AMD just slashed the price of its Ryzen Threadripper 1950X to $880

[Boilerhog146]

If they are really outselling Skylake X, why would they drop the price? That makes no sense. Unless Intel's 8th gen has them worried about losing sales to the mainstream platform, then it makes more sense. Or possibly all the gamers who bought TR are disappointed, and flooding the market with used TR parts? TR is great for those who need the threads, but I suspect many buyers didn't need or use the threads, and are regretting jumping on TR for brand loyalty reasons.

I hated Economics.and the teacher.lol.also being a tradesman.bricklayer/ boilermaker,I know a little more about how a foundry works than the economics.you can't just fire it up ,shut it down, fire it up ,as you feel like it.there's so much prep work to be done before the bake.supplementing supply ,isn't as easy as you make it sound.They don't just bake CPU either.pcb.GPU,memory ,mother boards from all vendors,chips of all sorts run through a foundries process.you don't just call them up and place an order.and they ship it the next day.unless your Jensun Huang. 1070ti sir,yes sir,coming right up sir! Would you like a waterblock with that? Lol.
I'll make a guess that they want to clear out as much stock as they can to make room for TR2.which is coming 1st quarter 2018. If I read correctly.no sense in saving them.there's a lot of work to do in the meantime.

 

[Puiu]

Not really.but for a single post .its a few.
Where is the marketing that AMD put out stating that buying TR you can use X memory but if you populate all slots it defaults to Y speeds .had to find that out the hard way.
smart people learn from their mistakes.I learn from others mistakes when ever there is a lesson to be learned.steves review was revealing to say the least.
Spin it any way ya like .the memory controller is broken.ie: Does not work as it should.
Was not disclosed either.which makes it deceitful.
I wonder just how many Gamers,workstation/server user that bought in.now regret the purchase after finding out about the memory controller issue.I would have definitely regretted the purchase.and returned the kit.

Believe it or not most people fixed that by just buying RAM that was in the supported list of that motherboard and not just any random RAM on the market and doing a BIOS update. (there are also many places on the internet that keep track of compatible RAM and the settings used for them)
And did you know that many that reported problems with keeping their RAM settings just had bad CMOS batteries (Gigabyte FTW)?

 

[Boilerhog146]

Believe it or not most people fixed that by just buying RAM that was in the supported list of that motherboard and not just any random RAM on the market and doing a BIOS update. (there are also many places on the internet that keep track of compatible RAM and the settings used for them)
And did you know that many that reported problems with keeping their RAM settings just had bad CMOS batteries (Gigabyte FTW)?

I Believe it ,I've read about it.it fixed some ,not all,and not everyone is so tech savvy.for bios updates .or choosing memory.I never read about bad cmos batteries.I think Steve would be using memory on the QVL,anyway.to ensure compatibility.I would hope top brands like g-skill and corsair would be on the QVL,as well.I had no need to view the list.
That also has nothing to do with being unable to fully populate the board,and run at specs specified.underclocking by default.thats the real issue here.try spinning it again!

 

[Lionvibez]

Are his reasons necessary? I'm sure you're familiar with the term "brand loyalty". It's a foreign thing to me but very common to millions of others.

I'm not debating if he is a fanboy or not that is obvious was just curious what those reasons are.

 

[hood6558]

"And the whole "they are regretting" is just you speaking without any proof."
I said, "I suspect", nothing definite. I suspected this would be the case before the first one was sold, just from reading all the posts from gamers who absolutely "had to have Threadripper, hurry up and start selling them!", many who were claiming to "need all the threads" for streaming or other future endeavors. I understand their enthusiasm, and also understand the nature of "buyer's remorse". So, you're right, no proof, but I can read between the lines as well as anybody.

 

[Boilerhog146]

"And the whole "they are regretting" is just you speaking without any proof."
I said, "I suspect", nothing definite. I suspected this would be the case before the first one was sold, just from reading all the posts from gamers who absolutely "had to have Threadripper, hurry up and start selling them!", many who were claiming to "need all the threads" for streaming or other future endeavors. I understand their enthusiasm, and also understand the nature of "buyer's remorse". So, you're right, no proof, but I can read between the lines as well as anybody.

We all share a common ,vested interest,I want no one to regret their purchase.or have buyers remorse,we all know what that's like.
However I do want everyone to know all the facts,so they can make an informed,intelligent choice for their specific needs and wants.thats not so much too ask for.
If Tr2 has no issue and works flawlessly,I'll be one of the first to bite,and be happy I did.no regrets no remorse.money is only dead trees and scrap metal,oh, and now plastic,until you get something nice out of it!

