AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT vs. Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti: 50 Game Benchmark

[Steve]

AMD's RX 9070 XT is off to a blazing start, already outselling Nvidia's GeForce 50 series. With the RTX 5070 Ti now in the spotlight, we're diving into which GPU offers the better bang for your buck.

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AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT vs. Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 Ti: 50 Game Benchmark

 

[Puiu]

They need to speed up FSR 4 adoption asap.

 

[opckieran]

Great RT improvement over the 7000 series being 3 tiers slower than its raster equivalent 4080 in RT (7900XTX = ~4060Ti) to now the RX 9 being only 1 tier slower, being on par in RT with the 5070.

 

[yRaz]

They need to speed up FSR 4 adoption asap.

They as in who? It's really upto the developers and AMD has little control over what they do. FSR also wasn't as forward thinking with FSR where all it takes is a simple DLL swap tp go from FSR3 to FSR4.

 

[EvilRebar]

It's interesting that techspot goes out of its way to turn off high ray tracing settings in games like Wukong to salvage performance in those titles and then praises the 9700XT for keeping within the ballpark of Nvidia's offering. Why not show us the full path traced results?

 

[Puiu]

They as in who? It's really upto the developers and AMD has little control over what they do. FSR also wasn't as forward thinking with FSR where all it takes is a simple DLL swap tp go from FSR3 to FSR4.

AMD can definitely help with it, but it does require investing more money into people and developers.

 

[darkzelda]

It would be amazing if these cards were available at MSRP, I would obviously buy the AMD GPU. $600 for that level of performance, it really is good value.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

It's interesting that techspot goes out of its way to turn off high ray tracing settings in games like Wukong to salvage performance in those titles and then praises the 9700XT for keeping within the ballpark of Nvidia's offering. Why not show us the full path traced results?

Why are people so invested in RT/PT? Just so they can say Nvidia is better, AMD is bad? Honestly, neither side is a winner, they both suck using RT/PT.

I personally am not interested in any of it if it means a 30-50% hit to your performance just for some fancy lighting and shadows. Then needing to rely on upscaling to fix the performance hit that introduces a loss of quality (even if it is very minor and/or almost negligible) or an increase in latency is just stupid.

To each their own, I suppose, but it just doesn't make sense to me which is why I personally have no interest it in.

 

[yRaz]

Why are people so invested in RT/PT? Just so they can say Nvidia is better, AMD is bad? Honestly, neither side is a winner, they both suck using RT/PT.

I personally am not interested in any of it if it means a 30-50% hit to your performance just for some fancy lighting and shadows. Then needing to rely on upscaling to fix the performance hit that introduces a loss of quality (even if it is very minor and/or almost negligible) or an increase in latency is just stupid.

To each their own, I suppose, but it just doesn't make sense to me which is why I personally have no interest it in.

I see it as a case of "new-fever". Everyone wants it just because it's new, doesn't matter that it sucks. frankly, I don't see many of these new games to be all that fun, they're competing on graphics alone. We're back to the graphics wars which, frankly, I'm happy that that went away for awhile. Then nVidia had to bring then back with RTX. I don't want to pay $2000 to play a game when I get off work. The only new games I play are BGS3, Cp2077 and SM2. Aside from SM2, most of what I've been playing are 10+ year old games in my Steam Library

 

[PaladinNH]

Where can I actually get a 9070 XT for $750? Outside of Newegg bundles (with overpriced monitors), the cheapest I currently see on Amazon is $940. I have a 5070 Ti on order for $900 but that's a lot for a mid-range GPU. But I'm holding onto it if the "lesser" competition is $40 more.

Have a 1 month old 7900 XT I'm about to return to Newegg for $650 but that almost seems like the best bang for the buck right now. 20GB, and is still hanging with the 9070 XT in raster. But DLSS 4/FSR 4 would be nice, and at least the Steel Legend 9070 XT is (supposed to be) $670.

 

[Che Cazzo]

How predictable and was bound to happen any day now...and now it happened!

The moment AMD has a good card that's beating the carp out of Nvidia's equivalent cards and is selling like hot cakes, what does Techspot (and their TH twin) do??
Quick let's have an article where we feature BS comparisons, with an Nvidia card whose weight class (and price!) is AWAY ABOVE AMD's card and declare it a winner. Even if that doesn't work out sometimes as they were wishing.....LOL!

And if both cards are doing quite well, then what?? Ah yes, a quick jump to the old BS DLSS bag of tricks and again claim Nvidia is the winner..... because the 10% of the gamers and most TS writers can't live without their beloved (and rarely used) DLSS (despite its huge impact on any game, unless it's the xx90 cards!, but hey, it is the 1% crowd card of choice.

