AMD CPUs and GPUs will power the future world's fastest supercomputer, 10x faster than...

[wiyosaya]

By that logic we also have Intel to thank for $30 AMD processors as well as the AMD Vega Toaster. Absolutely nothing makes better or cheaper GPU Cheesy Toast than AMD.

Well, there we disagree. And doesn't Intel have $30 procs, too?

A slightly fairer comparison would be the Radeon VII vs the Titan V, as both products are targeted at FP64 throughput. Not on price, of course, as the AMD card is roughly a third the cost of the Nvidia product!

To follow up with the Radeon VII post, it shows clear strength in N-Body simulation runs. This, besides requiring FP64 in GPUs that run the project, is what Milkway@home requires.

Here is one user at Milkway@Home

Computers belonging to jpmboy

Here are links to two of this guy's computers one running a Titan V, and the other a Radeon VII
Titan V - https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=776231&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
Radeon VII - https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=794800&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

Lower times are better, obviously!
Note that the Radeon VII is, minimally, keeping pace with the Titan V, or should I say that the other way around???

 

[Ravalo]

It didn't do everything well, but quite excelled in certain workloads: And their Instinct cards do better yet at some of these ...

Ironically enough, the Radeon VII is just a radeon instinct MI50 with halved fp64 performance and a 200 mhz overclock on the core

The AMD Radeon VII Review: An Unexpected Shot At The High-End

www.anandtech.com

 

[neeyik]

To follow up with the Radeon VII post, it shows clear strength in N-Body simulation runs. This, besides requiring FP64 in GPUs that run the project, is what Milkway@home requires.

Here is one user at Milkway@Home
Computers belonging to jpmboy
Here are links to two of this guy's computers one running a Titan V, and the other a Radeon VII
Titan V - https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=776231&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=
Radeon VII - https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/results.php?hostid=794800&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

Lower times are better, obviously!
Note that the Radeon VII is, minimally, keeping pace with the Titan V, or should I say that the other way around???

The R-VII really is something else, especially given how good the GV100 chip is at FP64 throughput. Really wish I'd bought one when the prices for them were sensible - now it's really hard to get one at a decent price (but they're still cheaper than Titan Vs!).

I personally prefer AMD's approach compared to Nvidia's when it comes to creating different GPU architectures for the various market sectors - GCN 5.1 and RDNA complement each other rather well, as do Volta and Turing, but to a far lesser extent.

 

[amstech]

As others mentioned, AMD's compute capabilities far exceed Nv's, and therefore, AMD IS the better choice here.

I knew this article was talking about the workhorse side of GPU's and not the gaming side, I figured folks would know what I meant, but my fault for not clarifying.

Also, NV doesn't have the best GPU's..

Yea they do if your talking gaming products, they make up 84% of steam users and 75% of the discrete GPU market.
It's a better product with superior performance, features, drivers, software, polish and execution, going on about 10 years.

they have a lead in gaming performance at 2070 Super and above, however, up to that tier, AMD is holding their ground.

I wouldn't call 16% of Steam users having AMD GPU's holding thier ground, and Nvidia rules across the board, at all price points, according to Steams hardware survey.
Not trying to rain on AMD, these are simply the results.

RTX is not really an 'advantage'... its a proverbial gimmick that one barely notices anyway due to how fast paced action in games which support RTX usually is.

It's an advantage no question, while its still in its infancy, when done right its quite the difference as shown in a few new specific games, and for old games its great to see them brought back to life looking better then ever, like Quake 2.

 

[JimboJoneson]

Ironically enough, the Radeon VII is just a radeon instinct MI50 with halved fp64 performance and a 200 mhz overclock on the core

The AMD Radeon VII Review: An Unexpected Shot At The High-End

www.anandtech.com

Yup ... and that explains the mediocre gaming performance ... lol.

 

[Ravalo]

Yup ... and that explains the mediocre gaming performance ... lol.

