which either cling to the center of the webpage or are at higher volume.

Close: Hot spot advertising links are almost as bad.

 

[davislane1]

What grinds my gears is the iSheep not understanding I don't like Apple products for my own unique reasons. It is my personal preference.

There is nothing wrong with your personal preference. What's wrong is the slew of unbased Apple insults that came right after that.

I don't give an iCrap that you overspend on your products

Apple phones cost the same as Android flagships. So, in other words, you're saying "you spend your money wrong, Android is the only right way to spend your money". Or, even more accurately, "stop liking what I don't like".
It's a shame, though. You'll be a much less unpleasant and arrogant forum user the day you begin to understand that people don't want to pay just for big (and mostly pointless) spec numbers. Apple offers higher build quality, a more user-friendly OS (Android is miles behind iOS and Windows Phone in that aspect), a more controlled environment (which, for normal people who are not "power users", is a good thing) and the status associated with the brand (the simple fact you think that is not important shows a complete lack of understanding of human nature). It's a perfectly valid approach.
Android, on the other hand, comes in larger variety, more price ranges, with better specs and much higher versatility (and, by consequence, complexity). If you want that, that's completely fine. But that does NOT mean it's the only approach that has value, it does NOT warrant all the pointless criticism Apple get from people like you and many others on this site.
Again, reading comments like yours is exactly as annoying as seeing people fervorously supporting everything Apple does and waiting in line to get the new model on day one. You're not any better than the "iSheep" you love to criticize.

TL;DR: Value is subjective. If you don't understand this, you're probably the one being had.

 

[SNGX1275]

On the the other side of that coin, there are people that BUY Apple products because it is "cool" and "trendy" to do so. *****s that will pay 2.5 to 3 times the cost of some product just because it says APPLE on it.

I really don't think so man, I think that is some myth that people that hate Apple want to continue. I really don't see this happening in my every day life.

 

[gooderguy]

Windows Updates!!! I have to setup new computers for people every day and setting up Windows 8 computers I have to do all the updates. I can't understand why so often they fail, right out of the box, I turn on a new system, run updates, it finds and runs through a batch of updates, takes forever, restarts, then randomly fails with a message "reverting changes" then takes ages to restart leaving me to start over from scratch. Drives me nuts. I love setting up Mac's, it takes me about 10 minutes. I've owned one for a year now, so much less fuss. But I have to say, Microsoft keeps me employed!

 

[negroplasty]

This is an easy one... Fools driving in the inside lane of a road with 2 or more lanes in either direction when they aren't passing. Inside lane is for passing, outside lane is for going slow like all of you love to do in the inside lane (otherwise known as the FAST lane). In my state of Arizona it is a law, one that nobody understands or abides. Why you ask? I'll tell you why. Because it costs $20 to get your license and all you have to do is drive around the block, stop at a few stop signs and pull off a three-point turn without killing anyone and boom... here's your license, go ahead and drive the biggest SUV you can and while you're at it hover in the fast lane while all the other surrounding lanes are passing you going about 10+ mph faster than you.

The fast lane; not the speed limit lane, not the I'm going far so I'll stay "out of the way" over here lane... get the hell out of my way before I follow you to your destination and take a large poop on your hood.

To make matters worse, I've lived in Europe (England, Spain, Holland, France) and seen how they drive over there. People make room for others, they drive in the appropriate lane and somehow it works out. Puts the morons here in the US (for sure in my state) to shame, and I wish I could drill this simple concept into the otherwise air occupied space in their brains. Instead of educating the morons, we just keep making the roads wider so at some point you see 4 or 5 mentally challenged individuals all driving next to one-another and you can't get by and it's 11pm!!!! This is a situation that should not exist, and it wouldn't were it not for the lack of a proper driving test and respect for the privilege that is driving an automobile.

That's what grinds my gears.

 

[yRaz]

TL;DR: Value is subjective. If you don't understand this, you're probably the one being had.

The problem with apple is that their value is not subjective. You're overpaying for hardware for the privilege of using an operating system that is less capable. If all you do is browse facebook and write term papers, OSX is fine. At the same time, you don't need to pay $1,000+ to be able to browse facebook and write term papers.

