Nvidia's RTX 5080 is Actually an RTX 5070 - Wait, What?

[m3tavision]

Though I guess Nintendo Switch implies some Nvidia APU share?

Personally, 9700XT is a day one purchase for me, my last Nvidia was a 970 or something...

Yeah, we were discussing Gaming standards on open platforms, not niche!
(Nintendo is a closed market and tightly controlled software and Legacy games and is niche). The Switch 2 uses a Cell Phone SoC chip (T239), built specifically w/parameters for Nintendo games.)



Discreet vs SoC/APU "market share" is for open platforms.

Take Call of Duty (that had $2 billion in sales) is on Personal Computer, PlayStation5, Xbox, Steamdeck/ROG Ally/etc..

ie PC, Console, Mobile... (ie Discrete vs SoC/APU)




More Game Developers make Games for AMD's hardware, than anything close to Nvidia's RTX series. Nobody cares what a Nintendo Dev is doing..

 

[Champoikoi]

Still have a 1080 and 4th gen i5, so trying to upgrade and was waiting to see what this 50-series would produce. Very disappointing. The price to performance ratio keeps getting worse and worse. First time I'm thinking of going AMD, especially since I game on 1440p. Or just go 40-series to get the ray-tracing support.
Sad time to be a gamer.

 

[m3tavision]

Still have a 1080 and 4th gen i5, so trying to upgrade and was waiting to see what this 50-series would produce. Very disappointing. The price to performance ratio keeps getting worse and worse. First time I'm thinking of going AMD, especially since I game on 1440p. Or just go 40-series to get the ray-tracing support.
Sad time to be a gamer.

What Hz is your monitor btw...?

As for RTX50 series... you will not have to wait too much longer. Looks like AMD's rdna4 packs a punch.

Wait is almost ovr:
During a recent Q4 2024 earnings call, AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su confirmed that the launch will happen in early March. She specifically stated that these cards will go on sale, which presumably means a full product launch rather than preorders. She also mentioned that the company will target the “volume portion of the enthusiast market.” Typically, when cards are not designed to compete in the high-end market, they are referred to as mainstream or performance-tier cards, so the wording here is interesting.
--Videocardz


Partial quote from AMD's CEO a few days ago:
..for the launch of our next-gen Radeon 9000 series GPUs. Our focus with this generation is to address the highest volume portion of the enthusiast gaming market with our new RDNA 4 architecture. RDNA 4 delivers significantly better ray tracing performance and add support for AI-powered upscaling technology that will bring high-quality 4K gaming to mainstream players when the first Radeon 9070 series GPUs go on sale in early March.
— Dr. Lisa Su, AMD CEO


Cheer up, Radeon has your back.

 

[erickmendes]

Actually, Deepseek may be a wakeup for Nvidia to get back to its roots. It's a reminder that AI isn't going to stay so lucrative.

Nvidia itself is building this road down the AI path, there's nothing to wake them out of it. The era of rasterization is dead. Nvidia was the most important GPU company for the PC gaming industry, so it used it's influence to make game devs rely on AI to keep the eye candy advancing. Now Nvidia became an AI hardware maker and every game is made to run on an AI card (we can agree that there's not much stoping us from calling GPUs the right name, AI cards).

The game industry became a collateral for the AI industry... Games just happens to run well on their hardware.

And as bad as this sound AMD console solutions is the only thing that stops Nvidia hardware from dominating from bottom to top. Consoles need a bare minimum visual quality, just enough to keep the game from stuttering, so AMD builds consoles chips just to fill these bare minimum requirements.

These may be SoCs, but in the end they still have "real" GPUs on them, and they success to deliver just enough GPU prowess is what keep Nvidia from dominating the entire gaming industry.

Surprisingly the future of gaming oriented GPUs lies in the hands of AMD and (shockingly) Intel...

 

[m3tavision]

Nvidia itself is building this road down the AI path, there's nothing to wake them out of it. The era of rasterization is dead. Nvidia was the most important GPU company for the PC gaming industry, so it used it's influence to make game devs rely on AI to keep the eye candy advancing. Now Nvidia became an AI hardware maker and every game is made to run on an AI card (we can agree that there's not much stoping us from calling GPUs the right name, AI cards).

The game industry became a collateral for the AI industry... Games just happens to run well on their hardware.

And as bad as this sound AMD console solutions is the only thing that stops Nvidia hardware from dominating from bottom to top. Consoles need a bare minimum visual quality, just enough to keep the game from stuttering, so AMD builds consoles chips just to fill these bare minimum requirements.

These may be SoCs, but in the end they still have "real" GPUs on them, and they success to deliver just enough GPU prowess is what keep Nvidia from dominating the entire gaming industry.

Surprisingly the future of gaming oriented GPUs lies in the hands of AMD and (shockingly) Intel...

AMD's Gaming hardware has been DOMINATING since RDNA.

What beat a 3080 by 15% in one of the most sold FPS games in the last 5 years..? The $649 6900xt..! Why would a lemming pay 2x moAr for a 3080, when they can get a 6900xt for half as much.. bcz lemmings are gullible and serve their ego. People who have large superegos are frugal, always choose the better option and see through marketing. They are not persuaded by what someone else bought, or get caught up in marketing hype.

AMD's software Suite (Adrenalin) is much better than GFE and is multi-threaded. AMD has better Vulkan support, than Nvidia too.


THAT^ is why the entire Gaming Industry = RDNA because it's unified architecture.
(Not repurposed for gaming, like Blackwell is.)

 

[Superconductor]

RTX 4070 Ti FTW! Ignore the next cycle hype...

 

[Shirley Dulcey]

The perfect 5090 dies will probably be sold as a future Quadro card.

Now confirmed: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products/workstations/professional-desktop-gpus/rtx-pro-6000/