learninmypc
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So far I have not been locked out.
Yahoo is locking some users out of Mail for using ad blockers
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cliffordcooley
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If you are not being locked out of Yahoo, does that mean your adblocker sux? lol
Maybe we can use Yahoo as an adblocker performance test. If we are being locked out, we know our adblocker is working.
Maybe we can use Yahoo as an adblocker performance test. If we are being locked out, we know our adblocker is working.
Camikazi
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I think it might be the other way around considering this is Yahoo, if you are using an adblocker and are not locked out then that is the blocker to use since they can't detect it.
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DelJo63
1) it can be done with the right settings
2) I don't use any adblocker per se
3) but do block many domains via entries in \drivers\etc\hosts
Zahid Iqbal1
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Very good. Ad blockers is going to kill companies revenue. So it should be treated very hardly
Ziffel
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As a reader of a tech site, It is very unlikely that you are in Yahoo's demographic, and they couldn't care less if you ignore them. Their market is middle age (and up) women and non-tech oriented people. That market greatly outnumbers the tech savvy, and Yahoo is doing well financially.
Ziffel
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No, it just means you aren't in the test. Yahoo is testing response on a very limited number of accounts, it's not universal, so if you're not blocked it says nothing about your ad-blocker.
cliffordcooley
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My response was sarcastic, a bit of dry/bad humor. From my stand point it doesn't matter either way which direction Yahoo goes after this initial test. I only hope the other sites don't follow suit, or I will blacklist them as well. Then we will know how well our Ad-blockers are designed.
Ads have gotten so bad they equate to having a billboard every 5 feet on the Interstate. Of coarse I will block them every chance I get. Especially when the majority are repulsive or offensive ads. I block ads in general and will not spend my time sifting/sorting which sites/ads I'm willing to accept.
I will continue to recommend the use of Ad-blockers without making exceptions. There has got to be a way for sites to manage without annoying people that visit. Blocking the annoyances is the only way to make them pursue alternate options. If we make exceptions to ad-blockers or choose not to use them altogether, we are not doing our part to make the Internet a more pleasant experience for all. If there is anything on the Internet that we actually need, it will survive without ads. People will find a way to make it happen.
captaincranky
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Right, Good luck with that theory. I don't know how much you buy from the ads you run into, but my purchases from them are somewhere between zero and less than zero.
The ads are no longer generating sales because they're beyond the saturation point of A, available capital, and perhaps more importantly B, many people don't want or need the crap the ads are pushing so aggressively. Remember, the less a product is of actual value or utility, the harder it is to get people to buy it, and the more you have to spend on advertising.
So, Yahoo doesn't want the ad buyers to smarten up, and stop pissing their money away on ads which don't do anything, so they shift the blame to ad blockers.
Really, the whole scenario is transparent at the 4th grade level.
Zahid Iqbal1
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My experience is different in this scenario. I have got handsome deals from ads. Every body has its own experiences from ads
captaincranky
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I get good deals from ads via emails from the re-sellers where I normally purchase equipment .
OTOH, a lot of their email, particularly that of Amazon.com, could just as easily be deleted as "spam".
"Things normally bought together", and, "recommended just for you" ads are the worst. First, for things like music CDs, 90% of those which they recommend, I've already owned for a couple of decades before Amazon deluded itself into thinking they were doing me a "favor" by offering them to me.. The remaining dreck, is almost exclusively things I wouldn't be caught dead listening to.
But more importantly, the follow up messages which in essence say, "you dun good by buying from us, so you should buy more", I find terminally offensive. Rephrased, "You didn't give us all your money last time, so how about if you cough it up now", just signals their greed in big red letters.
I don't know how much more plainly I could state the concept to you that, "the more ads there are present, the more ads the next seller must place to get their share of the pie. So, the amount of ads seems to be going up logarithmically.
If I want or need something, I'll shop for it. In other words, I'll go to the ads, in lieu of having them rammed down my throat.
Also, the concept that "ad blockers" are ruining business for so and so, is way beyond stupid. If people actually wanted to see and/or buy that crap, they simply wouldn't have installed the ad blocker in the first place.
So, Yahoo blows a bunch of sunshine up prospective ad buyer's behinds, and when it turns out they were lying in a bold face manner about the potential rewards of buying ad space from them, they blame it on ad blockers.
This is a concept traditionally referred to as "passing the buck".
"The dog at homework", same theme, subrogated blame.
Why don't you read up on "propaganda": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques
It might help level the playing field for you. Because you can be damned well certain whoever is writing those ads, knows it forwards and backwards.
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This is because all search engines are earning through ads. what a world
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