Weekend Open Forum: Windows 8 ditches Aero Glass -- will you miss it?

By Matthew ยท 104 replies
May 18, 2012
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  1. The catch here is that there are really few alternatives to Windows OS. We can ***** and moan, but our choices are:

    1) get in line like the rest of the masses and buy Win 8;​
    2) skip it, and hope Win 9 is better;​
    3) go Apple (not a chance in Hell);​
    4) Linux (not ready for public consumption)​

    My computer is for general word processing/email/browsing, but I am a hard core gamer. So my choice is likely 2) (can't game on Apple or Linux consistently), unless there is some incentive for gaming (which I have not yet heard).

    Microsoft does this because they can. They really still have little legitimate competition after all these years.
  2. Marnomancer

    Marnomancer TS Booster Posts: 723   +51

    TBH, I liked the glass. Helped me keep an eye on the download progress without bringing it fully in the foreground while I'm coding my 1st HTML code.
  3. will not at all
    always using "Adjust for best performance"
    but this is not the deal breaker to skip W8
    there is a much more substantial reasons to avoid it
  4. gobbybobby

    gobbybobby TS Guru Posts: 554   +9

    Alot of people here are saying they won't get windows 8, which is interesting

    I will, as I like Duel box, and the changes in that respect are very appealing to me. I expect I will be able to get Windows 8 (legally) free, as I did 7 via the MSDNA or whatever its called (Taking a computer science course grants loads of free Microsoft stuff \0/)
  5. I really really like aero and don't want to see it go. I too, will continue with 2008 R2 and not bother with the upgrade.
  6. Aero or not is not really a big deal either way. Please, please allow users to choose Metro or Standard Desktop, that is much more important.
  7. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,272   +456

    I will be missing Aero and actually use the transparency to get notifications while in other applications (like some of the things that apparently distract some of you.)

    @gobbybobby You may want to review your MSDN or Technet subscription a little closer - if you're legally via your university getting Windows for free it's probably from some other CLA - the usage through MSDN or Technet is for temporary or testing use and not intended to be a "production" machine. Taking classes even if related to computing is not inclusive of the testing criteria. If your university has a CLA then that is what is covering your free legit copies of Windows.
  8. Why is it that Metro is sounding more like Retro?

    You know what would really be innovative... giving users a choice.
  9. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    I don't like the idea of removing choice. They could default it to the white flat, but leave the option of choosing Aero. Just like how you could make XP look like 2000.

    This choice may be being done from a performance standpoint, I know Aero runs perfectly well on anything made in the last several years, but it still does require more power than you'd expect from an interface. Perhaps the move is somewhat influenced by MS wanting to get 0 lag on opening windows, no brief repeated windows on moving, and an OS that feels quicker and is more power efficient (for portables) than 7.
  10. Cycloid Torus

    Cycloid Torus Stone age computing. Posts: 3,002   +656

    Nope - never used it - performance hit for eye candy not worth the trade.
  11. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,713   +3,691

    Thats funny as I see Aero as performance not a performance hit. But you are correct, there must be a performance hit for everything you want your PC to do. The only real questions is what you want out of your PC. However I am wondering, if you have a PC that can handle Aero.
  12. What I learned from this article is that aesthetics plays a bigger role in some users' choice of operating system than I ever would have guessed. I would have assumed the choice would be based on features, ease of use, compatibility, and familiarity -- not whether the edges are flat or shiny. Interesting.
  13. Cycloid Torus

    Cycloid Torus Stone age computing. Posts: 3,002   +656

    Built this PC about 2 years ago -dual core 2.8ghz - nVidia GTS250 - 4g RAM. Started programming 46 years ago - still use command line. Just an old stick-in-the-mud.
  14. I dont get it!
    No start Button?
    No Aero?
    No more firefox or chrome?
    No more windows 8 in my pc!
    Is because one company witth one product software need gets new features and more options
    doesnt matters the aero glass but I think that needs to be a option for disable and enable and costumize windows.
    is like a why I will get one software with restricition if I have one with no restriction where is the freedom and costumization of windows
    microsoft dont get nothing what they will do next get all crysis europe in one pocket to make slaves for their software? this is the end of the world
    anyway the final user will not get windows 8
    I think Microsoft will lost some money in windows 8 is a new vista
  15. "Perhaps the move is somewhat influenced by MS wanting to get 0 lag on opening windows..an OS that feels quicker and is more power efficient (for portables) than 7."