PS: I don't see any TS & TH writers mentioning Nvidia drivers in the Con section of comparisons, despite the huge problems with Nvidia's drivers lately!

Strangely enough, they did that 100% of the time when writing about AMD cards....selective memory loss is a female dog.

 

[mcnabney]

How much did Nvidia pay for this advertisement?

 

[EvilRebar]

Why are people so invested in RT/PT? Just so they can say Nvidia is better, AMD is bad? Honestly, neither side is a winner, they both suck using RT/PT.

I personally am not interested in any of it if it means a 30-50% hit to your performance just for some fancy lighting and shadows. Then needing to rely on upscaling to fix the performance hit that introduces a loss of quality (even if it is very minor and/or almost negligible) or an increase in latency is just stupid.

To each their own, I suppose, but it just doesn't make sense to me which is why I personally have no interest it in.

No, path tracing works quite well with today's hardware. I run at 3440x1440 and Cyberpunk runs at 90+ FPS maxed out with DLSS-T on my 4080. Toss in frame gen and you're over 120FPS.
At the end of the day, every quality setting in games is taking a performance hit "for some fancy <festure>." You're always free to run on lowest settings and revel in your frame rate, but you probably wouldn't be a typical buyer of a 5070Ti or 9700XT.

Why would you care about upscaling if you can't see the loss in quality? Or latency if you can't feel it?

 

[redgarl]

Well, memory express sent an email and was able to fulfill my backorder. I am not sure this is the case for other clients, but I hope it is.

The good news is that I will receive an XFX Swift 9070XT and I paid close to the MSRP price or 620 USD.

 

[Beerfloat]

Quick let's have an article where we feature BS comparisons, with an Nvidia card whose weight class (and price!) is AWAY ABOVE AMD's card and declare it a winner. Even if that doesn't work out sometimes as they were wishing.....LOL!

How much did Nvidia pay for this advertisement?

Jezus. I'll pay extra to not have to share a cab with the rabid AMD fanbase.

Hey, guys. Techspot is pretty supportive of AMD GPUs. They always put these articles in the context of cost/frame, which is generally good for AMD.

Do you guys also get upset that not every car review recommends just getting a Toyota or Kia?

 

[sreams]

No, path tracing works quite well with today's hardware. I run at 3440x1440 and Cyberpunk runs at 90+ FPS maxed out with DLSS-T on my 4080. Toss in frame gen and you're over 120FPS.
At the end of the day, every quality setting in games is taking a performance hit "for some fancy <festure>." You're always free to run on lowest settings and revel in your frame rate, but you probably wouldn't be a typical buyer of a 5070Ti or 9700XT.

Why would you care about upscaling if you can't see the loss in quality? Or latency if you can't feel it?

I can both see it and feel it.

 

[redgarl]

It's interesting that techspot goes out of its way to turn off high ray tracing settings in games like Wukong to salvage performance in those titles and then praises the 9700XT for keeping within the ballpark of Nvidia's offering. Why not show us the full path traced results?

The reality is, without a 4090 or a 5090, nobody can run Wukong with RT at native resolution.

Wukong is barely running at 66FPS at 1080p.

 

[Beerfloat]

The reality is, without a 4090 or a 5090, nobody can run Wukong with RT at native resolution.

Wukong is barely running at 66FPS at 1080p.

Woah AMD is just terrible. Also, looks like any 4070+ will be just fine with DLSS Quality. Banging.

 

[BogdanR]

I paid CAD 959.00 (U$650.00 approx when I bought it) for an Asus Prime 9070XT OC Edition. I decided it would be better to patiently stalk a brick and mortar store’s stock of cards (I have a Canada Computers outlet very close to my office, but Best Buy Canada also has AMD cards on and off) rather than paying astounding scalping prices online (Newegg or Amazon). By stalking I mean eyeing the stock online at opening time, immediately paying the deposit to reserve one, then going to pickup on my lunch break. Relatively easy. They had 6 in stock and they sold in less than an hour. They also had one cheaper Sapphire model at CAD 890 and two more expensive at 999 and 1059 respectively, around 25 9070XT cards total, all gone in a few hours.

The price I paid makes my cost per frame around $5.46 which slots in the third position on that graph, better than the 4070 Super. Pretty decent value I would say.

In all honesty though, one should also add the price for the 8pin PCIe pover cables needed. My Asus Prime uses 3 of them, charges $650 for the unit but includes exactly ZERO cables in the package, I had to dive deep into my storage to find two additional ones so I could run the card.

