AMD Bulldozer FX 8150p vs Intel i7-2600k for gaming

[red1776]

These guys are at it again. they get 3/4 through the video "review" and then state that they are using an Engineering Sample.


http://lenzfire.com/2011/10/amd-bulldozer-fx-8150-vs-phenom-ii-1100t-vs-i7-2600k-video-review-31439/

 

[Mizzou]

I'll need to see reviews from some reliable sites before I abandon ship. Seems like we should be well past the engineering sample phase. While it wouldn't surprise me to see the 2600K hold an edge I still expect Bulldozer to at least be in the chase.

 

[dividebyzero]

If the Lab501 results are correct then a Phenom II X6 1100T at 4.2GHz runs SuperPI faster than a FX-8150P does at 5GHz, 16.975s versus 17.019s. That's kind of hard to believe, hopefully we'll see some reviews tomorrow that will settle the matter once and for all.

Monstru (Lab501) obviously fully deserves all the plaudits for his overclocking exploits (MSI 2011 etc.). He is virtually the only reviewer to achieve 5GHz on these chips. 4.6G seems about the limit for air or all-in-one water loop...maybe your H100 would have better luck. Personally I'd say BD isn't worth the effort - and it's definitely an affront to the "FX" nameplate

Whilst we could overclock it to 5GHz you'd need a dedicated dual-rad to keep it usable, and even in our 4.7GHz test state it was making our NH-D14 seriously hot to the touch.

Tom Logan (OC3D FX-8150 review)

 

[SKYSTAR]

horrible gaming performance , AMD rest in peace (like the undertaker said )

 

[tweakboy]

I would say Sandy for Gaming. 8 Cores is pointless in gaming... thx

 

[tweakboy]

Well, games don't need 8 cores to run.

Games barely take up 2 cores of a quad processor. About 70 percent usage in Crysis 2

What matters is how fast the Bulldozer cores are and Sandy cores are simply faster as shown in benchies.

2600k any day over bulldozer. Ill take the 4 logical cores over 4 physical cores.

 

[Sarcasm]

Well, games don't need 8 cores to run.

Games barely take up 2 cores of a quad processor. About 70 percent usage in Crysis 2

What matters is how fast the Bulldozer cores are and Sandy cores are simply faster as shown in benchies.

2600k any day over bulldozer. Ill take the 4 logical cores over 4 physical cores.

That pretty much sums up why Bulldozer's gaming performance isn't as high as everyone expects, because games barely use 2-4 threads (not even cores) at this point.

So would it be interesting to think that the more games use more and more threads, bulldozer's gaming potential will keep rising until 8 full threads are useable?

Heck, it's probably the same reason why the i7-980X doesn't blow the 2600K out of the water for this reason.

While I'm sure we're a LONG way off before games start actually use more than 4 threads minimum, we're heading in that direction starting with BF3.

 

[red1776]

Games barely take up 2 cores of a quad processor.

you should look up game performance reviews over the lasy year. you might be surprised how few use only two cores. Also how many games perform significantly lower, or are unplayable on dual cores.

About 70 percent usage in Crysis 2

Crysis 2 CPU

From Techspot review of Crysis 2:

Crysis 2 fully utilizes four cores and is seemingly unplayable on dual-core processors. The Phenom II X2 560 averaged just 24fps while the Core 2 Duo E8500 was even slower at 23fps

Dirt 3 CPU:

BFBC2 CPU:

Heck, it's probably the same reason why the i7-980X doesn't blow the 2600K out of the water for this reason.

its because at higher resolutions the vast majority of games are GPU dependent.

 

[LNCPapa]

Red - your last post has given me a good idea for a new thread... 2 new threads actually, one for CPU(s) and one for GPU(s). Time to waste a bunch of bandwidth!

 

[red1776]

Red - your last post has given me a good idea for a new thread... 2 new threads actually, one for CPU(s) and one for GPU(s). Time to waste a bunch of bandwidth!

Hehe, I'm in. I graph CPU and GPU on every game anyway. the 800 x 600 may be a deal breaker for me though :wave:

 

[LNCPapa]

800x600 is the size of the taskman cap, not the game. But after looking at a few of these in a row I may adjust that to a smaller size anyway.