Your pirated copy of Windows might have just stopped working

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Black flag down: Microsoft has closed an activation loophole that was widely used by software pirates to run Windows and Office without a legitimate license. The group behind the activation tool has confirmed that the method no longer works following the November 2025 Patch Tuesday update.

Known as the KMS38 activator, the open-source tool was created by a group called Massgrave, where MAS stands for Microsoft Activation Scripts. It was widely regarded as one of the easiest and safest ways to activate Windows and Office without paying, allowing users to install all official updates just like any legitimately licensed copy.

Following the latest update, however, PCs activated with the tool are losing their activation, with users now seeing messages urging them to purchase a legitimate license from Microsoft or its authorized resellers. Legal Windows 11 licenses can be found online for as low as $10, while Office 2021 Pro is available for around $39.

KMS38 has circulated online for years across software forums, piracy websites, and GitHub mirrors, attracting a large community of both tech-savvy users and newcomers. Curiously, the download is actually hosted on two Microsoft-owned platforms: Azure DevOps and GitHub. Massgrave's developers also maintain a self-hosted Git repository and a website offering step-by-step activation guides.

While some argue that blocking the KMS38 activation method is a step toward protecting users from malware, others counter that KMS38 is an open-source tool that anyone can inspect for malicious code. Several reputable tech outlets, including ZDNet, have tested the activation method and reported that it works exactly as advertised.

Massgrave's latest changelog notes that the main KMS activation option has been removed from the tool following Microsoft's block. The developers are now urging users to switch to the HWID (Hardware ID) or TSforge activation methods, which still function as expected. They also say they're hopeful they can circumvent the block in the future.

This crackdown on unofficial activation methods comes just weeks after Microsoft tightened the Windows 11 installation process by blocking all known methods of setting up the OS without a Microsoft account. The update now makes it impossible to install Windows 11 offline using a local account.

Windows and Office piracy has long been a major challenge for Microsoft, though the company has historically taken a relatively relaxed stance on the issue.

Bill Gates even once admitted that piracy helped supercharge Windows adoption and cement its status as the dominant desktop operating system. But Microsoft's recent actions suggest that Redmond may finally be shifting away from its formerly lenient attitude toward piracy.

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Only a true id1ot would use a pirated copy of Windows, when a genuine copy can be used free of charge without any notable restrictions. Some minor customizations that can't be done via the GUI in the unlicensed versions, can still be done without problems via registry editing.
 
HWID and Tsforge are their reference, permanent activation methods, so I think it's not a big loss that KMS, not permanent, has hit the coffin. Anyhow, changes on Microsoft's side have, unwittingly, broken their methods in the past, driving them to create better ones.
 
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Only a true id1ot would use a pirated copy of Windows, when a genuine copy can be used free of charge without any notable restrictions. Some minor customizations that can't be done via the GUI in the unlicensed versions, can still be done without problems via registry editing.
Yeah, no, constant nagging via notifications, sometimes even in full screen, and a big watermark that's on top of each and every window you have, and the total lack of customization, including dark/light theme, start menu, taskbar, and everything else, is anything but "minor".
 
There's no such thing as pirated "copy". We're not in the 90s. Everyone uses the same ISO they download from Microsoft themselves.

Your _key_ might be counterfeit. But of course, this is just the usual clickbait journalism, no one uses KMS, because HWID is better in almost all cases, and it's been the default activation method in Massgrave since forever.
 
There's no such thing as pirated "copy". We're not in the 90s. Everyone uses the same ISO they download from Microsoft themselves.

Your _key_ might be counterfeit. But of course, this is just the usual clickbait journalism, no one uses KMS, because HWID is better in almost all cases, and it's been the default activation method in Massgrave since forever.
Yes, one could argue it's not piracy in the classical sense.

Let's say that cars were free, but to use them, a key had to be bought. Eventually, makers decided to let the car work without a key, but buying one would remove nagging notifications from the dashboard. MAS is doing the equivalent of that without buying a key.
 
In Windows Vista, after the trial period expired, users were limited to a one-hour session, faced a black screen background and the OS operated in reduced functionality mode. This suggests Microsoft was confident in the quality and value of their OS. In Windows 7 (which technically was even better os), however for some “mysterious” reason, Microsoft removed those restrictions and presented a much more polished and user-friendly experience.
 
In Windows Vista, after the trial period expired, users were limited to a one-hour session, faced a black screen background and the OS operated in reduced functionality mode. This suggests Microsoft was confident in the quality and value of their OS. In Windows 7 (which technically was even better os), however for some “mysterious” reason, Microsoft removed those restrictions and presented a much more polished and user-friendly experience.
Vista Ultimate was relatively awesome with the animated background and that robot game they had. I wish'd they'd release that as an stand-alone game. That said I never have bought a copy of Windows by itself in 32 years of use since 3.11. Always with a new computer. I should feel bad about that but since Windows is a below average operating system that seems to be getting worse lately and they don't care about their customers, Nope, I don't feel bad at all.
 
