AMD Ryzen 5 1600X & 1500X Review

[christiangeli]

When a video card bottleneck cpu made near 0 difference ! , so in real world gaming performance of the cpu should never been tested using setting or setup that get higher than 60 fps

The real world is that between 60 and 200 fps difference there no difference in the gaming. the game run flawless

 

[ZackL04]

Have any data to share?
I have a review of a 3770k vs a 6700k with both CPU's at 4.2GHz and there is no difference in FPS at 1080 or 1440p over a lot of 15 games or so. Techspots reviews of CPU's show the same thing when the clockspeeds are the same.


http://multimonitorcomputer.com/solved/ddr3-vs-ddr4-gaming.php
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/8



Techspot did a review on RAM, some games did show a nice difference, most of them it was very small, even at high resolutions. Not trying to be argumentative, but super fast DDR4 RAM will be faster then super fast DDR3, but the difference most the time is pennies.

Watch the digital foundry videos of 7700k and their revisit of 2500k. When paired with titan x pascal and 3000mhz memory there are BIG framerate increases. Your article linked is from almost 2 years ago with low end cards and uses ddr4 2133, I said 3000+.

 

[amstech]

Watch the digital foundry videos of 7700k and their revisit of 2500k. When paired with titan x pascal and 3000mhz memory there are BIG framerate increases. Your article linked is from almost 2 years ago with low end cards and uses ddr4 2133, I said 3000+.

Hey, as far as your RAM stance you might be right.
I have seen some gaming results of high speed DDR4 and is faster, the issue is whether a few FPS is enough to impress.
3-8FPS difference? Nice but nothing to write home about. 10+ FPS difference? Now that's worth upgrading for, I just haven't seen much of the ladder yet.

Either way, I just want to see concrete data, that's all.
Not just to iron out this conversation, but I am genuinely curious.

(As far as a 2500K vs a 7700K, that i5 is not in the same league as that i7 so that comparison is void for my part)

 

[ZackL04]

Hey, as far as your RAM stance you might be right.
I have seen some gaming results of high speed DDR4 and is faster, the issue is whether a few FPS is enough to impress.
3-8FPS difference? Nice but nothing to write home about. 10+ FPS difference? Now that's worth upgrading for, I just haven't seen much of the ladder yet.

Either way, I just want to see concrete data, that's all.
Not just to iron out this conversation, but I am genuinely curious.

(As far as a 2500K vs a 7700K, that i5 is not in the same league as that i7 so that comparison is void for my part)

I mean, digital foundrys seperate videos for both.

7700k vs older i7's:

If I remember correctly, the end of the 2500k video talks ram speed

 

[amstech]

7700k vs older i7's:

Somewhat interesting video.
Unfortunately that video shows them all at stock clocks which does nothing to support your claim.
A stock 3770k only hits around 3900 with TB, a 7700K hits over 4500.
The 6700K at the same clockspeed as the 7700K performs the same in games, and a 3700k at 4500 would be just as quick as the 7700k [for gaming].

As far as the RAM comparison, CPU clocks speeds would have to be the same there as well but I have seen DDR4 show a little difference. Nothing to upgrade for, but its there.

 

[ZackL04]

Somewhat interesting video.
Unfortunately that video shows them all at stock clocks which does nothing to support your claim.
A stock 3770k only hits around 3900 with TB, a 7700K hits over 4500.
The 6700K at the same clockspeed as the 7700K performs the same in games, and a 3700k at 4500 would be just as quick as the 7700k [for gaming].

As far as the RAM comparison, CPU clocks speeds would have to be the same there as well but I have seen DDR4 show a little difference. Nothing to upgrade for, but its there.

Did you watch the video????

They are all clocked at 4.5 later, the witcher 3 shows like 30fps improvement 7700k vs 3770k. If you ask for data, I would ask you please review it before dubbing it useless....

 

[amstech]

Did you watch the video????.

The video is nice.
Where they are all clocked at 4.5 its a split, some show a sizable difference, others are very close. There is a 10-15 FPS difference sometimes [between the 3770k and 7700k] but Kaby is running on higher speed [by 600MHz] DDR4. Thanks for sharing the vid.

 

[ZackL04]

The video is nice.
Where they are all clocked at 4.5 its a split, some show a sizable difference, others are very close. There is a 10-15 FPS difference sometimes [between the 3770k and 7700k] but Kaby is running on higher speed [by 600MHz] DDR4. Thanks for sharing the vid.

