Banned from Google+, Anonymous creates Anonplus

captaincranky

TechSpot Addict
Anonymous might have some means and methods I don't agree with, but the US Army/military/intelligence outfits do also. I guess the people "protesting" about Anonymous' actions don't have any sense of history, or the history of the Internet (which I do, having been a netizen for over 25 years now, pre-web and etc).

They do not seem to understand the actions of Anon in revealing how carelessly handled our personal data is; how it is made the problem of the consumer when a bank's or company's abyssmal, stupid and technically-lazy "security" is shown to be little better than a PR gimmick; when banks and corporations will sell my data to each other or anyone else with 25$ to spend, not checking my references (try it yourself).

Perhaps Anon is not ignorant of the network as a communications platform and refuses to buy into the media corporation's attempts to reduce the net to a mere broadcast-only, one-way push medium for advertisers. Perhaps they are well-read in the history of the printing press and the attempts to suborn, contain and eliminate a free press movement. Perhaps they actually understand the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and how they apply to online communication.

Perhaps Anon is tired of trying to "work through the System" when such efforts are pretty much a joke now because "The System" is thoroughly suborned, when you can buy a Congresscritter or lobbyist through "campain contributions" you don't have to report. Perhaps Anon understands the noble history of protesting the invading forces of oppression and censorship.

It isn't Anonymous who's hacking your little kiddie Facebook profile. It's Anonymous who is showing you that corporation's lip-service to "security" is so much hot air and that corporations, far from caring about security, are part of the problem of data security, wholesale inside job breaches, internal theft and leak and ridiculous "security measures."

Maybe the people protesting about Anonymous should do a little historical reading and comprehension, both about the history of the internet as a whole, and the thoughts of the men who made it (Tim Berners-Lee, Vint Cerf, John Perry Barlow and etc). Then perhaps I will listen to them, but not when someone's "opinion" is just that; an empty opinion without any basis to form it expect "I think this is what it is." That's not an opinion; that's an asertion with nothing to base it on; ie, it's meaningless noise.

Miso Susanowa
That's all well and good. But, at the end of the day, Anonymous usually winds hacking other peoples personal information, and expects us to believe it's for our own good.

I'd prefer it if both you, and anon, would ramp down the bluster, and leave my personal info alone
 
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"little kids who got beat up at school, no social skills and mentally troubled."
Sounds like you describe scientologists.
 

captaincranky

TechSpot Addict
"little kids who got beat up at school, no social skills and mentally troubled."
Sounds like you describe scientologists.
As epithets go, that sounds like it could be applied to anyone you don't like. The only trouble is, how do you determine your qualifications to apply it?

That said, perhaps we should all nicer to our schoolmates, then we wouldn't have Scientologists to contend with.
 

red1776

Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe
Captaincranky said:
That said, perhaps we should all nicer to our schoolmates, then we wouldn't have Scientologists to contend with.
Wow!...now that is profound.:grinthumb +1+1+1
 

superty12

TS Enthusiast
Finally, Anonymous screwed up. The FBI is probably crawling all over the site. August's headline: Anonymous Arrested, AnonPlus to Blame.
 
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DURRR.... I'm a guest so i can completely act like an ******* to people who make well constructed arguments. I'm totally not behaving like the people whose actions I argue as wrong. /s
 
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THIS IS ANONYMOUS...WE ARE LEGION...WE NEVER FORGIVE...WE NEVER FORGET... WE WILL FIND REAL JOBS AND EVENTUALLY MOVE OUT OF OUR PARENTS BASEMENT...AND MAYBE EVEN GET LAID... ;)

Anonymous is a group of delusional people who believes actions like hacking certain companies or harassing specific individuals will make a difference. At then end of the day they're probably just a bunch of college drop outs who are trying to make up for their own failures in life by putting on a guy fawkes mask at night trying to be a superhero. If they really want to make a difference for the good of all like they say then they should go out there and do it with your own 2 hands instead of hiding behind their computers. They speak of fighting for freedom of information when their existence is a contradiction itself. Anonymous exist due to having the ability of being able to withhold information such as their name,place, location, etc. I believe the voice that speaks for freedom should not be the voice that hides and cowers behind hidden ip addresses. If anonymous is truly who they say they are and what they're doing is true then they should be out there protesting against the laws and restrictions they resent so much, they should be sitting down at the meetings that decides our freedom. Nothing much can be accomplished from sitting in front of a computer besides an unhealthy life style and maybe headline for the 6 o'clock news.
 
