AMD Ryzen 7 5800X vs. Intel Core i7-11700K: 32 Game CPU Battle

Adi6293

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You telling me Ryzen never had USB connectivity issues? I can go buy a 4400MHz kit and rely on a 5800x to use it?

It is cheaper. The motherboards don't require fans to cool them. You can put in 4400MHz kits. This isn't like a few years ago when AMD wasn't even considerable as the cheaper alternative. AMD took the slightest little lead and decided to throw a $450 8 core at you and you ate it up.

You really starting to piss me off man, NOT ALL INTEL CPU'S WILL HANDLE 4400Mhz ram and on top of it 11gen is best run with 3600Mhz so its 1:1 ratio just like AMD but Ryzen 5000 can go to 3800Mhz - 4000Mhz if you really lucky after that the infinity fabric goes into 1 : 2 ratio so its not worth it . As to the USB, I personally didn't have issues on my X470 motherboard but my wife did on her X570 one with a Corsair Commander Pro, that is now fixed, the motherboard don't actually need that fan unless you hook up a PCI-E 4.0 nvme drive to the chipset ( This is why B550 boards don't have the fan at all ) and AMD is already bringing out a new revision of the chipset that will work without it all together, as to the 8 Core CPU for $450 Intel is selling one for $600 and its not even in the lead, you can get a 12 CORE PROCESSOR FOR CHEAPER , TAKE OFF THOSE BLUE GLASSES, LOOK INTO A MIRROR AND ASK YOURSELF IF MAYBE ITS TIME TO GROW UP AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT?
 

Skjorn

Posts: 603   +463
Yeah, it had USB issues for a short while until updates were released. Most mobos have no USB bug now. You are telling me Intel never had issues? You are going to nitpick here where all issues are pretty much known for both platforms?

Here, nitpick this:

As for the 8 core comment... you have the 11900k released by Intel, enough said.
Yeah and I wouldn't buy it. I'd take the 11700k all day over a 5800x for the price. 10700k even more so.
 

Skjorn

Posts: 603   +463
You really starting to piss me off man, NOT ALL INTEL CPU'S WILL HANDLE 4400Mhz ram and on top of it 11gen is best run with 3600Mhz so its 1:1 ratio just like AMD but Ryzen 5000 can go to 3800Mhz - 4000Mhz if you really lucky after that the infinity fabric goes into 1 : 2 ratio so its not worth it . As to the USB, I personally didn't have issues on my X470 motherboard but my wife did on her X570 one with a Corsair Commander Pro, that is now fixed, the motherboard don't actually need that fan unless you hook up a PCI-E 4.0 nvme drive to the chipset ( This is why B550 boards don't have the fan at all ) and AMD is already bringing out a new revision of the chipset that will work without it all together, as to the 8 Core CPU for $450 Intel is selling one for $600 and its not even in the lead, you can get a 12 CORE PROCESSOR FOR CHEAPER , TAKE OFF THOSE BLUE GLASSES, LOOK INTO A MIRROR AND ASK YOURSELF IF MAYBE ITS TIME TO GROW UP AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT?
And zero amd cpus are accepting 4400MHz. If you need to update the BIOS to fix a problem then it's a huge problem and in most systems it won't get updated. Haha you mad bro? I can see you sweating red.
 

Puiu

Posts: 4,684   +3,549
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And zero amd cpus are accepting 4400MHz. If you need to update the BIOS to fix a problem then it's a huge problem and in most systems it won't get updated. Haha you mad bro? I can see you sweating red.
Neah, he's just correct. You need to find better arguments. If "bios update = bad" is the best one you have then you yourself have an issue. That's exactly what Intel needs every time they have an issue too and as far as I can tell they've had many more lately.

FYI, I like how fast people debunked the 4400MHz fake info you were spreading :)
Here's something more technical (he even tries to OC the 4400MHz kit). The funny thing is that he didn't manage to get the same kit to work on Intel at the rated speeds.
 
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amghwk

Posts: 1,055   +969
What I have learnt from all the discussions is, you just can't argue with the sheer ignorance and stupidity of Intel fanboys. (You can say the same to Nvidia fanboys). Seeing them arguing is, yep, childish and they look like ...dunces... arguing against something already glaringly spread in front of their eyes, everytime they feel offended that their favourite tech gets a beating.

And.... how low do you want to go, by nitpicking every minute speck of what you dislike?

(And as I have mentioned before, I'm no fanboy of any one company. I'm still using a Intel 8700K.)

Some people will keep arguing something that is clearly proven otherwise because of unable to accept failure of their favourite things. This also reflects that they can't live with their own shortcomings too. And they will go any length to prove their false point.

A wise person would just accept what is obvious and move on. Not keep tugging to a dried branch over a cliff. It will break or get uprooted sooner or later.

For me, for any given round, if Intel or AMD gives a good product and at the best value, I would just get that, when I actually need to upgrade. Doesn't matter if it's Intel or AMD. I am a customer and would like to get the best value for my money. I'm happy with anything that is worth it's value.
 
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Pastuch

Posts: 72   +75
You telling me Ryzen never had USB connectivity issues? I can go buy a 4400MHz kit and rely on a 5800x to use it?

It is cheaper. The motherboards don't require fans to cool them. You can put in 4400MHz kits. This isn't like a few years ago when AMD wasn't even considerable as the cheaper alternative. AMD took the slightest little lead and decided to throw a $450 8 core at you and you ate it up.

You're being deliberately obtuse. You can buy a 4400mhz kit and Ryzen will run it fine. I have a 4133 kit in my two year old x570 right now. It's Samsung bdie memory and runs Warzone faster at ultra low latency. So I run it at 3600 c14. This is also true on Intel boards. For some reason Warzone loves c14 and the difference is close to 25% over c19 4133 on my system. Most of my friends are no-life warzone players just like me with Intel and have reported similar FPS gains by reducing latency
 
Why are you not testing frametimes and latency with each CPU using same GPU, mobo, ram etc.? Raw FPS is 50% of the story.
 
Running highly overclockable Intel chips at stock speeds against AMD chips that are bad at it and doing gaming benchmarks is kinda ironic don't you think so Steve?
 

Irata

Posts: 1,529   +2,509
Running highly overclockable Intel chips at stock speeds against AMD chips that are bad at it and doing gaming benchmarks is kinda ironic don't you think so Steve?
Welcome to Techspot.

What you suggests is perfectly fine if the additional cost for high end cooling, mainboard and PSU are factored in.

Otherwise you could also argue that Techspot should test with cooling and boards that support only the stock TDP values and boost.

Kindly note that TS already runs the chips power unlocked. TPU tested the 11700K overclocked, as well. +22W system consumption in MT, + 52W for the stress test and +49 W at idle (!) vs power unlocked gave an astounding +2.9% at 1080p gaming (placing the 11700KF 0.4% ahead of the stock 5800X, +3% at 1440p (placing it 2.5% ahead of the 5700X.

If that‘s worth a 304W vs 175W MT power consumption with the associated component costs is up to the individual user. In any case it means more cost and effort for a slightly better 1440p and 4k gaming result (assuming you are CPU bound rather than GPU bound) - you can use a much cheaper board and cooling solution for the 5800X vs. the 11700KF if you go for the OC route with the latter.

Power unlocked testing seems like a much more reasonable approach.