Where they are close is a game that is gpu limited, like the division or ashes. The witcher sees like 15 fps improvement and crisis 3 sees like 25. But when you turn these improvements into percentages they are smaller.

Basically, titan x or 1080 ti type power will be mainsteam in a couple years in the the form of a GTX 3070. And by then the 7700k may be able to extend its lead paired with a theoretical 3080ti.

Im not arguing that the older i7's are junk, just that there is some improvement. To be honest I still run a 2600k and 3770k and just a 1060 6gb. Im tasking myself with trying to hit 5ghz with one of them.

 

[amstech]

Im not arguing that the older i7's are junk, just that there is some improvement. To be honest I still run a 2600k and 3770k and just a 1060 6gb. Im tasking myself with trying to hit 5ghz with one of them.

I love to see new information, thank you for sharing some great data.
We have similar viewpoints...the newer stuff does show a noticeable improvement, ill admit a little more than I thought.
...and any i7 with good clock speed is going to do just fine.

 

[Avenger001]

The 1600 and 1600x I see some wins here:

1) You paid $339(cad) for a 6-core 12 thread cpu instead of $339 7600k for only 4 cores and 500$ 7700k 4\8
2) You can now game with decent FPS - stream and almost do watever else you feel at the same time
3) A lot more value for your money if you do more than just GAME
4) If you game at 1440p and up the scores are almost all the same because GPU bound so who cares

 

[Neiva]

At first I was heartbroken to see an R5 1500X beat i5 7500 (bought last month). But after seeing other reviews, I was happy that I bought an i5 7500 with an aim to upgrade to Coffee Lake 6/8 core after few years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbK0n5FjvhI
^ i5 7500 here is faster than 1500X and 1600X in DeusEX (DX12) and incredibly faster in ROTR (DX12). Also in Doom and Wildlands i5 7500 is better.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-6c12t-cpu-review/8/
^ Here in Witcher 3 (the best game ever) even an i5 7400 frames way ahead of R5 1600X OC.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1500X/12.html
^ i5 7500 beats R5 1500X in Fallout 4 and other games.

I wish techspot to add above games in their R5 extensive gaming review while comparing to an i5 7500.

yeah man, their i5-7500 benchmarks seem to be off compared to others.

 

[Pijoto]

"The AM4 motherboard that you buy today should still be able to support new AMD processors all the way to 2020, so the option to move on from an affordable quad-core in a few years to something much more capable..."

Don't need the power of a Ryzen 5 at the moment, so looking forward to how well the cheaper Ryzen 3 turns out, but great knowing I can pop in newer and more powerful Ryzen chip sometime in the future should need arises.

 

[manigma]

yeah man, their i5-7500 benchmarks seem to be off compared to others.

Yeah strange... as one can see here
Hitman at 1080p is 90fps on i5 7500 vs 78fps on R5 1500x
At techspot its 78 on i5 vs 86 on R5

And here
Deus EX (DX11) at 1080p
94fps i5 7500 vs 99fps R5 1500x
At techspot its 98 vs 101 (which matches above) but techspot does not include DX12 benchmark which gives:
96fps i5 7500 vs 93fps R5 1500x

I guess techspot only included games that favour Ryzen. Maybe in future we would see a better review that covers more games.

 

[Josh Prime]

Is the ryzen 1500x stock cooler decent enough? Not going to overclock it though

 

[Truca Andrei]

Hi guys, First of all I have to apologize for not speaking English correctly, but I hope you understand
For almost a week, I have the new AMD Ryzen 5 1600X and Aorus AX370-Gaming K7.
I installed the latest BIOS update on the motherboard (F4d-Beta), and and it looks like everything goes well, including 3200Mhz on memory with XMP enabled. I have G-Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB 3200 Mhz CL14.
But I have two big problems, namely:
1) The RGB on the motherboard does not go all the time, and just goes only red.
2) I noticed that processor voltage is jumping very much from 1,248v at 1,500v (CPU-Z).
I have not changed anything in bios except memory profile XMP, but no voltage, everything is on auto.
I've been trying to reduce the manual voltage on cpu, but I noticed by doing so, it goes down the frequency, so I keep the voltage on auto.
I am not a ace of overclocking, especially of the new ryzen platform, so please help me to understand how things work.

Thank you In advance.

 

[Truca Andrei]

Josh Prime
If you do not overclock to the CPU, that cooler is enough.

 

[cliffordcooley]

I am not a ace of overclocking, especially of the new ryzen platform, so please help me to understand how things work.

Thank you In advance.

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