Billions in incentives? Huawei denies report that state aid has been a major driver for...

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A hot potato: A US media report paints an interesting picture about Huawei's success by corroborating public records that show the company rising above its competitors using around $75 billion in state aid. The company denies these claims, arguing that it owes its success to its aggressive investment strategy that cost them $15 billion in 2018 alone.

Huawei has been facing increased scrutiny and major roadblocks in its quest to do business in the US. The company has been trying its best to secure licenses to continue its dealings with American companies, going as far as suing the FTC and the FCC for allegedly imposing unlawful restrictions that are based on politics as opposed to real evidence.

A new report from the Wall Street Journal claims to reveal that Huawei's resounding worldwide success over the last few years can mostly be attributed to contributions from Chinese-state lenders. Specifically, the Journal has done the math on grants, tax breaks, and general financial assistance received by the Chinese tech giant and it all added up to almost $75 billion in state-provided financial support.

This could mean that Huawei's meteoric rise that has seen them closing in to Samsung's multi-year dominance in smartphones, for example, isn't entirely the result of innovation. The company lashed out at the Wall Street Journal immediately after the report was published, arguing that it achieved its success by investing anywhere between 10 to 15 percent of its annual revenue in research and development over the last 30 years.

Huawei noted the WSJ has published "untruths" about them "based on false information," explaining that any private company that operates in China and meets certain conditions is entitled to state aid even if it's based outside of China. And while the Journal says the government support allowed Huawei to save up billions of dollars, the company denies receiving special treatment, further adding that state lending was "immaterial."

In any case, it looks like Huawei's battle with the US over allegations that it's stolen trade secrets and that its equipment is a security nightmare is far from over. The company has denied ties with the Chinese government for years, and even accused the US of attacking its network and harassing employees.

Huawei thinks the Wall Street Journal's reporting about it can only be described as "disingenuous and irresponsible" and that it harmed its reputation. The company is also swinging the legal action stick as a sign that it's ready to go to court to protect its image.

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This is news? Everyone has known this the mid-90's that Beijing plays corporate favorites based on three factors: how successful a company's espionage efforts are, how tight its leadership is with the bureaucracy and how much foreign investment it can bring in. The term "red chip company" has been around for at least twenty years. Huawei has worked hand-in-glove with the PRC's intelligence division since its inception - this has been common knowledge forever. All of the biggest Chinese tech firms send their executives and top engineers to government training sessions on how to steal IP. The only thing that beggars disbelief is the fact that it took a damn-the-torpedoes outsider like Trump to finally call China what it is: a massive parasite empowered by the soulless dirtbags in the corporate boardrooms of America and Europe.
 
You know, Huawei is a lot like the current administration .... they keep floating claims that their product is fine despite the evidence. Then they claim there is no evidence or that it is false despite the obvious. To give them access to American markets is simply letting the fox guard the hen house and we've had enough of that already.
 
How you feel after reading the article:
Wow ... a company getting grants and funding from the communists government of the country in which they reside? Outrageous!

Good thing in the great democratic US of A, we don't put up with, nor accept, that sort of intrusion into capitalism!!

Because you didn't know in reality:
Top three corporate welfare recipients in America:
3) Intel $3.87 Billion
2) Alcoa $5.64 Billion
1) Boeing $13.18 Billion
https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/high-on-the-hog-the-top-8-corporate-welfare-recipients.html/
 
Typical of China. The Chinese don't innovate -it's all mostly IP theft, transfer, or both.

The China that files more patents than any other country?

"Worldwide filings for patents, trademarks and industrial designs reached record heights in 2016 amid soaring demand in China, which received more patent applications than the combined total for the United States of America, Japan, the Republic of Korea and the European Patent Office."

https://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/articles/2017/article_0013.html

And Huawei has been filing the most patents of any company in the world for many of the last few years (more than Intel for example)...

Of course they are just commie Chinese patents so obviously not as good as American ones, but still... ;-)
 
So Chinese. If the facts don't conform to the narrative, deny the facts. An argument based on the support given to OECD competitors by their various governments would be much more compelling. Yes, you invested in R&D, but where did the money come from? And, how much of it was espionage, rather than basic research?

Until the PRC becomes a legitimate democracy, those that are have good reason to be mistrustful of it and its agents, and have every right to thwart their ambitions premised on the defense of the basic values that inform the developed world.
 
Oh no sh!t..they deny it?
It should be clear to anyone with some clue about the matter that Huawei IS China.
 
The China that files more patents than any other country?

"Worldwide filings for patents, trademarks and industrial designs reached record heights in 2016 amid soaring demand in China, which received more patent applications than the combined total for the United States of America, Japan, the Republic of Korea and the European Patent Office."

https://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/articles/2017/article_0013.html

And Huawei has been filing the most patents of any company in the world for many of the last few years (more than Intel for example)...

Of course they are just commie Chinese patents so obviously not as good as American ones, but still... ;-)
Here's the problem with that:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science...-inside-chinas-research-black-market/10238730

China is known for faking research. Simply considering the number of patents they've filed is like saying patent trolls are R&D powerhouses.
 
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