In Windows Vista, after the trial period expired, users were limited to a one-hour session, faced a black screen background and the OS operated in reduced functionality mode. This suggests Microsoft was confident in the quality and value of their OS. In Windows 7 (which technically was even better os), however for some “mysterious” reason, Microsoft removed those restrictions and presented a much more polished and user-friendly experience.
Vista wasn't bad if you had a system that could run it. The main problem with Vista was that MS set the minimum requirements far too low and it ended up on systems that were out dated and didn't get driver updates. If you had new hardware with appropriate drivers when Vista came out you were fine.
 
Windows runs normally without being activated. You'd just lose customization settings, which could be over written with third party software anyway. Microsoft really wants people to use Windows 11. They don't stop anyone from doing so, if unactivated. Ad money goes away.
 
Windows runs normally without being activated. You'd just lose customization settings, which could be over written with third party software anyway. Microsoft really wants people to use Windows 11. They don't stop anyone from doing so, if unactivated. Ad money goes away.
What I want to know is why I have to login to an MS account on a Windows PC, but that PC might not be activated and I can't use it. If I have a valid MS account then why does the device matter?
 
In Windows Vista, after the trial period expired, users were limited to a one-hour session, faced a black screen background and the OS operated in reduced functionality mode. This suggests Microsoft was confident in the quality and value of their OS. In Windows 7 (which technically was even better os), however for some “mysterious” reason, Microsoft removed those restrictions and presented a much more polished and user-friendly experience.
IIRC, Windows XP was even worse/ The OS just stopped working, period, after 30 days.

In all likelihood, the Prices we pay for keys. is the same as OEMs pay for theirs.

However, I have this nagging premonition that Windows 12 is going to be "rented", via subscription. Let's hope it's just my normal, intrinsic, paranoia. Will it require "TPM 3.0"? Who knows. If it does, hold onto your wallets kidz, it's going to be a bumpy ride.
 
What I want to know is why I have to login to an MS account on a Windows PC, but that PC might not be activated and I can't use it. If I have a valid MS account then why does the device matter?
Because the M$ account was free to begin with?

I have all the parts to build another PC laying around, and a key to Windows 10 Pro. I'm afraid to try and activate it, as I'm liable to get jacked up with, "get Windows 11", nag screens forever, when I do.
 
My bet is they force everyone on M$ account and then put a subscription on it

-I smell an anti-trust lawsuit incoming if that were the case...

Microsoft is a victim of it's own success. It's *THE OS* for most people and that comes with some limitations on how badly you can **** people over.
 
Microsoft calling anyone else thieves is pure hypocrisy..
The real "thieves" might be Newegg, Amazon, and anyone else selling "OEM" copies of Windows at MSRP.
Seriously, if anyone else can get bulk industrial keys, sell them for < $30.00 and still make a profit, how much can the cardboard box, a single layer DVD blank, or a cheapo 8 GB flash drive add to the dealer cost? Even that's assuming you don't simply opt for a digital download, which costs them basically nothing. You know, someone's got those gaming withdrawal shakes, and you need your Windows fix, NOW..!

I used to sell audio retail, and the profit margin on "accessories" was staggering. Now you would think that if the store bought an item for $5.00 and sold it for $10.00 they made a "100% profit". Not true, they use "GPM" to do the calculation. (Gross Profit Margin).

Basically, you divide the dealer cost by the selling price. In this case 10. goes into 5 1/2 or .5 times. Then you subtract 1.0 from ,5. which gives you the (GPM) percentage, which in this case is 50%, not "100%".

It gets worse from there. You buy an item for $25.00, sell it for $100,00 and you've only made 75% GPM, not the 300% it appears to be.

Ironically, using the GPM calculation you can never make "100%" profit. 99,xxxxxx is the only answer possible.

All things considered, it would be "enlightening", to find out the actual dealer cost of those little cardboard Windows packages
 
Only a true id1ot would use a pirated copy of Windows, when a genuine copy can be used free of charge without any notable restrictions. Some minor customizations that can't be done via the GUI in the unlicensed versions, can still be done without problems via registry editing.

I would be very careful about recommending to people to edit the registry. That type of thing should only be done by very technical people like computer programmers or network administrators, and only after doing a full system backup of all your files. One wrong registry entry can completely blue screen your computer and make you lose years of files
 
My bet is they force everyone on M$ account and then put a subscription on it
I've been saying that's eventually going to happen, literally, for years. Could Windows 12 be the one? Will it be nicknamed, "Windows Dirty dozen", after the movie?
 
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