I don't have a problem with apple because of their operating system or even so much that they over charge for identical hardware. My problem with apple is their anticompetitive behavior. They don't want other people in the same market as them, which is normal. However, it is the way they force people out of their market that bothers me. Instead of making their prices competitive or actually making a better product they just sue the living daylights out of anyone who tries to compete with them. I can see how people may like the look of the hardware, but looks are not worth the price alone.

DISCLAIMER: the statement below is not related to my dislike of apple products or their users.

Anyway, what really grinds my gears? People who are content with their level of knowledge. I do not claim to be intelligent because the more I learn the more I discover there is to be learned. There comes a point when you have learned enough to become aware that there are more things you don't know than there are things you do know. It really doesn't take much more than paying attention in high school to get to that point yet I see people who graduate from college who are dumber than most children. Too much of our society thinks that education is unimportant and boring. These are the people who say "I'll never need to know what X equals!" learning math, in my opinion, is more about increasing your capacity to learn than it is having. I can think of no practical reason why someone would need to calculate the surface area of a 4 dimensional shape. However, we will all be better people for having done so and that alone makes it worth it.

I'm not saying people need to teach themselves quantum physics everyday, but I am saying you should ask an interesting question everyday and try to find an answer. I remember when I first learned how monitors worked. I was actually kind of disappointed that no longer thought of them as magical light boxes. At the same time, I was amazed at how simple the underlying principles of the magical light box were.

Also, don't let personal opinions get in the way of finding the correct answers. This is something I still struggle with as an adult, although being aware of it makes it easier to work around.

 

[gobbybobby]

This is an easy one... Fools driving in the inside lane of a road with 2 or more lanes in either direction when they aren't passing. Inside lane is for passing, outside lane is for going slow like all of you love to do in the inside lane (otherwise known as the FAST lane). In my state of Arizona it is a law, one that nobody understands or abides. Why you ask? I'll tell you why. Because it costs $20 to get your license and all you have to do is drive around the block, stop at a few stop signs and pull off a three-point turn without killing anyone and boom... here's your license, go ahead and drive the biggest SUV you can and while you're at it hover in the fast lane while all the other surrounding lanes are passing you going about 10+ mph faster than you.

The fast lane; not the speed limit lane, not the I'm going far so I'll stay "out of the way" over here lane... get the hell out of my way before I follow you to your destination and take a large poop on your hood.

To make matters worse, I've lived in Europe (England, Spain, Holland, France) and seen how they drive over there. People make room for others, they drive in the appropriate lane and somehow it works out. Puts the morons here in the US (for sure in my state) to shame, and I wish I could drill this simple concept into the otherwise air occupied space in their brains. Instead of educating the morons, we just keep making the roads wider so at some point you see 4 or 5 mentally challenged individuals all driving next to one-another and you can't get by and it's 11pm!!!! This is a situation that should not exist, and it wouldn't were it not for the lack of a proper driving test and respect for the privilege that is driving an automobile.

That's what grinds my gears.

Wow that's cheap I am looking at at least $1000 to get lessons and take driving test. The theory paper test is $50 alone. Will stick to public transport heh.

 

[TheBigFatClown]

Really? I would have thought that the word "personal" would have been a dead giveaway?
Hypothetical case:
"I WANT a budget Core i3 with unlocked multiplier and a TDP to fully utilize it - therefore Intel need to make it - it should also have 16 cores 'cos I NEED CORES because [uses single threaded application as example]"

I'm talking about individual posters, you're talking about a group. Group individual posters and you may have a broad base for consensus, but the individual requirements wont be identical.
I'd also add that many of these wish lists and personal must haves don't actually conform in any way to real life/real world economics or technology development.

Something else that I should have added to my list of peeves - people who ascribe motivation based upon little or no actual evidence.

And for the record, OS usage/distain/acceptance/whatever is largely a subjective affair when the software functions as intended. Whatever my experience is, I recognise it as personal to my usage and don't spend a whole lot of time trying to convince others that my subjective experience warrants more attention than someone else's subjective experience.....as for Win8...New build and MS offered me W8 Pro for $39.99. Count me in. Thanks for taking the time to check out my system specs before beginning the baiting- I'm sure the site owners appreciate the extra page clicks.

So I was right. You are a Windows 8 lover. I guess I *could have* done 30 minutes of research about who you are, where you came from, read some of your past posts and much more before I commented but your first sentence was pretty much a dead giveaway that you had Windows 8 in the back of your mind.
Almost everyone can be a satisfied customer given "choices". When "choices" are taken away for no reason you start pissing people off because you are trying to limit what they can do and how they can do it at that point.