 

[Puiu]

I Believe it ,I've read about it.it fixed some ,not all,and not everyone is so tech savvy.for bios updates .or choosing memory.I never read about bad cmos batteries.I think Steve would be using memory on the QVL,anyway.to ensure compatibility.I would hope top brands like g-skill and corsair would be on the QVL,as well.I had no need to view the list.
That also has nothing to do with being unable to fully populate the board,and run at specs specified.underclocking by default.thats the real issue here.try spinning it again!

Running at the "specs" is not the issue when you put the full 8 sticks of RAM. It's running XMP if the speeds are greater than 2667MHz (which by the way many can do with the right configs of RAM). You have the advertised officially supported speed for a reason. Reading the TR specs you'll find: "Max System Memory Speed: 2667MHz"

As a quick side-note, getting to 3200MHz was easier for many if they didn't use XMP and did manual OCing.

 

[Sarcasm]

You really have no clue what you are talking about research just a little bit and you will see this is closer relatgedto their server chips then the 1800 but trolls don't like to read just hypothesize.

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So... I was being sarcastic about Intel's stupid "glue" comments and saying that it's good for people who need it (IE: 16 cores) and I'm trolling?

"trolls don't like to read just hypothesize"

Describing yourself there bud.

Edit: Also to add I was implying the performance is really like 2 1800X's in one system. And to get it for almost the price of 2 1800X's, is awesome. Hope that clarifies for the reading comprehension challenged.

 

[hahahanoobs]

TR has been outselling Intel's new HEDT platform so that's not it. They are most likely trying to put the hurt on Intel where they can. If production got better and cheaper (which we know tends to happen with new architectures) then it's normal to cut prices when you have competition, something which people seem to have forgotten.

I'm still hearing people calling it "overpriced" even though even at 1000$ it was both better and cheaper than what Intel could offer.

I also like how many are calling it "broken" when they have never touched a Threadripper system let alone use one for work

Sadly the FAX 6300 is outselling TR. Not sure where you get your news from, but it's fake news.

PS, AMD expects losses next quarter.

 

[hahahanoobs]

If they are really outselling Skylake X, why would they drop the price? That makes no sense. Unless Intel's 8th gen has them worried about losing sales to the mainstream platform, then it makes more sense. Or possibly all the gamers who bought TR are disappointed, and flooding the market with used TR parts? TR is great for those who need the threads, but I suspect many buyers didn't need or use the threads, and are regretting jumping on TR for brand loyalty reasons.

Exactly. And with 35% margins, a price drop is not helping. TR is NO immediate threat to Intel's performance. And I'm still not seeing the purchase orders.

I honestly think AMD should get out of graphics entirely and focus on CPUs.

 

[hood6558]

Exactly. And with 35% margins, a price drop is not helping. TR is NO immediate threat to Intel's performance. And I'm still not seeing the purchase orders.

I honestly think AMD should get out of graphics entirely and focus on CPUs.

That may happen anyway if they stay on their current path. Strong CPU competition would be great, but only one GPU maker? Wouldn't that make Nvidia just like Intel the past 10 years? (great chips, high prices, no reason to improve much). Oh wait, they're already there now...

 

[Boilerhog146]

That may happen anyway if they stay on their current path. Strong CPU competition would be great, but only one GPU maker? Wouldn't that make Nvidia just like Intel the past 10 years? (great chips, high prices, no reason to improve much). Oh wait, they're already there now...

ya,it would make absolutely no difference to NVidia if AMD gave up on GPUs,Vega had zero influence on nvidias pricing.still to this day 1080 is still priced high.I got one on sale but ,I've been forever waiting to secure a second of the same card.

It also seems AMD cpu pricing is having little effect on intel cpu pricing.we are not seeing intel chopping/slashing like AMD.business as usual.

 

[Puiu]

Sadly the FAX 6300 is outselling TR. Not sure where you get your news from, but it's fake news.

PS, AMD expects losses next quarter.

You do realise that you can just look at things like Amazon's best seller list right? There have also been reports from retailers that TR is moving double the volume of Intel's x299.

I seriously have no idea why you are so quick to diss what others are saying when you yourself have nothing but an opinion and not the facts.

As for your "expected loss", no they aren't expecting a loss, they are expecting a revenue decline of ~15%. It's not the same as a decline in profits. Quarterly revenue fluctuations are not something new and not limited to just AMD.

 

[Boilerhog146]

A link to 1 of those retailers selling double the amount of x299 ,if it's not too much trouble. Small momnpop op.sells 1 x299 and 2 threadripper.fits your statement I guess.

losses are not something new to AMD either!
Lots of supposed facts being posted without links.

Tell all the investors Staring at you and your presentation at the board meeting that. 15 % decrease in revenue is not a loss.as you prepare your resume.:dry.

 

[hahahanoobs]

You do realise that you can just look at things like Amazon's best seller list right?

