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YouTube may intentionally cause frustration with even more ads on music

By Greg S ยท 12 replies
Mar 21, 2018
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  1. YouTube has long since been under scrutiny from record labels and the recording industry for allowing mostly free access to music and lyric videos. Lyor Cohen, the global head of music at YouTube, has shared that there is a strong push to try and get more users to pay for a new subscription service to quiet "noise" being made by the recording industry.

    The new changes made have already undergone testing by several thousand Google employees and the results are abysmal to the user experience. Increasing ad counts are said to "frustrate and seduce" end users into paying up for a better experience. There will be exclusive content available to paying users such as playlists, videos, and behind the scenes tours with artists, but that is little consolation for intentionally damaging a free service.

    Incoming changes are meant to directly target users that use YouTube as an alternative to Spotify, Pandora, or Apple Music. It is currently very easy to build up a playlist and listen for several hours without encountering too many advertisements, but that will soon change.

    "You’re not going to be happy after you are jamming ‘Stairway to Heaven’ and you get an ad right after that."

    Music industry professionals are currently looking at YouTube the same way that Spotify was treated before it experienced exceptional growth. There is a large user base just sitting around of which only a small portion currently pays for content through a subscription. Pressure is being put on to share more revenue, and YouTube is responding with the creation of a paid service that could bring in significant amounts of new cash flow.

    As a 30-year veteran in the music industry before moving to YouTube, Lyor Cohen has managed to convince YouTube to sell out and "be good partners". He declares, "There’s a lot more people in our funnel that we can frustrate and seduce to become subscribers. Once we do that, trust me, all that noise will be gone and articles people write about that noise will be gone."

    In 2017, ad revenue from music streaming services accounted for less than 10 percent of music industry revenue in the United States. Just how badly YouTube plans to intentionally annoy its own users with ads remains to be seen.

    Would you be willing to pay for a YouTube music subscription service to avoid being bombarded with ads?

    Update: A representative has reached out with the following statement.

    Our top priority at YouTube is to deliver a great user experience and that includes ensuring users do not encounter excessive ad loads. We do not seek to specifically increase ad loads across YouTube. For a specific subset of users who use YouTube like a paid music service today - and would benefit most from additional features - we may show more ads or promotional prompts to upsell to our paid service.

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  2. GreyFoxx

    GreyFoxx TS Booster Posts: 96   +65

    There is an ad before 90% of any video I watch, even if it has sub 1,000 views.
     
  3. cuerdc

    cuerdc TS Booster Posts: 177   +41

    Nope but use ad blocker anyway and sound quality is poor on YouTube for music.
    But looks like illegal music downloads might gain popularity again

    If there is a penny to be made somewhere they will grab it.
     
  4. Matt B

    Matt B TS Rookie

    This is why adblocking extensions are so popular.
     
    infiltrator likes this.
  5. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,263   +4,931

    I will only be annoyed for so long and then decide to leave. I may repeatedly return, but the amount of annoyance will dictate how long I stay each time.
     
  6. erickmendes

    erickmendes TS Evangelist Posts: 567   +246

    Ad blockers don't block ads inside streams...
     
  7. erickmendes

    erickmendes TS Evangelist Posts: 567   +246

    Youtube ad's are annoying, but I don't use youtube for music anyway. I pay for google music, so better luck next time youtube.
     
  8. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 5,249   +3,664

    Here's another potential business failure. Rather than continue success by improving the product, they carve it up for short term profits and risk failure of the business. Like Sears, K-Mart and so many others, their greatness will fade and another competitor will step in. Unfortunately it is the new business model .....
     
  9. cuerdc

    cuerdc TS Booster Posts: 177   +41

    Greed media costs are disgraceful for the amount of different places you need subscriptions from to keep the average family home media happy.
    Only use youtube really for how to's now and then, kids more so with absolute trash. Music now and then but rare rather own library or dab/internet rabio or music channel.
     
  10. seefizzle

    seefizzle TS Evangelist Posts: 414   +288

    When websites and services annoy me enough I leave. If your strategy is to annoy me into giving you money I'll just skip your website completely. (I'm looking at you pinterest)

    Good luck getting people to pay for youtube though.
     
  11. Dimitrios

    Dimitrios TS Guru Posts: 430   +310

    I don't get it, YOUTUBE makes Millions and so do MUSIC artist. Where is the struggle? Why? Greed.............
     
  12. "Would you be willing to pay for a YouTube music subscription service to avoid being bombarded with ads?"
    If it was literally the only source of music on the entire planet (including instruments) then maybe.
     
    wiyosaya likes this.
  13. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,819   +2,173

    Actually, uBlock Origin currently does an excellent job of blocking all ads in youtub video.

    If uBlock Origin no longer works as well, I will not be frustrated or seduced into paying for their service. I will simply stop viewing the extremely small amount of videos that I do watch on youtub.
     
    erickmendes likes this.

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