All in all I’m perfectly happy with this purchase, the next one will be in 6-7 years or so.

As I’ve said before, AMD’s key to success in this market segment is getting a fairly priced 9070 series card in the hands of every single individual interested in buying one.

 

[redgarl]

Woah AMD is just terrible. Also, looks like any 4070+ will be just fine with DLSS Quality. Banging.

Yeah, it is a single stupid game that is an Nvidia title carrying the CCP narrative, and that I never intent to play anyway.

 

[scavengerspc]

I have always wondered when a review like this is done, does the frame rate gap between GPUs in specific games stay as wide, or does Nvidia\AMD make optimizations in driver updates?

 

[redgarl]

I paid CAD 959.00 (U$650.00 approx when I bought it) for an Asus Prime 9070XT OC Edition. I decided it would be better to patiently stalk a brick and mortar store’s stock of cards (I have a Canada Computers outlet very close to my office, but Best Buy Canada also has AMD cards on and off) rather than paying astounding scalping prices online (Newegg or Amazon). By stalking I mean eyeing the stock online at opening time, immediately paying the deposit to reserve one, then going to pickup on my lunch break. Relatively easy. They had 6 in stock and they sold in less than an hour. They also had one cheaper Sapphire model at CAD 890 and two more expensive at 999 and 1059 respectively, around 25 9070XT cards total, all gone in a few hours.

The price I paid makes my cost per frame around $5.46 which slots in the third position on that graph, better than the 4070 Super. Pretty decent value I would say.

In all honesty though, one should also add the price for the 8pin PCIe pover cables needed. Asus uses 3 of them, charges $650 for the card and includes exactly ZERO cables, I had to dive deep into my storage to find two additional cables.

All in all I’m perfectly happy with this purchase, the next one will be in 6-7 years or so.

As I’ve said before AMD’s key to success here is getting a fairly priced 9070 series card in the hands of every single individual interested in buying one.

Memoryexpress had 130 of those Swift 9070XT card alone for their online store, which is significative, but they were expecting around 500 of them. However, they contact their client back because they had good news and were having a bunch more. I can only speculate, but we are talking around 200 to 250.

As for the prices, as long as AMD is significantly cheaper than Nvidia, I will not be able to recommend Nvidia this time around even with better RT performances. The reason is simple, a 70 class card should not even matter when RT performances are in question when games like Wukong, Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2, which are Nvidia sponsored titles, can`t even run at playable FPS without upscaling on a 4090.

But I agree, AMD needs to work to get each AIBs to release a single model at MSRP.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

No, path tracing works quite well with today's hardware. I run at 3440x1440 and Cyberpunk runs at 90+ FPS maxed out with DLSS-T on my 4080. Toss in frame gen and you're over 120FPS.
At the end of the day, every quality setting in games is taking a performance hit "for some fancy <festure>." You're always free to run on lowest settings and revel in your frame rate, but you probably wouldn't be a typical buyer of a 5070Ti or 9700XT.

Why would you care about upscaling if you can't see the loss in quality? Or latency if you can't feel it?

I have no need to spend nearly a grand on either a 5070Ti nor around $800 for a 9070XT with current pricing. I do just fine with my 3080Ti.

It's still just a personal preference in the end. If you think RT/PT is what makes a game, then all the glitz and glamour from Nvidia or even AMD on the top end cards to run these shiny graphics are what makes gaming, gaming for you. Go for it, enjoy what they can do for you.

I don't find a game plays any better with slightly improved lighting or shadows over what they can provide without them. Honestly, I've played a couple of games with RT on and they played the exact same way without it on (aside from the loss of framerate). There was zero change nor improvement in the gameplay itself with RT on or off. Personally, if RT/PT actually improved the gameplay itself then I'd be all for it, even if it meant a hit to performance. But that massive hit to performance for some extra flashy graphics, just not for me.

 

[Squid Surprise]

I am no AMD apologist by any means but... you decided not to compare the 5070 (despite admitting that's the card closest in MSRP) simply because you don't recommend purchasing it?!??!

Head scratcher there... well, shockingly, the Nvidia card ranked higher (and priced higher) also performs higher... stop the presses!

I also love the "AMD has outsold Nvidia" lines... Nvidia only has a very few for sale - and they're all sold... clearly this isn't a case of AMD being superior to Nvidia, but simply AMD having more stock...

 

[Beerfloat]

Yeah, it is a single stupid game that is an Nvidia title carrying the CCP narrative, and that I never intent to play anyway.

The 'overwhelmingly positive' score of 96% on Steam as well as a Metacritic rating of 84 seem to suggest it is a well received title. I wouldn't really know, I've never played it.