AMD's CPU binning spree continues with the Ryzen 5 7500X3D, a cut-down, cache-heavy offshoot of the 7800X3D lineage. An OEM chip that somehow landed at retail, it raises plenty of questions.
Best Value X3D: AMD Ryzen 5 7500X3D Review
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Melkor Unlimited
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This 7500x3D could be better motivation to upgrade from 5800x3D and go to AM5 than 7600x was. But ...
Very bad timing.
Who wanted some extra gaming performance, already bought 7800x3D/9800x3D when they came.
Who wanted cheap AM5, already bought 7600/7600x/7500F when ram were not so expensive.
With actual RAM prices the 5800x3D will pull its weight for some more years before come obsolete.
Very bad timing.
Who wanted some extra gaming performance, already bought 7800x3D/9800x3D when they came.
Who wanted cheap AM5, already bought 7600/7600x/7500F when ram were not so expensive.
With actual RAM prices the 5800x3D will pull its weight for some more years before come obsolete.
I have a feeling we're going to start seeing more budget-minded products. I don't care what people say about how the stock market is constantly reaching new highs. Repos are up, foreclosures are up and unemployment is up. The idea of designing product lines around the psychology of you playing mental gymnastics to spend more money than you want to is over. People have what they have to spend and if there isn't a compelling product at that price people, many people would rather just save their money.
What kind of fool would upgrade from a 8 core to a 6 core CPU that is only a single generation newer?
You’d seriously do a full platform swap from a 5800X3D with this chip just to get on AM5? Even if RAM pricing were normal, that still wouldn’t be a smart upgrade.
A 9800X3D? Sure. Even a 7800X3D could make sense. But this chip is wildly overpriced for what amounts to ~9% real world performance gain over what you have in gaming.
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Will stick with my 5700X3D until AM6 by that time hopefully the PC world has recovered and ram prices cooled down. Besides upgrading for 30% performance gain is not worth the price anymore. Will wait for at least 60% - 70% on CPU gain. GPU's nothing less than 100% performance increase is worth it.
Please fix a typo in the beginning of the article(2nd sentence of the 2nd paragraph):
"...it's an 8-core Zen 4 processor packing a massive 128 MB of L3 cache"
Only 96 MB yet :-( Even more correct spec is (32 + 64) MB L3...
Editor's note: Fixed, thanks!
"...it's an 8-core Zen 4 processor packing a massive 128 MB of L3 cache"
Only 96 MB yet :-( Even more correct spec is (32 + 64) MB L3...
Editor's note: Fixed, thanks!
Melkor Unlimited
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In theory Zen4 gives some IPC and some frequency gain over Zen3.
Together it could give around +33%.
In other words 6x Zen4 ≥ 8x Zen3.
I have bought 8600G as placeholder before 9800x3D was released.
Did some tests ...
And even this 6-core Zen4 with only 16MB L3 gave in most cases better performance than 5700x3D.
It depends on what GPU one could afford:
rtx 5080 .. +38% in 1080, +7% in 1440
rx 9070 ..... +3% in 1080, ±0% in 1440
Games mostly depends on GPU.
There are some CPU heavy games.
And there are games which need both in spades.
TL;DR - I wanted to get something worthy as it may be be last rig I would ever buy. So I switched platform. Unfortunately New World was put into life support. So I have to found something else to kill rest of my days.
But that’s not what you said. You said “This 7500X3D could be better motivation to upgrade from a 5800X3D and go to AM5 than the 7600X was.”
You didn’t specify that you already had AM5 and DDR5. That’s a big detail. As it stands, the 7500X3D is around $275 USD and basically unavailable as of this post.
If I were you, I would sell the 5800X3D setup and imho, it makes far more sense to jump straight to a 9800X3D instead of doing a partial, low end AM5 move. You also haven't told us what GPU you have, or intend to buy, because as history has shown, they are about to jump in price as well so time is of the essence.
Melkor Unlimited
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I had 2 rigs. 5700x3D and 5800x3D.
Did not sold them.
Did partial refurbishment (new cases, CPU cooling, fans, bigger NVMEs, HDDs, new GPU) and gave them to niece and nephew.
I was aiming to 9800x3D. Wanted to get a 800 series motherboard for it.
Big mistake.
800 series got higher prices and only subtle upgrade over 600. Could get B650E and 7800x3D around June 2024.
After that prices of 7800x3D start to rise up. 9800x3D at release was practically non existent and highly overpriced.
Another big mistake ... have not bought that water cooled rtx 4090 in September 2024
Was offered cheaper than rtx 5080 year later.
I have bought 8600G deliberately. Going to build small rig without GPU around it.
I refuse to buy anything from those Chinese discount shacks.
Few things more gross than shopping at “Ali-Baba-Express-Temu.”
Shame. Shame. Shame.
Few things more gross than shopping at “Ali-Baba-Express-Temu.”
Shame. Shame. Shame.
Interesting review The 7500X3D feels like a classic X3D trade-off—amazing for gaming, but pretty weak for productivity. The 96MB cache clearly does the heavy lifting, especially since the lower clock speeds hurt it in apps like Cinebench.
What surprised me is how close it gets to the 7800X3D in gaming—only around 7–11% behind on average, while still beating CPUs like the 7600X and even the 14600K in many titles.
That said, the value seems a bit questionable at current pricing
What surprised me is how close it gets to the 7800X3D in gaming—only around 7–11% behind on average, while still beating CPUs like the 7600X and even the 14600K in many titles.
That said, the value seems a bit questionable at current pricing
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