Who Believes in aliens??

Do u believe in aliens??

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lithiumdeuterid said:
This is the most unintelligible garbage yet posted! Wow! Sorry, I can't help it when I see something this poorly-written.

Do you people listen to yourselves when you talk (or read your own writing)?
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I'm sry for not wrighting it how you like.dint know this was a grammar conteset rofllmao
 
Pretty Crazy isn't it? well, you know, we have to be grammatically correct when we make posts. It lets other people know, that you have at least some intelligence. There are a few people on this forum, that like to over criticize posts, but I guess its a good thing, because they only push you to improve your imperfections. Anyway, we all have our opinions, and opinions they will be.
 
Aliens probably do exist. They might not have reached us and if they have, why would they want to talk to us. I mean, if we can't get along and we have was amonst eachother, how will we mingle in intergalactic society?
 
how will we mingle in intergalactic society?
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The First Galactic Empire of the Republic. er. just watch Star Wars. lol

Or perhaps you should be asking, if aliens are among us, maybe they don't talk to us because we get along EVEN BETTER then their own kind?
When people don't hold to a common high standard, the standard then becomes whatever they want. And so long as people never agree on a standard, they will always fight.
 
I think we are way too arrogant about us being the only intellingent life in the universe. Statistically, I'd say there are probably buttloads of aliens out there, and none of them would really want to have anything to do with us.
 
You seem to be ignoring that Faiths have also been... evolving over the centuries.
Galileo & Copernicus' theories were condemned by the church for being against doctrine were they not? I don't seem to see the church promoting such views anymore though. Similarly Catholocism has condemned infants to limbo for centuries yet now it's decided to change it's mind on that one. Papal infallibility is another recent addition to the Pope's powers (Actually Vatican spokespeople have declared that evolution is fully compatible with creationism for sometime). & perhaps most relevently, the Biblical timeline indicates the world is only around FOUR THOUSAND YEARS OLD.

Science may not always be right, but it's significantly more open & accepting of change, nor have I ever seen anyone being tried/executed for disagreeing with CERN :)
 
The biblical timeline is closer to 7 thousand years.

And also note that "religions", have little to do with biblical teaching. The bible, or "God's Word", has been the same "yesterday, today, and forever". But man's own error in understanding and applying it, is what changes throughout history. Not its teaching. For example, Isaiah 40:22, which has always been the same through time, says "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth...". And yet men believed the earth was flat until relativiely recent. Surely that passage states clearly that earth is round, but no belief.
Don't take the actions and collective thoughts of a "religious group" to be the end-all catch-all of biblical interpretation. There are many false religions, there many that just take "some" scripture and make that their life. All that is wrong, study the Word for yourself, apart from denominational name calling and narrow sighted preaching.

I'm not saying this to you, TS Thomas, I've no problem with your comments or anything. I'm just saying, in general, to the public, be careful you don't judge the bible based on how some random religious group interprets it. Taking small junks of scripture out and removing it from context, can allow people to do all manor of evil.

Anyhow, while I do like debates, it is pointless and far off topic, yet again :) So to get back on topic, um, ya, we are alone in the galaxy :)
 
definately

I have thought that maybe our galaxies are just atoms or molecules of a larger lifeform. but anyways,
i do believe that life has survived outside of Earth, how could a G-d so omnipotent have created such a vast universe without creating us some distant cousins to meet once peace has come with Christ's return.
 
I love god with all my heart go to church/chrstain skool watch it on tv. But how come we talking are about reliogus things? Some of us may get offerend.

BUT LETS GET ON SUBBJECT :hotbounce :knock: :)


They are around us, we are like test rats to them.
 
bobthabuilder said:
I have thought that maybe our galaxies are just atoms or molecules of a larger lifeform. but anyways,
i do believe that life has survived outside of Earth, how could a G-d so omnipotent have created such a vast universe without creating us some distant cousins to meet once peace has come with Christ's return.
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He very well could have. But it is simply up to His own good pleasure if He wanted to do that or not. And what would it matter to us anyway? If it is up to our own technology to go find THEM, it is obvious that will never happen in our lifetime, or ten more generations. So why do we even try to answer such a question? Why even try to figure it out?

