We're revisiting the Radeon RX 9070 XT vs GeForce RTX 5070, now with updated drivers, pricing shifts, and a massive 57-game benchmark at 1440p and 4K to see which GPU really offers better value.
AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT vs. Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070
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darkzelda
Posts: 422 +274
Strange the pricing you are using for this analysis, I've seen the Asrock 9070 XT Steel Legend at a price of 699 USD consistently in Micro Center with available units, the same goes for New Egg.
It always comes down to to pricing - there are no bad cards, just bad prices for them…
Sad that AMD always seems to lose against Nvidia in performance but win on price… now they don’t even win on price…
Sad that AMD always seems to lose against Nvidia in performance but win on price… now they don’t even win on price…
I see the pricing and it usually disappears in less than 12 hours. I'd say that you really only see MSRP for a few hours a week. Also, not everyone is lucky enough to live near a MicroCenter.
I have a feeling that pricing on the 9070xt will drop down to normal levels sometime in August/September, a few weeks after "back to school"
-Microcenter is not available to everyone in the US and will typically not ship it's GPUs online, so it's not a good or fair point of comparison to what most people are shopping.
There is a reason the cards are always in stock when you go.
"Most people" arent shopping in the US in first place, so using some wierdo pricing present in that one specific market which heavily influenced by local tariffs cant be "good or fair point of comparison" either...
EU has the 5070 TI at ~800€, the 9070 XT at ~700€, the 9070 at ~650€ and the 5070 at ~570€
Cost in Canada is NOT 1100$. This is some major GASLIGHT. Guys, you fell really low...
Retail price for cheapest models is 950 CAD, or 680$.
I posted this already 3 frigging times...
Retail price for cheapest models is 950 CAD, or 680$.
I posted this already 3 frigging times...
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NotYourITguy
Posts: 87 +200
Pricing doesn't make sense because Euro pricing has VAT included already. That's typically 19% for Germany. So in effect, GPUs are quite a bit cheaper in Germany than in other countries listed.
Looking at the actual prices for RTX 5070 and 9070 XT, I can't find these cards for sale for anywhere near the prices listed in the article from any US retailer at the moment.
Looking at the actual prices for RTX 5070 and 9070 XT, I can't find these cards for sale for anywhere near the prices listed in the article from any US retailer at the moment.
Why do you always mention tariffs when there are currently no tariffs on graphics cards??? In fact, there hasn't been any tariffs on them.
Did it ever occur to you that YOU are the reason prices are high? Constant reporting and hammering on the readers, as well as just about every other tech outlet has potential and actual buyers snatching them up as fast as they can because of the fear of missing out created by false and misleading stories.
Where are the articles about Nvidia deliberately holding back supply and launching with just a handful of cards to stoke the purchasing rush even more? It was hardly mentioned after the initial launch. Where as tariffs and AMD MSRP's have been mentioned constantly from day one to today.
What about Nvidia's lack of MSRP cards? Is it because they are "better" and deserve a break? Even after their driver games with the latest launch?
Did it ever occur to you that YOU are the reason prices are high? Constant reporting and hammering on the readers, as well as just about every other tech outlet has potential and actual buyers snatching them up as fast as they can because of the fear of missing out created by false and misleading stories.
Where are the articles about Nvidia deliberately holding back supply and launching with just a handful of cards to stoke the purchasing rush even more? It was hardly mentioned after the initial launch. Where as tariffs and AMD MSRP's have been mentioned constantly from day one to today.
What about Nvidia's lack of MSRP cards? Is it because they are "better" and deserve a break? Even after their driver games with the latest launch?
I did a quick search of a Microcenter in DC area (Rockville,MD) and they have numerous 5070 12GB models starting at $600, 2 models of the 9070 XT 16GB for $799 (33% more than 5070), and 3 models of the 5070 Ti 16GB for around $824-$834 (3% more than 9070 XT).
https://www.microcenter.com/search/...4294802071+4294802100+4294802058&myStore=true
Newegg has in stock the 9070 XT starting at $799 and 5070 Ti starting at $849.
Which just supports the point of this article. AMD is not worth the buy at its current prices. What a loss for us gamers.
https://www.microcenter.com/search/...4294802071+4294802100+4294802058&myStore=true
Newegg has in stock the 9070 XT starting at $799 and 5070 Ti starting at $849.
Which just supports the point of this article. AMD is not worth the buy at its current prices. What a loss for us gamers.
WhiteLeaff
Posts: 848 +1,648
It's retailers' greed, AIBs mixed with demand outstripping supply. Is TSMC under such pressure? But It's fair to say that AMD has positive points for having more stable drivers than the leather man's company.
Some people speculate that the defect is in the hardware design and Nvidia is trying to mitigate it via software.
Some people speculate that the defect is in the hardware design and Nvidia is trying to mitigate it via software.
Are we still continuing with the "techspot loves nGREEDIA REEEE" schtick, even after techspot ripped nvidia a new one on the 8GB cards AND dissed the 5080 and 5070 for barely moving the needle?
also, did it ever occur to you that companies are raising prices because of tariffs, even if the tariffs have not gone into effect yet? They're merely delayed, not discarded.
