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Don't report disinformation. It was not an "opsec" chat, nor even classified. It certainly pales in comparison with the use of an unsecure communication system during the Obama Administration that allowed China to dismantle our entire CIA network in the country and identify and execute 30 some US operatives working in that country.

Odd that this debacle -- which even today, 14 years later, US intelligence still hasn't recovered from in the region -- received about 1/1000 the media coverage of the Trump-era incident.

It isn't 'disinformation" because Hegseth was bragging about "opsec" multiple times in the chat. Yes, there are much more secure methods for communications, but Hegseth was not using those resources. The attack info was classified in the sense that we, the general public, or the Atlantic, should not be privy to. Perhaps you need to stop spreading misinformation...
 
It isn't 'disinformation" because Hegseth was bragging about "opsec" multiple times in the chat. Yes, there are much more secure methods for communications, but Hegseth was not using those resources. The attack info was classified in the sense that we, the general public, or the Atlantic, should not be privy to. Perhaps you need to stop spreading misinformation...
Classified has a specific meaning - you don’t get to change the definition then accuse someone of spreading misinformation…
 
It isn't 'disinformation" because Hegseth was bragging about "opsec" multiple times in the chat.
Was that a joke? Surely you didn't mean to type anything so foolish: using the word "opsec" doesn't automatically make information classified, no more than your use of the word above turned your post into a top-secret missive.

Again: stop the disinformation. Trump had literally already informed the entire world that a US attack on Yemeni bases was imminent. I've heard the absurd claim that Hegseth violated security by "releasing the specific weapon systems used: drones, Tomahawks, and F-18 launched missiles", ignoring the fact this information is obvious on its face. What else would we use?
 
Classified has a specific meaning - you don’t get to change the definition then accuse someone of spreading misinformation…
I said classified in a sense. "Opsec" being short for operational security. I know what classified means and I'm not changing it any meanings of words, but I guess that is how you make excuses for breaches in national security...
 
Was that a joke? Surely you didn't mean to type anything so foolish: using the word "opsec" doesn't automatically make information classified, no more than your use of the word above turned your post into a top-secret missive.

Again: stop the disinformation. Trump had literally already informed the entire world that a US attack on Yemeni bases was imminent. I've heard the absurd claim that Hegseth violated security by "releasing the specific weapon systems used: drones, Tomahawks, and F-18 launched missiles", ignoring the fact this information is obvious on its face. What else would we use?
I said it is classified in a sense in that the general public isn't supposed to know the specifics of a military operation, what systems will be used, what the targets are, what times the attacks will be made. Do you have reading comprehension issues? Are you saying it is ok for the enemy to be made aware in advance that it may cost possibly US service members their lives? Sure, Trump made it known that an attack was imminent, but he didn't say what systems, when, at what times, etc. do you really not understand the difference? Absurd claim... what is absurd is supporting a Fox news airhead to be the Secretary of Defense.
 
I said classified in a sense. "Opsec" being short for operational security. I know what classified means and I'm not changing it any meanings of words, but I guess that is how you make excuses for breaches in national security...
It wasn’t classified - no information was released that put anyone’s life in danger… do some research…
 
I said it is classified in a sense in that the general public isn't supposed to know the specifics...
I laughed aloud at this: you're outright admitting you tried to redefine a word to suit yourself. But hey, at least you're finally admitting the attempt to deceive.

Do you have reading comprehension issues? Are you saying it is ok for the enemy to be made aware in advance that it may cost possibly US service members their lives?
No, but you certainly have comprehension issues. Trump had literally gone on LIVE TV and told the Yemenis in advance that their bases were going to be imminently attacked.

And I'd love to hear some third-grade theory on how that "risked US service member lives", when we conducted standoff missile and drone attacks. Even the F-18s used AGM-84 and AGM-88 missiles from some 150+ miles away. I realize that Atlantic Magazine liberals are indeed traitorous villains who would eagerly share this information with our enemies ... but what on earth do you believe the Yemenis could do with it?
 
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It wasn’t classified - no information was released that put anyone’s life in danger… do some research…
The Trump administration doesn't scramble to contain or address a sensitive information leak if no wrong had been done...

'A former U.S. official told Reuters that operational details for military actions are typically classified and known to only a few people at the Pentagon and such top-secret information is usually kept on computers that use a separate network."


