Brazil's $12 billion iPad manufacturing deal in trouble

Jos

Posts: 3,073   +97
The reported $12 billion deal between Brazil and Foxconn to produce iPads in the South American country is in doubt, according to government officials. Apparently the two can't come to…

Read the whole story
 

SammyJames

Posts: 159   +2
Oh -- and duh -- I meant NORTH American labor. And I really meant UNITED STATES labor.

I'm getting REALLY sick and tired of hearing about all of these so-called "American" companies USING OTHER COUNTRIES FOR THEIR MANUFACTURING. MANUFACTURE HERE.

Questions...? DON'T ASK. JUST DO IT.
 

gwailo247

Posts: 2,006   +18
Actually Sammy, the problem is not Apple or Foxconn, the problem is the American consumer. People would not pay $1000 for an iPad.
 

mosu

Posts: 546   +187
Brazil, listen to me: Drop the iPad idea and collaboration with Apple, only one party wins here and it's not Brazil.
 

Greg S

Posts: 1,607   +442
Well, the problem with an $1000 ipad is that the $500 price tag is already to high for the lack of innovative features it has. If anyone can tell me more than two things that are a new technology on the ipad 2, I'll will be amazed.
 

tonylukac

Posts: 1,382   +72
People buy those overpriced other apple products. Let's say it. Manufacture all apple products in the us. They certainly have the cash.
 

SammyJames

Posts: 159   +2
mailpup said:
Ease up on the shouting, SammyJames.
You're right. I'm sorry. I should have been much calmer. Seriously.

I guess that maybe the problem IS the American consumer. But I guess also that if Americans were more engaged in producing our own technology, I believe that in the mid- to long-term, we might see a more stable price/performance ratio that would be attaianble. One possible scenario is that, if we hire more people at home to help manufacture products, then we could export the technology and get more money that way. Too, we could raise the price -- but each of us would have more cash in-hand with which to purchase said technology.

We've been on this slippery slope for the last forty years. Sure -- China has made it much cheaper for us to buy things. They have also made it more difficult for us to buy stuff, because so many of us aren't able to pay our medical bills -- let alone buy iPads and MacBook Pros.

I can be reasonable. I'm still upset, because I've been out of a job for over 12 years.
 
G

Guest

As a brazilian, living in São Paulo and knowing a thing or two about IT, I am sure we do NOT have enough manpower with the skills and knowledge necessary to assemble iPads, in a massive scale, from scratch. Assembling them from imported parts is feasible and I truly believe things will end up like that.

The explanation is that we have an education system that has been in shambles for *decades*, so all the cheap labour we have can barely do simple math, or read single-sentence instructions - we can train them to solder chips on boards, but anything more than that is simply unfeasible.
 
This for guest 32.;
Are you really from Brazil?
We do not need apple overpriced products.
We already have Our IN HOUSE COMPANY manufacturing GOOGLE TABLETS.
www.tecmundo.com.br/m/13487.htm
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positivo_Informática
 
G

Guest

@BrazilMan, I'm from São Paulo, generally I'm at USP. I have seen many professors and students with iPads, I have never seen anyone using a touchpad which wasn't Apple.
Do you work for Positivo? Can you tell us wiht more accuracy about the pros and cons of manufacturing electronics in Brazil?
 
C

caravel

Actually Sammy, the problem is not Apple or Foxconn, the problem is the American consumer. People would not pay $1000 for an iPad.
+1

North American workers effectively compete in a world market for their jobs - the same market as someone in China who gets a few $$$'s per day assembling flashy consumer electronics.

It's a vicious circle and a lot of it comes down to the huge gaps in pay brought on by rampantly excessive profiteering. At one end of the spectrum, you have people earning ridiculous amounts of money for doing nothing, at the other you have those earning hardly enough to live on working seven days a week. Those at the bottom end provide the market for cheap imports and their wages are set by the global market - i.e. to make end product competitive globally, labour costs have to be cut to the bone...