A) Techspot is a US based website, so it's results and view are going to be US centric.
B) America still makes up 25% of GLOBAL consumer spending.
-Yeesh get that chip on your shoulder checked out by a medical professional. Not entirely certain why you've got such a hostile tone.
Sounds like you also agree that Microcenter isn't a good example of pricing across the largest single consumer economy in the anglosphere.
Americans love buying ****, and as a result until Tariff Man took the Whitehouse we tended to have the lowest prices on most consumer goods.
ChipBoundary
Posts: 133 +69
Price is kind of irrelevant. All that matters is performance. If you want more performance, you pay more and determine if that increased price fits into your budget individually. Buy what fits in your budget, not what you think a card is worth, it's that simple. You don't decide what a product sells for, the seller does.
Even if you somehow managed to band together the entire PC "community", even though there's no such community, and have them boycott literally nothing would change except nobody would have cards and the prices would go up even further. People keep screaming about prices, yet seem to forget how basic economics works. Prices for new PC parts are ALWAYS going to go up in price. Never down, never the same price, always up. Look up the profit margins of these companies...they're a LOT lower than you think. A LOT lower.
Even if you somehow managed to band together the entire PC "community", even though there's no such community, and have them boycott literally nothing would change except nobody would have cards and the prices would go up even further. People keep screaming about prices, yet seem to forget how basic economics works. Prices for new PC parts are ALWAYS going to go up in price. Never down, never the same price, always up. Look up the profit margins of these companies...they're a LOT lower than you think. A LOT lower.
I was about to post the same. It's so annoying that they use Newegg as basis which is always 100-150 CAD more expensive than canadacomputers.Cost in Canada is NOT 1100$. This is some major GASLIGHT. Guys, you fell really low...
Retail price for cheapest models is 950 CAD, or 680$.
I posted this already 3 frigging times...
hahahanoobs
Posts: 5,600 +3,377
You're right. Most people shop for dGPU's in Asian countries primarily China, then North America, then Europe.
Most of the people here probably don't live in Asian countries...
MC is in all the major markets. They're not like Best Buy but I prefer them to be a smaller privately owned company. Prices from MC can safely be used for comparisons. Some people like me won't support Bezos or China owned Newegg. I prefer to shop local.
That $699 Asrock Steel Legend was available all week. I know because I've been eyeing it. There are tons of 9070 XTs available now. They sell a few a day from what I can tell.
demonicmaniac
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Thank you for this overview. As a european it saddens me to see that amd has issues with the supply to meet the high demand to keep the prices down. Having followed the prices here amd hasn't actually gone up in any way, it's just nvidia has gone down because they didn't sell and initial scalping trailed off so abundance of stock and amd competition forced nvidia prices down where they now are the better value currently. If that causes nvidia sales to pick up again amd will be forced to slash prices and that will be good for everybody. The only thing I'd have liked to be mentioned more prominently is the nvidia driver situation as a caveat at the moment for people to make an informed choice based on which games are still affected working with 4xxx and older drivers but not 5xxx requiring newer drivers for hardware support. Will be interesting to see a followup in a month or two especially if/when intel launches a 5070/9070 contender potentially.
Summary - AMD have a good mid-range product. In this mid-range Nvidia haven't produced anything new or any good value products since the 30 series. However AMD are charging as much as they think they can possibly rinse from customers to get reasonable sales and just price-matching with Nvidia, so consumers lose again and AMD fail to become a dominant player in the graphics card market despite the gaping open-goal Nvidia have left for them.
A good example is 5080. Its price went up to 1500 bucks on most places the last time I monitored it. It is insanity.
I don't undestand why are you comparing two cards with totally and radically different prices in the market.
Fyi, RTX 5070 here in UE, I don't know what shops are you seeing, but I can said you that EU ir more than Germany, the RTX 5070 is selling under 550€ in countries like Spain (and probably, the same in Germany.
The only correct price is the 9070XT, that is true that doesn't go down from 750€ in Germany and OTHER countries of the UE, not so much. But the 5070 is totally incorrect positioned as "low" as almost 600€, not, its lowprice is LOWER than this.
The 5070 ti is NEARER to the 9070XT in prices. Only 100 bucks of difference. Not 200s like with the 5070-9070XT comparison.
Fyi, RTX 5070 here in UE, I don't know what shops are you seeing, but I can said you that EU ir more than Germany, the RTX 5070 is selling under 550€ in countries like Spain (and probably, the same in Germany.
The only correct price is the 9070XT, that is true that doesn't go down from 750€ in Germany and OTHER countries of the UE, not so much. But the 5070 is totally incorrect positioned as "low" as almost 600€, not, its lowprice is LOWER than this.
The 5070 ti is NEARER to the 9070XT in prices. Only 100 bucks of difference. Not 200s like with the 5070-9070XT comparison.
I can get a 9070XT for about 680USD in Canada, while the cheapest 5070 TI retail for 820USD.
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