'Details of U.S. military operations are not supposed to be conducted over publicly available platforms such as Signal, and a number of security experts have said the chat group could have violated the Espionage Act. Ahead of the 2016 presidential election, Donald Trump focused heavily on Democratic rival Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server for official business as secretary of state."

 
I laughed aloud at this: you're outright admitting you tried to redefine a word to suit yourself. But hey, at least you're finally admitting the attempt to deceive.


No, but you certainly have comprehension issues. Trump had literally gone on LIVE TV and told the Yemenis in advance that their bases were going to be imminently attacked.

And I'd love to hear some third-grade level theory on how that information "risked US service member lives", when we conducted standoff missile and drone attacks. Even the F-18s used AGM-84 and AGM-88 missiles from some 150+ miles away. I realize that Atlantic Magazine liberals are indeed traitorous villains who would eagerly share this information with our enemies ... but what on earth do you believe the Yemenis could do with it?
Sounds more like you are trying to redefine classified...

'A former U.S. official told Reuters that operational details for military actions are typically classified and known to only a few people at the Pentagon and such top-secret information is usually kept on computers that use a separate network."

https://www.reuters.com/business/me...am-over-yemen-war-security-breach-2025-03-25/

'Details of U.S. military operations are not supposed to be conducted over publicly available platforms such as Signal, and a number of security experts have said the chat group could have violated the Espionage Act. Ahead of the 2016 presidential election, Donald Trump focused heavily on Democratic rival Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server for official business as secretary of state."

 
The Trump administration doesn't scramble to contain or address a sensitive information leak if no wrong had been done...
Nor did they "scramble" or "attempt to contain" anything here. All they did was respond to false allegations -- loaded language like "scramble" is a hallmark propaganda technique.

'A former U.S. official told Reuters that operational details for military actions are typically classified
Ah, the media favorite: the "anonymous" ex-official. What's "typical" is that operational details are classified IF their disclosure would risk the lives of service personnel or jeopardize the mission or national security. None of which applies here. The Yemenis had already been told an attack on their bases was imminent.

....and such top-secret information is usually kept on computers that use a separate network."
LOL, I doubt even you believe that every detail of strikes like this are kept on "separate top-secret networks". Did you forget that military missions are carried out by -- wait for it -- the US military, only about 10-15% of which even has a top secret clearance?

...a number of security experts have said the chat group could have violated the Espionage Act.
This was so outrageously absurd I literally laughed aloud. Note that none of these "experts" allowed their name to be associated with this tripe. The Espionage Act requires intent to aid US enemies or cause the US harm.

Sell this childish drivel elsewhere.
 
Sounds more like you are trying to redefine classified...
Oops! The Atlantic walked back claims the information was "classified", and instead termed it "sensitive". And of course, had it actually been classified, they couldn't have published the full transcript of that Signal chat without committing multiple felonies.

Next time think before you post.
 
Nor did they "scramble" or "attempt to contain" anything here. All they did was respond to false allegations -- loaded language like "scramble" is a hallmark propaganda technique.


Ah, the media favorite: the "anonymous" ex-official. What's "typical" is that operational details are classified IF their disclosure would risk the lives of service personnel or jeopardize the mission or national security. None of which applies here. The Yemenis had already been told an attack on their bases was imminent.


LOL, I doubt even you believe that every detail of strikes like this are kept on "separate top-secret networks". Did you forget that military missions are carried out by -- wait for it -- the US military, only about 10-15% of which even has a top secret clearance?


This was so outrageously absurd I literally laughed aloud. Note that none of these "experts" allowed their name to be associated with this tripe. The Espionage Act requires intent to aid US enemies or cause the US harm.

Sell this childish drivel elsewhere.
"Scramble" is not propaganda, Reuters is a centrist news source, unlike Fox news that peddles propaganda much of the time because they are not going to tell the truth if it makes their favored leaders look bad.

Downplaying what happened doesn't make it any better or less significant.

"LOL, I doubt even you believe that every detail of strikes like this are kept on "separate top-secret networks". Did you forget that military missions are carried out by -- wait for it -- the US military, only about 10-15% of which even has a top secret clearance?"