Here is what would happen, you see. Let's say we find life somewhere. And it is not anywhere as advanced as us. Then what happens is we take them from their planet and cut them into a thousand pieces to study their anatomy. Then find some "magic" protein or something that, when injected into a human, prolongs life by 30 days. So then we start harvesting creatures from the planet, because life there doesn't mean anything to us, and we can't understand their language even if they had one. And we might just as well think they are plants and not alive. lol

Soon after, those aliens start making movies about human invasion and harvesting their planet's resources and.....
 
The biblical timeline is closer to 7 thousand years.
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My bad, I got that figure from a few books I've read on the matter, but regardless, it's still only in the thousands of years.
And also note that "religions", have little to do with biblical teaching. The bible, or "God's Word", has been the same "yesterday, today, and forever". But man's own error in understanding and applying it, is what changes throughout history. Not its teaching. For example, Isaiah 40:22, which has always been the same through time, says "It is he who sits above the circle of the earth...". And yet men believed the earth was flat until relativiely recent. Surely that passage states clearly that earth is round, but no belief.
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Alas, the Bible was wrote by people, passed down over the centuries & translation & other errors have cropped up over the millenia. As regards the flatness of the Earth, as you say the word used there is "circle", circle is not the same as sphere, in the same way square is not the same as cube; a coin is flat & circle, so I'm sure you can understand how these things can happen.

So, while the Bible is the word of God to believers, it's also always been tainted by human writers & human interpretation. As Jesus said in Matthew 10:34-36 - Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household.

Out of curiosity (& somewhat back on topic ;)), in the event there are aliens intelligent & communicable with us how would their beliefs (Relegious or scientific) affect our own?
 
Another view on the religious stuff. If you are going to argue that scientists are always changing throughout time on explanations of stuff, then why hasn't religion been consistent? I'm not talking about circle vs sphere, I'm talking about Christianity vs the Romans vs the Greeks vs the Egyptians vs the Myans vs Native Americans. Those people had Gods for all sorts of things, what happened to all those Gods? Did they just vanish when their civilization declined?
 
SNGX1275 said:
Another view on the religious stuff. If you are going to argue that scientists are always changing throughout time on explanations of stuff, then why hasn't religion been consistent? I'm not talking about circle vs sphere, I'm talking about Christianity vs the Romans vs the Greeks vs the Egyptians vs the Myans vs Native Americans. Those people had Gods for all sorts of things, what happened to all those Gods? Did they just vanish when their civilization declined?
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Because "religion" is nothing but a set of traditions that a certain people or person derrived from their scriptual writings. God does not have a "religion". And in the new covenant he only has a few requirements for us. The rest is all how best to live our lives and know His will. Idealy, a believer of the bible and follower of God would not have a denominational "name". At least, the way I see it.

Old religious views "vanish" because they were never true to begin with. Anything that is not true is bound to die, sometimes lasting from minutes to generations, but it will eventually fail.
If somebody walked up to me saying I must pray to the god of the water to get rain, I would probably laugh. But God of the universe, creator of all? This one true God has lasted through every generation, ever growing. Not failing and dieing in invalidity. He has been accepted by nearly every people group in the world, in every nation and tongue and society. And by every mind, weak to strong to dumb to genious.
I think there is some power in that.
 
cool i get to see who all the crack pots are!!!

i beleive bill gates is an alien !!! or maybe the antichrist!!!!
and so is barbra stysand !!!!
to the list you can add such people as Col Sanders,Britteny Spears,
Mr T, the list goes on bahahahahaha :knock: Aliens
only a fool beleives in the wich they cannot see !!!

Aliens bahhaha

why not beleive in ghosts instead !!!

or zombies
lol good forum speilberg !!! applause puke:
 
Well, as I read through the previous posts, I'd have to agree with the ideas, and logic behind some of it. There is in fact, a God that lives in heaven, (Jehovah) and his son who died for our sins (Jesus). Throughout time, as stated in a previous post, many men have written in, and about the bible. Those who have written a piece of the bible's scripture, are writing from what god told them to write. So, god wrote the bible, he just translated it to mankind, to distribute to the rest of mankind, if you get what im saying. The only thing that god asks of us, is to follow his commandments, and do what's right to make your soul pure, and holy. Follow god's commandments, and you will thrive in his holy presence for all of eternity.
 