Page clicks aren't the end goal. You clicking through to an ad are. I have a natural ability to ignore ads like they don't even exists. It's habitual for me to immediately close anything that pops up in my face. And using Google Chrome's "click-to-play" feature makes it even less painful. So unless you bought something you didn't do the website creators any favors.
Ill count you in with all the other sheep that took the Windows 8 "bait" hook, line, and sinker. I wouldn't use Windows 8 on a daily basis if someone gave me a free product key.

I don't expect the software industry to write custom software or design custom products for just me. I am not a king. But if you have 50% of your customer base complaining about your product then you have a serious problem.

 

[Guest]

Instead of making their prices competitive or actually making a better product they just sue the living daylights out of anyone who tries to compete with them.

Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Samsung: Yes
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and HTC: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Sony: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and LG: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Motorola: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Nokia: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Dell: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and HP: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Lenovo: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Acer: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Microsoft: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Google: No
Seems to me like yet another case of confirmation bias which is does not represent reality.

 

[Steve]

People who hide behind guest accounts lol

 

[dividebyzero]

but your first sentence was pretty much a dead giveaway that you had Windows 8 in the back of your mind.

No, actually it was tech in general, but since I'm more hardware orientated I tend to notice the posters who think that Intel, AMD, Nvidia and the other IHV's owe it to them to put out personalised SKU's - hence the example I supplied.
I believe you mentioned Windows 8, seemingly in order to pontificate about it. The fact that you put up a wall of text spouting the sermon of the BigFatClown pretty much confirms it.

Long-standing legal battle between Apple and HTC: No

Actual length of legal battle: 2 years 8 months

Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Microsoft: No

Actual length of legal battle: 6 years 5 months

Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Nokia: No

Actual length of legal battle (Apple countersuit): 1 year 6 months

Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Motorola: No

Actual length of legal battle: 4 years and counting
Not to mention Amazon, Hewlett-Packard, various bloggers, and a host of "look and feel" lawsuits.

People who hide behind guest accounts lol

If we fact checked as well as "Guest", we'd want to remain anonymous too!

 

[Guest]

People who hide behind guest accounts

lol

First, I don't see how hiding behind usernames is better than hiding behind "guest".
Second, I don't see how having a username would change anything on the points I have made here.

 

[cliffordcooley]

First, I don't see how hiding behind usernames is better than hiding behind "guest".
Second, I don't see how having a username would change anything on the points I have made here.

Individuality! No personalization!

As a guest, would you stand behind what everyone else has posted as a guest? No, I didn't think so. As a guest, your points cannot be taken seriously. And your point about hiding behind a username, well I have that complaint myself. In fact I'm one of the few on any forums that can actually have that complaint.

 

[hopgop1]

What drives me nuts is the rate at which new products come out, making the existing ones look old or obsolete. Why can't we all just have a global 'New Products Release Summer' every 4 years or so, so we can get on with our lives for a while and then take a summer easy to pause and refresh and upgrade to what we need at that time and then get on with our lives again. I know I can do this even now - there's no reason I shouldn't wait 4 years, but them new products in my face every single day is just PLAIN MADDENING I TELL YA!

Your not forced to buy it.

 

[Steve]

First, I don't see how hiding behind usernames is better than hiding behind "guest".
Second, I don't see how having a username would change anything on the points I have made here.

Sign up, things will become clearer lol

 

[Darkshadoe]

Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Samsung: Yes
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and HTC: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Sony: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and LG: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Motorola: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Nokia: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Dell: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and HP: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Lenovo: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Acer: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Microsoft: No
Long-standing legal battle between Apple and Google: No
Seems to me like yet another case of confirmation bias which is does not represent reality.

You know what grinds my gears. People who hide behind guest accounts who post information with no supporting evidence to back it up.

 

[Steve]

You know what grinds my gears. People who hide behind guest accounts who post information with no supporting evidence to back it up.

Who wants cream? Nobody? Okay, no cream.

 

[Rippleman]

The tendency of some people to hate everything related to Apple, just because it's "cool" to do so in certain environments.

