just_a_nobody
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I often wonder, what Peter Norton thinks, as to what Symatech did to his baby?
What slows Windows down?
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Nukey
Posts: 101 +0
I use Kaspersky too and have no problems at all.
Wasn't a suprise about Nasty Norton though, back a while ago I tried it out and when Nort was uninstalled and Kaspersky was reinstalled it found around 20 virus fragments on the system all left out by Norton.
Detection is terrible and the report now proves it. That would explain why Norton is always so popular: its cheap to get hold of, the computer stores cut knock-off deals with the companies and tricks consumers into thinking Norton is the best.
Bah.
Wasn't a suprise about Nasty Norton though, back a while ago I tried it out and when Nort was uninstalled and Kaspersky was reinstalled it found around 20 virus fragments on the system all left out by Norton.
Detection is terrible and the report now proves it. That would explain why Norton is always so popular: its cheap to get hold of, the computer stores cut knock-off deals with the companies and tricks consumers into thinking Norton is the best.
Bah.
Dognapper0
Posts: 15 +0
Your're Right!
Norton is crap. i have McAfee on my computer and I like it all right. When I got a hold of a list of files that McAfee overlooks and Norton doesn't (However, that is all it will find) I decided to install Norton on, too. Then i started getting all these messages that i had all these viruses, not just PUPs, but viruses. then i started getting things from McAfee saying the same thing and i had unplugged internet. then both Norton and McAfee were saying that they were missing necessary files. then Microsoft started saying that necessary files were missing. See whats happening here? :unch: Long story short I started a war between them and I had to re-install XP on my computer.
Norton is crap. i have McAfee on my computer and I like it all right. When I got a hold of a list of files that McAfee overlooks and Norton doesn't (However, that is all it will find) I decided to install Norton on, too. Then i started getting all these messages that i had all these viruses, not just PUPs, but viruses. then i started getting things from McAfee saying the same thing and i had unplugged internet. then both Norton and McAfee were saying that they were missing necessary files. then Microsoft started saying that necessary files were missing. See whats happening here? :unch: Long story short I started a war between them and I had to re-install XP on my computer.
TimeParadoX
Posts: 2,222 +4
That's nice, thanks for the links
I only have about 4-5 of the items on that list ( Photoshop, DX9, WinRAR and DivX ) and I have about 40 fonts but I boot windows XP in about 25-30 seconds so I guess im special or something
( I done ALOT of modding & Tweaking to my PC so I guess that's why? )
I only have about 4-5 of the items on that list ( Photoshop, DX9, WinRAR and DivX ) and I have about 40 fonts but I boot windows XP in about 25-30 seconds so I guess im special or something
( I done ALOT of modding & Tweaking to my PC so I guess that's why? )glenn_rolek
Posts: 14 +0
so the PC slowing down is not of the capacity of my PC. like I have a 37.2GB Hard Disk space and have used more than 60%, makeing it around 15GB free space. I thought that the more used space on hard disk is used the slower my PC gets. is this correct?
and do I have to reformate my PC for it to act faster or can i just uninstall the programms?
and do I have to reformate my PC for it to act faster or can i just uninstall the programms?
N3051M
Posts: 2,094 +3
The low amount of available free space on your hdd(s) only contribute some tiny amount to the overall lag/slowness of a PC.
Some other factors that would contribute to a slow PC are mentioned above, but i will list it here in short form:
- Crap/outdated technology, not enough system resources available when needed for your PC's level of use and work (eg RAM etc), as well as slow types of technology to start with (eg 5200RPM HDDs)
- wrong BIOS settings, incorrect/outdated/generic drivers used
- HDD/IDE adapters set to PIO instead of DMA
- Installed programs, fonts, startup apps, background apps running, list goes on..
- Spyware, malware and the likes
- HDD not defragged, or cleaned up/maintained or HDD failure eminent
To answer your question, yes a reformat will solve all your problems (not relating to hardware) since you will possibly kill whatever is causing it in the first place in one fell swoop, but you won't know in the end what was causing it in the first place, and whether its avoidable or not.