I am a deist, so my views are very mixed on this one.

I (deist's) believe a higher power whether it be a god, or other force created earth and now just "sits back" and watches us.

Many deists best explain like a "watchmaker god" he/she/it has wound us up, and now lets us go, with our own set of natural laws to keep things in check. So praying to win the lottery does you no real good.

I can not however, dispute the odds of another form of life in the infinite number of planetary systems out there.


hmmm
 
computer help said:
only a fool beleives in the wich they cannot see !!!
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I can't see air. Or electricity. I can't see the atoms that make up what we are. I can't see oxygen or sound or smell. I can't see radio waves. I can't see the code that makes this post happen on Techspot. I can't see a lot of things. But we know they are there because we can feel them. And we can use the effects of them. Such is the same with God.
And not even God, but there have been people that have brought the spiritual world to a visual form of sorts. Unless a person just throws it all away, tosses out all evidence, treats every personal experience by another to be a hoax or nonsense. I would say it's a fool who throws out ALL such evidences without thought.
 
What is God? God is when you prayed for somethin' and he's the one whos ignored it... :p - Got this saying from somewhere else, lolz

My parents believed in GOD, and I think I do too (since I do prayed from time to time) but I am curious and wonder who created GOD... Did he really invented the Universes? how certains are we to believe this?
 
Nobody created God, he has always existed.
Not to get preachy or religious about it, but I recently read and interresting observation.

It is a known law that everything has a begining and end right? At least, everything WE know of in this earth. And everything that has a begining, has a cause. This is the law of cause and effect. Something doesn't begin unless it has a cause. If there is no cause, why would it begin? In the realm of eternity, why would anything, such as a big bang, for example, begin unless there was a cause to begin it? An apple doesn't fall from a tree without cause, such as rotten stem or high wind or being picked.
Now they say, because God had no begining, He is outside the realm of "time", which He created, He then can exist without cause, and so, no begining.

Anyway, I think that's how it goes :) But it was an interresting read. And there is more to it, but that is way off topic.
 
Vigilante.... that is the most inspirational, insightful,down right truthful statment i have heard in a long time.. i am a born again christian and have been for a very long time but i am not perfect in any way and am not condeming and thoughts or theries on the matter at hand, but however i do believe that the mind is very powerfull thing and even today we do not understand the full potential possibilites of what we can do with it... hence aliens and extra terestrial beings from another planet not to be snye.... i mean there is just as much evidence to say that aliens don't exsist as there is to say they do... science is the most powerful thing that the lord christ gave us.. it has opened all sorts of new doors for exploration but the one constant thing that it keeps proving is the bible ( isn't that weird that science would find the answers to the oldest book in the world before someone who has one sitting on the bookshelf at home) when you start these types of conversations they almost always end up in a RELIGIOUS form.. that is because man as whole has taken such an easy conecpt to grasp and turned it into a world organization and business take IRAQ war for example ( they fight for holy ground and noone can just say we can all have it has holy ground, no it has to be for just one arrogant selfesh group instead of the other. WE WILL BE JUST LIKE THE AZTECS AND DESTROY OURSELVES IN STUPIDITY AND QUESTIONS WHEN THE ANSWERS ARE STAIRING US IN THE FACE...they aren't the answers we want to hear though that is why we keep looking... but a man with no direction cannot find where he is going without someone to lead him RIGHT
 
Hmm, nice subject. A very touchy one. :giddy:

Here's my take on this stuff...

Do aliens exist?:
Assuming the universe is infinite, there's an infinite chance other lifeforms exist. But it is also possibility that intellegent beings do not exist infinitely. But, I'm inclined to believe other life exists on other planets. Pure opinion and no factual basis.

On the talk of religion.. aliens. etc... Religion doesn't explain origin. I currently don't assume there is a God, but I accept that a God(s) could exist and be a valid explanation for the create of our universe. If you consider this the complete origin, that's fine. However, it is not an explanation for the origin of God. Absolutely no religion can explain the origin of everything complete and absolute, just as science cannot and never will. "God just exists" isn't an explanation. It's a fact / opinion with no backing.

