Arcade legend Billy Mitchell threatens to sue Twin Galaxies and Guinness over record removal

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In brief: The technicalities of the claim come down to minute differences regarding how the game is rendered on screen in MAME versus on an original arcade cabinet. A few months later, Twin Galaxies, an organization that manages video game records, determined that Mitchell’s runs were indeed conducted on MAME. While the use of MAME isn’t prohibited, misrepresenting scores from MAME as originating on arcade hardware is.

Arcade gaming legend Billy Mitchell is threatening to take legal action against Guinness World Records and Twin Galaxies unless they retract defamatory statements made against him and “immediately restore his achievements and good name.”

In February 2018, Donkey Kong Forum moderator and scoreboard maintainer Jeremy “Xelnia” Young presented evidence suggesting some of Mitchell’s high scores in Donkey Kong were obtained using an open-source arcade emulator called MAME rather than on original arcade hardware.

As such, Twin Galaxies stripped Mitchell of his Donkey Kong scores as well as all other records of his on the site. A day later, Guinness World Records disqualified Mitchell’s Donkey Kong and Pac-Man scores.

Shortly after, Mitchell vowed to conduct a full investigation into the matter to help clear his name. The recent retraction letter from his lawyers includes a 168-page evidence package. Given the massive amount of evidence, it will no doubt take Twin Galaxies and Guinness World Records some time to comb through the findings – perhaps longer than the 14-day deadline Mitchell’s lawyers have given.

Mitchell’s lawyers claim Twin Galaxies did not provide Mitchell with a fair opportunity to prove his innocence, accepting specific evidence against him but rejecting evidence of equal stature. The firm also believes Twin Galaxies selected a biased third party investigator.

We’ll see how this one plays out in the coming weeks.

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Give'em hell, Billy!
In the words of Jay - if we do not spank the monkey, the monkey will spank us.
 
HAHAHAHA ..... caught red handed and now he wants "another chance".....you're certainly not going to put one over on the Guinness Book of Records ...... And the fact that some lawyer sets an unreasonable deadline just verifies his guilt.
 
Give'em hell, Billy!
In the words of Jay - if we do not spank the monkey, the monkey will spank us.
Innocent until PROVEN guilty. The evidence against Billy was on the subjective side and more than a bit weak.
 
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HAHAHAHA ..... caught red handed and now he wants "another chance".....you're certainly not going to put one over on the Guinness Book of Records ...... And the fact that some lawyer sets an unreasonable deadline just verifies his guilt.
so because he uses MAME it doesnt count ? why ? it emulates the hardware. its "almost" or the same thing to a certain extent. when he plays and his score gets higher...mame or not, it will be the same score.
 
so because he uses MAME it doesnt count ? why ? it emulates the hardware. its "almost" or the same thing to a certain extent. when he plays and his score gets higher...mame or not, it will be the same score.
I presume because it creates doubt. It may be possible to achieve higher scores from an emulator running on a faster PC. The PC or emulator may subtly change how the game runs. A record should be based on people competing on an even and fixed standard - achieve it on the original arcade equipment or it doesn't count. It'd be like saying that someone set a new world record for the 100M sprint but the track was all downhill. Does it matter? Maybe not. But the parameters have changed and it's no longer a fair comparison.
 
I presume because it creates doubt. It may be possible to achieve higher scores from an emulator running on a faster PC. The PC or emulator may subtly change how the game runs. A record should be based on people competing on an even and fixed standard - achieve it on the original arcade equipment or it doesn't count. It'd be like saying that someone set a new world record for the 100M sprint but the track was all downhill. Does it matter? Maybe not. But the parameters have changed and it's no longer a fair comparison.
for my own knowledge, when a world guiness is created, shouldn't they have proof ? Like a video or some hard evidence of the score ?
 
for my own knowledge, when a world guiness is created, shouldn't they have proof ? Like a video or some hard evidence of the score ?
I'm only guessing but perhaps it was just a zoomed in video of the screen rather than the hardware it was running on. The other TS article linked above says:
"The use of MAME isn’t forbidden with regard to Donkey Kong world record scores; the issue seems to be that Mitchell allegedly tried passing off runs conducted in MAME as having been done on original hardware (MAME runs go through a different approval process)."
 
I dunno, I am the worlds champion solitaire player; I have NEVER been beaten, yet Guiness has not listed me....

But I still drink their beer....
-hic-
 
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