Have a read of this to help speed things up: https://www.techspot.com/vb/topic53669.html
Some other factors that would contribute to a slow PC are mentioned above, but i will list it here in short form:
- Crap/outdated technology, not enough system resources available when needed for your PC's level of use and work (eg RAM etc), as well as slow types of technology to start with (eg 5200RPM HDDs)
- wrong BIOS settings, incorrect/outdated/generic drivers used
- HDD/IDE adapters set to PIO instead of DMA
- Installed programs, fonts, startup apps, background apps running, list goes on..
- Spyware, malware and the likes
- HDD not defragged, or cleaned up/maintained or HDD failure eminent
To answer your question, yes a reformat will solve all your problems (not relating to hardware) since you will possibly kill whatever is causing it in the first place in one fell swoop, but you won't know in the end what was causing it in the first place, and whether its avoidable or not.
Have a read of this to help speed things up: https://www.techspot.com/vb/topic53669.html
No surprise with Norton. It alters the system in such way that 70% of the times it even doesn't fully uninstall. Yeah, it has a lot of features, but what's the use. 90% of computers with norton I have to fix have their load of Virusses, Spyware & Spam.
I use avast as antivirus solution, it's free, and works well.
As for spyware, spybot+adaware, when needed.
I use avast as antivirus solution, it's free, and works well.
As for spyware, spybot+adaware, when needed.
nixxy
Posts: 6 +0
ok my 1st post
commenting on the title of this room lol everything makes windows xp slow. It isnt very hospitable to anything but itself that includes its own microsoft products.
About the anti virus stuff cmon anyone who thinks norton anti is good needs drowning very slowly and then hangin out to dry. If you want a proven reliable and resource light anti program go with
Grisoft's - AVG free - i say free cos the paid ones are not as good full of problems with the updates ect. so FREE is better
commenting on the title of this room lol everything makes windows xp slow. It isnt very hospitable to anything but itself that includes its own microsoft products.
About the anti virus stuff cmon anyone who thinks norton anti is good needs drowning very slowly and then hangin out to dry. If you want a proven reliable and resource light anti program go with
Grisoft's - AVG free - i say free cos the paid ones are not as good full of problems with the updates ect. so FREE is better
Norton does its job
I know everyone here likes to pick on Norton for being at the top of the list, but nobody can say it's not doing its job. If you didn't have Norton running, all those free resources would just be hogged up by the spyware and viruses on your system. By using all your resources, Norton is stop the malware from using them. :approve:
I know everyone here likes to pick on Norton for being at the top of the list, but nobody can say it's not doing its job. If you didn't have Norton running, all those free resources would just be hogged up by the spyware and viruses on your system. By using all your resources, Norton is stop the malware from using them. :approve:
howard_hopkinso
Posts: 21,238 +17
Hello and welcome to Techspot.
Unfortunately, that just isn`t true.
I spend most of my time here, cleaning peoples systems of malware. I have to say, I tend to see systems with more malware, that are running Symantec/Norton crapware, than any other security software.
We all know it`s a resource hog, but as well as that, I really don`t think it`s that good at detecting or killing infections. Add to that the other problems such as system crashes that I`ve seen as a direct result of Symantec/Norton and I wouldn`t touch it with a barge pole.
Regards Howard :wave: :wave:
brian0918 said:
Unfortunately, that just isn`t true.
I spend most of my time here, cleaning peoples systems of malware. I have to say, I tend to see systems with more malware, that are running Symantec/Norton crapware, than any other security software.
We all know it`s a resource hog, but as well as that, I really don`t think it`s that good at detecting or killing infections. Add to that the other problems such as system crashes that I`ve seen as a direct result of Symantec/Norton and I wouldn`t touch it with a barge pole.
Regards Howard :wave: :wave:
C
caravel
@howard_hopkinso: I believe this post was a joke. :haha:
Norton/Symantec is junk. If anyone is running it they should simply uninstall it and throw it away. I'm sorry if anyone reading this has paid for it, but that is the awful truth of the matter.
brian0918 said:
Norton/Symantec is junk. If anyone is running it they should simply uninstall it and throw it away. I'm sorry if anyone reading this has paid for it, but that is the awful truth of the matter.
LyricallyIsane1
Posts: 28 +0
Suggestion for a faster system load
If you want Windows to boot up faster without programs bootin by themselves & slowin your system,then run the system configuration utlility. click on > click run > type msconfig > click ok. warning: do not change anything else other than what you were insructed to do. Once the system configuration utiliy is open,click on the "startup" tab & uncheck all the programs & other items that you dont want to boot at start up. Only uncheck the ones you recognize or you might not boot the PC right.