Why are you trying to state my beliefs as though you know them? People associated with military action may wish to remain anonymous, especially with an administration bent on revenge towards anyone who disagrees. Your comment about the military personnel carrying out the missions has no bearing here, this is about military information being exposed in civilian space. I'm surprised that you are unable to comprehend that or ignoring it because it makes your whole defense fall apart. Speaking of childish drivel, you got a lot of it...
 
"Scramble" is not propaganda,
It's a loaded word used for propaganda purposes: it implies something that didn't happen. The only "scrambling" the administration did was respond to the questions the media was peppering them with.

Reuters is a centrist news source,
Keep believing that if you helps you sleep. If these "anonymous" ex officials are so certain of their information, why did they refuse to go on record with it? There are more than five million ex officials who've had secret or top secret clearances and could easily confirm such a statement. As for your absurd claim that they're all so afraid of Trump that they won't speak out, you forget that many of these same officials and ex-officials criticize Trump on a daily basis.

Downplaying what happened doesn't make it any better or less significant.
There was nothing to downplay. But let's contrast this to an incident that was downplayed horrifically, both by the administration and their media allies: the actual deaths of 13 US service members in Afghanistan, because instead of evacuating from their secure military base at Bagram, President Autopen forced them to travel cross country to fly out of a civilian airfield in Kabul, surrounded by ten million screaming Taliban.

Why are you trying to state my beliefs as though you know them?
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt -- are you saying you actually believe something so absurd, that every detail of every military operation is kept on a "top secret computers on a separate network" -- inaccessible to many of the people who actually have to carry out the operations?
 
It's a loaded word used for propaganda purposes: it implies something that didn't happen. The only "scrambling" the administration did was respond to the questions the media was peppering them with.


Keep believing that if you helps you sleep. If these "anonymous" ex officials are so certain of their information, why did they refuse to go on record with it? There are more than five million ex officials who've had secret or top secret clearances and could easily confirm such a statement. As for your absurd claim that they're all so afraid of Trump that they won't speak out, you forget that many of these same officials and ex-officials criticize Trump on a daily basis.


There was nothing to downplay. But let's contrast this to an incident that was downplayed horrifically, both by the administration and their media allies: the actual deaths of 13 US service members in Afghanistan, because instead of evacuating from their secure military base at Bagram, President Autopen forced them to travel cross country to fly out of a civilian airfield in Kabul, surrounded by ten million screaming Taliban.


I was giving you the benefit of the doubt -- are you saying you actually believe something so absurd, that every detail of every military operation is kept on a "top secret computers on a separate network" -- inaccessible to many of the people who actually have to carry out the operations?
Experts disagree with your foolish beliefs.

"While the administration has confirmed the authenticity of the Signal chat, officials are denying that any classified information was shared. Still, they have not directly denied the allegations that specific operational details were sent in the chat.

Military.com asked Hegeseth's office whether he declassified the information he put onto the chat before sharing it but did not receive a response in time for publication.

Experts who spoke with Military.com on Tuesday said it's highly unlikely that operational details at the level Goldberg described would not be classified. And, they added, sharing the information outside of classified systems is incredibly irresponsible.

"It's an extraordinary departure from how we deal with classified information," Eric Carpenter, a law professor at the Florida International University College of Law and a former Army judge advocate, told Military.com in a phone interview Tuesday."

"Rep. Don Bacon, R-Neb., a retired Air Force brigadier general, similarly said the officials on the Signal chat "were jeopardizing the aviators who were dropping these bombs."

"There's the old phrase from World War II: Loose lips sink ships," Bacon told reporters Tuesday. "And so you're doing it in an unclassified way where Russia and China could know about it two hours before the attack? It's not right."




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The Times reported Sunday that the second chat had the same warplane launch times that the first chat included. Multiple former and current officials have said sharing those operational details before a strike would have certainly been classified and their release could have put pilots in danger.


Hegseth’s use of Signal and the sharing of such plans are under investigation by the Defense Department's acting inspector general. It came at the request of the leadership of the Senate Armed Services Committee — Republican Chairman Roger Wicker of Mississippi and ranking Democratic member Jack Reed of Rhode Island.


Reed urged the Pentagon watchdog late Sunday to probe the reported second Signal chat as well, saying that Hegseth “must immediately explain why he reportedly texted classified information that could endanger American servicemembers’ lives."


"I have grave concerns about Secretary Hegseth’s ability to maintain the trust and confidence of U.S. servicemembers and the Commander-in-Chief," he added."

 
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