You do realize that's where I found the FX 6300 outselling TR, right?

 

[Puiu]

You do realize that's where I found the FX 6300 outselling TR, right?

isn't that normal? why are you surprised? even worse you think that it somehow invalidates what I said.

 

[hahahanoobs]

isn't that normal? why are you surprised? even worse you think that it somehow invalidates what I said.

It completely invalidates what you said.

 

[Boilerhog146]

isn't that normal? why are you surprised? even worse you think that it somehow invalidates what I said.

Imo it doesn't completely invalidate what you said.but with 100 processors listed ,Tr @ #22 ,66, & 84 it makes what you said completely irrelevant.as in ,so what? Core 2 duo listed there as well,so what.

 

[Puiu]

Imo it doesn't completely invalidate what you said.but with 100 processors listed ,Tr @ #22 ,66, & 84 it makes what you said completely irrelevant.as in ,so what? Core 2 duo listed there as well,so what.

It completely invalidates what you said.

So because mainstream CPUs sell better than HEDT CPUs, it somehow makes the TR bad? Or that its sales don't count when compared to Intel's own HEDT CPU?
Color me unimpressed by your "opinion". I'll stick with facts.

 

[Boilerhog146]

So because mainstream CPUs sell better than HEDT CPUs, it somehow makes the TR bad? Or that its sales don't count when compared to Intel's own HEDT CPU?
Color me unimpressed by your "opinion". I'll stick with facts.

7980XE currently outselling the 1900X, Fact,again I'll say, so what .intel hasn't had to slash prices like AMD ,there has to be a reason for that. Fact. Your color is unimpressive enough.
you stated a fact that reports from retailers selling Double.ie: Twice as many.TR as HEDT. Link please!
just 1 will do.

 

[Puiu]

7980XE currently outselling the 1900X, Fact,again I'll say, so what .intel hasn't had to slash prices like AMD ,there has to be a reason for that. Fact. Your color is unimpressive enough.
you stated a fact that reports from retailers selling Double.ie: Twice as many.TR as HEDT. Link please!
just 1 will do.

The Amazon list changes regularly, but if you take a closer look you'll notice 2 things: the only HEDT CPU that sells ok for Intel is the cheaper 360$ 7800x (currently 22nd) and the CPU you mentioned, the 7980XE, almost never makes it into top 30 (currently 50th) while the 1950x gets is always in at least top 25 (currently 24th) and this week it even got into top 10 again which it does from time to time.
I kinda wanted to ask you about this... in what list did you even see the 7980XE being so high? Are you confusing it with the 7820x (which is usually found between 30 and 35)? We are after all talking about an expensive 2000$ CPU.

As for the other link, sorry I can't find it anymore. It's been a while and it kinda got lost in between the many other google links that talk about TR outselling. But hey, I found a link talking about how TR was in Amazon's 6th spot at launch while Intel-X was in 34th. Want to see that one?

 

[Boilerhog146]

It wasn'

The Amazon list changes regularly, but if you take a closer look you'll notice 2 things: the only HEDT CPU that sells ok for Intel is the cheaper 360$ 7800x (currently 22nd) and the CPU you mentioned, the 7980XE, almost never makes it into top 30 (currently 50th) while the 1950x gets is always in at least top 25 (currently 24th) and this week it even got into top 10 again which it does from time to time.
I kinda wanted to ask you about this... in what list did you even see the 7980XE being so high? Are you confusing it with the 7820x (which is usually found between 30 and 35)? We are after all talking about an expensive 2000$ CPU.

As for the other link, sorry I can't find it anymore. It's been a while and it kinda got lost in between the many other google links that talk about TR outselling. But hey, I found a link talking about how TR was in Amazon's 6th spot at launch while Intel-X was in 34th. Want to see that one?

it wasn't that high.maybe 7/8 over the tr 1900x which wasn't that high either,todays amazon bestseller list.which like you said is changing all the time.
also its pretty irrelevant too me.that the 2000 + processor made the list at all is amazing.and still at it's price where all TR have been slashed.nothing wrong with that .lol.

just checked 7980XE @#59 and TR1900x @#83.
the HEDT has moved up since this morning.
YAWN!

 

[hahahanoobs]

So because mainstream CPUs sell better than HEDT CPUs, it somehow makes the TR bad? Or that its sales don't count when compared to Intel's own HEDT CPU?
Color me unimpressed by your "opinion". I'll stick with facts.

The whole FX line was crap. This was five years ago.
Fill in the blanks. If you can.

 

[Boilerhog146]

7980XE now @#40.someone is buying that 2000 dollar processor.only The TR 1950x .still in the 20's.I just ask Cortana to bring up the list and she searchs and voila.