My idea on this is that origin and end as what we understand doesn't apply to the Universe. It can't, because it breaks its own observable laws of creating something from nothing and creating nothing from something. Origin and ending don't apply here and no religion or science completely explains it all. So quit quit thinking about it and spend some time with your family... make yourself a sandwich... go excercise... pay your bills... This is worthless to ponder.

As far as creating what you and I know as tangible on this planet.. Sure, God is a very simple explanation. And there's a great thing to fall back on when holy texts and religions can't explain something, "God is testing your faith". This, as well, is also valid because it is very possible. Dinosaur bones, carbon dating, people living almost a thousand years in age... It's all testing your faith.

Alas, the Bible was wrote by people, passed down over the centuries & translation & other errors have cropped up over the millenia.
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I believe the above. However, it is "very easy" to counter this with the same logic that dictates holy text in the first place. Because it is directly the work of God (ironically through others), it shall always remain true, no matter what happens. Sounds rediculous to me, but when a God is involved.... who can argue? :giddy:


I don't believe in religion (Christianity in particular, because it is mostly what I have been exposed to), but I certainly don't discount it. It's all very possible. The only problem I have is how many people have been born into a religion, instead of actually sampling, reading, learning all religions and not making an informed choice on which one is right for them.
 
Finchy said:
I have a theory about the universe that I call
'The Box Theory'

If the universe is expanding constantly, then it must be expanding into something, there must be something outside the universe for it to expand into. Also, when does the outer thing end, there must be some kind of end to it.
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You know, I had an interesting though many years ago. Of course, I don't know how the universe really works, but it is just a thrown together idea...

Everything seems to gravitate around something else.. atoms all the way to solar systems. If an infinite number of objects are orbiting each other, they would get denser and larger, denser and larger and denser and larger.

Eventually speeds would be incredible. Things orbiting on the "outside" of this huge mess would be fastest... Kind of like a hard drive platter (Computer related!). Since "time" has been unequivocally proven to slow down at great speeds, then there is a theoretical limit to what acceleration time can exist at.

On the out edges of these layers of orbiting things, the speeds would be so great that time slows to nothing. This would be the edge of our Universe.

For example, our Earth orbits the sun at about 60,000 MPH. The sun carries our solar system in an orbit around the center of our galaxy at about 70,000 MPH. And our galaxy is zipping along at 500,000 MPH or so... And so on. The bigger entities get, the greater the speed will be. It's this motion that governs time as we know it. So what I thought up as a child almost makes sense. :)

The neat thing about this thought is that it doesn't set a "exists" or "doesn't" boundary. Time just sort tapers off.. What's past the time barrier? Who knows? Time doesn't exist that far.. So this becomes very theoretical.
 
Rick said:
You know, I had an interesting though many years ago. Of course, I don't know how the universe really works, but it is just a thrown together idea...

Everything seems to gravitate around something else.. atoms all the way to solar systems. If an infinite number of objects are orbiting each other, they would get denser and larger, denser and larger and denser and larger.

Eventually speeds would be incredible. Things orbiting on the "outside" of this huge mess would be fastest... Kind of like a hard drive platter (Computer related!). Since "time" has been unequivocally proven to slow down at great speeds, then there is a theoretical limit to what acceleration time can exist at.

On the out edges of these layers of orbiting things, the speeds would be so great that time slows to nothing. This would be the edge of our Universe.

For example, our Earth orbits the sun at about 60,000 MPH. The sun carries our solar system in an orbit around the center of our galaxy at about 70,000 MPH. And our galaxy is zipping along at 500,000 MPH or so... And so on. The bigger entities get, the greater the speed will be. It's this motion that governs time as we know it. So what I thought up as a child almost makes sense. :)

The neat thing about this thought is that it doesn't set a "exists" or "doesn't" boundary. Time just sort tapers off.. What's past the time barrier? Who knows? Time doesn't exist that far.. So this becomes very theoretical.
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Ehehe I like this theory... It kinda linkage to mine, or perhap that's what I think...
 
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