Agree, I also use Ryzen 5 3500 for my workload (programming & run VM), didn't need powerfull Graphic, so I use GT 710 pair with my Ryzen. If R5 3500 is APU would be betterThe most popular GPU on amazon is the NVIDIA GT 710. The reason is people want a more powerful CPU than a budget APU and they need graphics. AMD, by launching this, is removing the problem of wanting more power but no demand for a discrete GPU. Also, the Intel parts with IGPU are not good value and their IGPU is weak compared to AMD.