    Bingo. Windows 8 is meant to have good stock OOB performance on tablets. So by default the "effects" profile should be lowest common denominator, or aero turned off. I even turn off aero on my PC, just to eek more crispness from the start menu.

    I also use XFE Linux (Xubuntu), and I like the "flat look" theme as it feels crisper and faster.

    I'm pretty sure aero will be included in windows 8, just not enabled by default. Microsoft has always given us classic preferences. Even windows 7 still has windows "classic" mode if you want your desktop the older way.
  16. "No more firefox or chrome???"
    Um No. Windows RT (ARM) will not have firefox/chrome as the default browser under classic desktop. (but they can have browsers as metro apps, just not set as default as in iPads)

    However Windows 8 (X86) can allow any browser to be default in classic desktop mode.

    I doubt Windows RT (ARM) would make such a good product anyways, given that's ipad's territory. But Windows 8(X86) tablet would be great for power users, since it can run legacy most x86 apps.
  17. "I think Microsoft will lost some money in windows 8 is a new vista"

    Vista was revolutionary for it's time , it introduced a lot of new technologies that some people (hardware wise) weren't prepared for. I think Vista's mistake was turning aero "on" by default.
    They should have left it off to make it feel faster, and eless issues with aero effects being new.

    Personally I never had a problem with Vista. Between Vista SP2 and Windows 7 (on same modern hardware) they both run pretty good. Obviously 7 is more refined.

    Windows 8 will be a hit for x86 tablets. Most people who already have 7 won't need to upgrade anyway til Windows 9. Corporate especially, they typically skip generations or two.
  18. I'll probably install win 8 on my one year old child, so he can look at the fish.
    But no adult in this house is gonna get win8.
  19. Just changed my Windows 8 CP from using the default "aero" theme to the "basic theme", then changed the "window color" to white, and my old office 2003 apps look pretty awesome semi-metrofied! You guys with win8CP should try it. Seems like it adds a metrofied look to older windows apps when using windows basic theme. I almost didn't recognize it was still office 2003.
    It has a mreo metro look to it, hard to describe, but really visually clean. Noted how much the UI seems speedier with windows basic UI theme than with Aero turned on. Even switching out from full-screen FPS games and back to classic desktop seems faster.
  20. I think this is a game they are playing with people to differentiate themselves with Apple. They are saying "crisp and clean" is modern and rounded corners and drop shadows are dated. Since Apple uses lots of this type of visual styling they are really saying "our OS is modern and Apple is old fashion". I am not sure anyone will buy this though.
  21. I like it
  22. sapo joe

    sapo joe TS Member Posts: 81   +6

    I like Aero and hate Metro. No more comments needed.
  23. I think the win7 vs. win 8 is much like the wp7 vs. android.and android's interface is much better than wp7.in my opinion Metro is a step back.and now ,with the anouncement that the Aero will not be available, I think I will pass this time.
  24. I don't really rate Aero, it's very dated now, I think the discerning choice has to be Wispa.
  25. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,713   +3,691

    So is using color for paint on automobiles (lets go back to painting them black), so what is your point?

    I'm growing tired of being given nice features one year and then losing them a few years later. Windows should be a shell that we can customize however we want through the use of Control Panel. Everything we have been given in the past as far as cosmetics should still be available, that includes a Windows XP theme for Windows 8.

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