Tbh it shouldn’t have been marketed as an rtx 2080 competitor, it should’ve been marketed as a “workstation card that can also game” lol

 

[toooooot]

And when not in use, it ll mine bitcoin at one bitcoin per minute. Which will only take 50 years to pay off the supercomputer cost at this rate.
I am not a scientist.

 

[CharmsD]

And when not in use, it ll mine bitcoin at one bitcoin per minute. Which will only take 50 years to pay off the supercomputer cost at this rate.

Show your work! ;p

I am not a scientist.

Sure you are, you just did science! Corning makes "gorilla glass" with a process that uses pressurized "hot salt". That makes glass harder, so would it be possible to use a different process to make glass _________?

 

[mattferg]

Impressive!
I wouldnt consider a Radeon GPU but theres no doubt AMD is coming around after 15 years of being the little guy, nothing lasts forever. Nvidia still has the best GPUs and there is no close 2nd, but hopefully AMD improves here because Nvidias pricing is just assinine.

Gaming this might be the case, but in terms of compute AMD per $ is better. They've got MUCH better OpenCL performance.

 

[mattferg]

I knew this article was talking about the workhorse side of GPU's and not the gaming side, I figured folks would know what I meant, but my fault for not clarifying.

Yea they do if your talking gaming products, they make up 84% of steam users and 75% of the discrete GPU market.
It's a better product with superior performance, features, drivers, software, polish and execution, going on about 10 years.

I wouldn't call 16% of Steam users having AMD GPU's holding thier ground, and Nvidia rules across the board, at all price points, according to Steams hardware survey.
Not trying to rain on AMD, these are simply the results.


It's an advantage no question, while its still in its infancy, when done right its quite the difference as shown in a few new specific games, and for old games its great to see them brought back to life looking better then ever, like Quake 2.

Buddy, having sold more cards isn't having better cards. It's called marketing.

I run two nVidia cards for work right now, but the RDNA architecture on Navi works amazingly well for what I do. I'm tempted to switch. If a competitor does well this is a GOOD thing, as it means your preferred supplier will up their game or lower costs. Don't be such a fanboy.

 

[amstech]

Gaming this might be the case, but in terms of compute AMD per $ is better. They've got MUCH better OpenCL performance.

Absolutely.
I've setup a few FirePro's in my day and they work great, I always liked the Hydravision feature.
I had one PC with two GPU's running 8 monitors for a Hospital, monitoring all the APC's and switches (PRTGMon), and it worked really well.

 

[CharmsD]

Buddy, having sold more cards isn't having better cards. It's called marketing.

AMD must be ecstatic over their low volume, fairly slow, driverless, pretty well marketed, sub-standard, video cards.

Gettin' it done there AMDEEE!

I run two nVidia cards for work right now, but the RDNA architecture on Navi works amazingly well for what I do. I'm tempted to switch. If a competitor does well this is a GOOD thing, as it means your preferred supplier will up their game or lower costs. Don't be such a fanboy.

"preferred supplier will up their game", Nvidia? They're at the top of the performance and price heap, what have they to gain by spending money on "speed" that no one needs? Oh yeah raytracing for the masses.

Hint about prices: they NEVER go down. NEVER. It must stink to have posted "wait for big navi" for a year only to have AMD turn around and stab fans in the back by launching a "LITTLE" navi - in 2Q_2020.

 

[Markoni35]

Wow, Radeon VII beats the crap out of Nvidia Titan XP in those tests. I bet it would be the best card for crypto mining ever.

 

[JimboJoneson]

Wow, Radeon VII beats the crap out of Nvidia Titan XP in those tests. I bet it would be the best card for crypto mining ever.

It was good, for all out performance in mining ... the issue was the relatively high power draw while doing so made it not really be too terribly far ahead of others.

Here's a positive review.

AMD Radeon VII: the Best Graphic Card for Ethereum Mining? - The Bitcoin News

On February 7, AMD threw the Radeon VII into the ring against NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX series. It was not enough for the performance crown in the gaming

thebitcoinnews.com