On the the other side of that coin, there are people that BUY Apple products because it is "cool" and "trendy" to do so. *****s that will pay 2.5 to 3 times the cost of some product just because it says APPLE on it.

on the other side of that, there are people who will buy ANDROID just to be cool with there "apple hating" friends just to be cool even if they have never owned an idevice.. If you buy something to be "cool", you are doing it wrong.

 

[ArdvarkMaster]

Apple phones cost the same as Android flagships. So, in other words, you're saying "you spend your money wrong, Android is the only right way to spend your money". Or, even more accurately, "stop liking what I don't like".

Please stop putting wording in my mouth. Because it is arrogant for you to to presume to speak for me. It may be true that on cost the top of the line phone are comparable, it is not true for the average user of android phones. Their cost is about half ( http://www.phonearena.com/news/Aver...Phone-and-the-price-gap-is-widening_id52693).

It's a shame, though. You'll be a much less unpleasant and arrogant forum user the day you begin to understand that people don't want to pay just for big (and mostly pointless) spec numbers.

No, they pay for the screen size and how it works for them. Of course my post never mentioned specs. Thanks for putting those words in my mouth. Again YOU assume something knowing absolutely nothing about my reasons for not buying Apple.

Apple offers higher build quality, a more user-friendly OS (Android is miles behind iOS and Windows Phone in that aspect), a more controlled environment (which, for normal people who are not "power users", is a good thing) and the status associated with the brand (the simple fact you think that is not important shows a complete lack of understanding of human nature). It's a perfectly valid approach.

All of that is YOUR opinion and is YOUR reason for buying Apple. Stop telling me I must bow to the status of your iSymbol simply because YOU like it. I find my phone easy to use for the way I use it. Get over yourself.

Android, on the other hand, comes in larger variety, more price ranges, with better specs and much higher versatility (and, by consequence, complexity). If you want that, that's completely fine. But that does NOT mean it's the only approach that has value, it does NOT warrant all the pointless criticism Apple get from people like you and many others on this site.

As opposed to the valuable criticism the iFolk offer the unwashed masses who don't have the latest iDevice. Because that is always warranted. /eyeroll

Again, reading comments like yours is exactly as annoying as seeing people fervorously supporting everything Apple does and waiting in line to get the new model on day one. You're not any better than the "iSheep" you love to criticize.

Never said I was. So how long have you been waiting in line for the iPhone 6?

 

[TheBigFatClown]

No, actually it was tech in general, but since I'm more hardware orientated I tend to notice the posters who think that Intel, AMD, Nvidia and the other IHV's owe it to them to put out personalised SKU's - hence the example I supplied.
I believe you mentioned Windows 8, seemingly in order to pontificate about it. The fact that you put up a wall of text spouting the sermon of the BigFatClown pretty much confirms it.

I am confused. Could you please quote what statement I made in the post you are referring to that is dogmatic? People who pay good money for products should be afforded the right to complain about changes and make suggestions for improvements. That's my only point and it's simply an opinion but I think its an opinion of the majority. There is the option of voting "exclusively" with your wallet but that seems like a much less idea way to get what you want in the future.

My post used Windows 8 as an example only. Most of what I said was stated to back up a simple point. If I am paying somebody money for services or products on a regular basis then I have the right to complain when I am not happy. That's all. If my complaining upsets you I apologize but it's not gonna stop me from doing it.

 

[rvnwlfdroid]

It's not tech related but the biggest thing that drives me nuts (grinds my gears) are the Yield signs on Freeway ON ramps. They should be Merge signs. There is nothing worse then trying to get up to speed to merge then the having to slam on your brakes because someone is stopped at the end of the on ramp. Especially when there is a 1/16 to 1/8 mile merge area. Grrrr.....

 

[jsmileb]

What grinds my gears is my insatiable desire to get the latest operating system, then spending hours trying to make it perform like the previous operating system.

 

[VitalyT]

The thing that has been driving me crazy is word "actually" dramatically overused by colleges at work, mostly foreigners. There's one guy (indian) that makes me puke who says "actually" every second word, I just wanna strangle him when he comes over an opens his mouth.

 

[Mister_K]

People who boast about knowing **** ton about a subject when actually in reality they know f* all.
People who you can't reason with.
Online Gamers of the age 10-15 tend to be annoying bunch of p****s.
"rekt, get rekt" comments and all them nerd hipster sayings
The Reddit Army, oh lawd wtf?