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As of right now the site appears to be down. I was actually over there and had a look, signed up and everything. I agree with the Honeypot statement that's being made. It appears to me, to be a well intentioned agenda furthering operation by the a few Indy Journalist who run this site http://presstorm.com/, if anything else it's a commercial operation. I don't see Government involvement in it's inception, though there's probably more then a few government trolls over there now. I'm sorry I try not to offer comments without some sense and knowledge of what I'm speaking of.

Also if I can take a minute to make a point on ip address tracking as a method for governments and various law enforcement agencies, to catch cyber criminals, is and always will be, for the most part uneffective and flat out unreliable. In the sense that ALL networks can be penetrated. What about Open and public Wi-Fi? I have the know how to go to a Dunkin Donuts and download illegal content, Chances of me getting caught on my first attempt, and this is a guess, I'm going to say ZERO. Maybe the Dunkin Donuts manager gets a call from his ISP a couple days later. That being said, I support free and open internet access for all people on this planet.
So I went checked it out signed up even!!! Hold on the F.B.I. just knocked on my door, no sorry, just kidding!

As far as Anonymous. Well everybody, anybody, can be Anonymous. It's not against the law, at least not yet. One mask hides many faces underneath. Groups and Communities of us serve many purposes not just, hacking Greedy Corporations, and facist regimes. Some handle PR, some Journalism, some are no more then information pipelines. It's my opinion is if a group of us wishes to engage in some Social Networking, an exchanging of idea's, and talk about relevant subjects, such as Freedom and Liberty, then they have the right to do so. Those things are certainly not against the law. And for those Anons involved in political and corporate ops, they are aware of the risks involved if they are ever found. And they too have our support


We Are Anonymous, We Are Legion, We Do Not Forgive, We Do Not Forget, Expect Us
 

captaincranky

TechSpot Addict
At least they are not sending out special ops forces to third world countries to murder those who do not give them good prices on trade goods.
You know, when we do this, the people in said, "3rd world countries", take time out to battle us. So we're doing them a favor by uniting them against a common enemy! Frankly, I don't see the down side...;)

wow..all you small minded people who make snap judgements. You people don't know which way is up even when others next to you are standing upright.

"Next up, by popular demand, Marshal Law!"
Ok, we've determined that you can't spell, your post does nothing to advance the discussion, and you insulted all of us.

Yet you claim to be broad minded, acutely observant, and perhaps smarter and better than the rest of us.

I'm impressed, you're a regular f****** "renaissance troll".
 

red1776

Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe
I'm impressed, you're a real "renaissance troll".
:haha::haha:

..well it might just be the 'packing material'...but I pictured a haberdasher with tin snips modifying a suit of armor for Danny DeVito
 
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Seeing all the donation buttons on sites for anonymous wikileaks and all the spin off hacker news sites etc and the mastercard spoof videos make me think it's a big money scam, run by twerps in mommy's basement who never worked a day in their lives.

As for them believing in freedom of speech, open up a blog or video channel critical of them and watch what happens.

Anono-hypocrites

anono-fail

Again
 
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Are you joking? The USA is one of the primary terrorist states committing atrocities everyday (Israel being #1), violating human rights, geneva conventions, and international law. You are a fool for trading in your personal liberties for so-called security. How are we more secure today than we were before 9/11? We are far less secure, no bill of rights, habeus corpus is gone, the US government can throw you in prison and throw away the key if they 'suspect' you of terrorism... I suppose that includes anyone for human rights. This society is completely dumbed down, sports/celebrity/and mass media obsessed, its tragic.
 

Leeky

TS Evangelist
This society is completely dumbed down, sports/celebrity/and mass media obsessed, its tragic.
Hey, as long as we know what Brad Pitt is upto, and what he new hair style or clothing accessory is for the week, we're saved! :haha: :haha: :haha:

So glad I live in the UK away from the whole "Hollywood" superstar thing!
 
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Pirates Of The Caribbean contributed this to the public consciousness, it's worth paying attention to here.

William Turner: You didn't beat me. You ignored the rules of engagement! In a fair fight, I'd kill you!
Jack Sparrow: Well, that's not much incentive for me to fight fair then, is it?

All this talk of Anonymous creeping around like rats or what-have-you and how they shouldn't hide behind their anonymity, etc. What reason do they have *not* to hide what they do? What's the incentive to come out and put themselves at risk if they don't actually have to do so?

It's a different game than what you played in high school guys. You don't get to beat people up until they stop bothering you, it's your best against their best and your best just isn't relevant in their arena.