After you have unchecked all the programs or items, click apply & ok. Then you may be asked to restart your system. Once your system has booted,You will get a message reminding everytime that you have used the utilitly & that your're on selective boot. Just check the box indicating to check if you dont want this message to appear everytime you boot your system.
If you want Windows to boot up faster without programs bootin by themselves & slowin your system,then run the system configuration utlility. click on > click run > type msconfig > click ok. warning: do not change anything else other than what you were insructed to do. Once the system configuration utiliy is open,click on the "startup" tab & uncheck all the programs & other items that you dont want to boot at start up. Only uncheck the ones you recognize or you might not boot the PC right.
After you have unchecked all the programs or items, click apply & ok. Then you may be asked to restart your system. Once your system has booted,You will get a message reminding everytime that you have used the utilitly & that your're on selective boot. Just check the box indicating to check if you dont want this message to appear everytime you boot your system.
Aolish
Posts: 168 +0
I find it really odd how aim is up there... I'm running aim 5.9 fine and dandy. Never have had problems with aim before. Opens up almost instantly and closes fine.
EDIT: Some of those programs shouldn't be up there.. another one is utorrent, thats probably the best Bittorrent client available as it was written with efficiency in mind, it takes up very little system resources. This can run even on the most oldest of computers. Heck, NO installation is necessary to even use it!!!
EDIT: Some of those programs shouldn't be up there.. another one is utorrent, thats probably the best Bittorrent client available as it was written with efficiency in mind, it takes up very little system resources. This can run even on the most oldest of computers. Heck, NO installation is necessary to even use it!!!
Mictlantecuhtli
Posts: 4,049 +13
Yeah, it may open and close fast (do you quit it completely, making sure its processes aren't running?), but anything that loads when Windows starts slows the initial starting down.
I boot Windows machines so rarely that the boot time doesn't really annoy me - but of course it would be nice to have it like Commodore 64...
I boot Windows machines so rarely that the boot time doesn't really annoy me - but of course it would be nice to have it like Commodore 64...
Yeah, I have stopped using Norton for quite a while. I don't know how good it is, or how to configure it in order to make it totally effective. I no longer use it because it slows down the computer like a motherf*cker. After that I have looked for free antivirus programs, I ended up using AVG, several people recommended it. So, that's what I'm using now... along with Spybot, Adaware and Windows Defender.
Dunno if I'm missing something... lol...
Still, the new LapTop I have right now came with McAfee pre-installed... 30 day trial... yada yada, that period expired and I no longer use it and I don't plan to purchase it... however, I haven't uninstalled it from my system... I want to do it, but I wonder if you people recommend doing it... and what's the best way to get rid of it without any possible trouble...
Dunno if I'm missing something... lol...
Still, the new LapTop I have right now came with McAfee pre-installed... 30 day trial... yada yada, that period expired and I no longer use it and I don't plan to purchase it... however, I haven't uninstalled it from my system... I want to do it, but I wonder if you people recommend doing it... and what's the best way to get rid of it without any possible trouble...
Adaware and AVG are quite good. Not as protective but they can be easily shut off from startup using msconfig.
Stupid Norton... Always had a grudge against it.
Don't you think its a bit strange that a whole codec pack is less an obstacle than a font library? Though it depends what is booted with this codec pack?
Stupid Norton... Always had a grudge against it.
Don't you think its a bit strange that a whole codec pack is less an obstacle than a font library? Though it depends what is booted with this codec pack?
Speaking of Antivirus, it's been a while since I stopped using Norton, so I use McAfee but right now newest version 2007 it's bugging me up with many automated options and sucking up a lot of resources, so I get rid of it but I'm afraid of virus and spyware, I remember some of you recommended pretty good stuff for antivirus that was freeware, but I forgot, could you remind me which ones are the best options, Thanks!
mopar man
Posts: 1,286 +1
AVG Free is what I use, works great for me. Go here: https://www.techspot.com/community/...lware-removal-preliminary-instructions.58138/
My husband, daughter & granddaughter all have Avast & they really like it. When my Mcaffee runs out, I too am going to it.
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