BSOD with no message, what the

[Stonerose92]

Okay, what are the memory types and speeds?

My RAM? here's the info from speccy (both RAM are the same)

Memory
Type DDR2
Size 4096 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 332.7 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 5 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 21 clocks

Physical Memory
Memory Usage 33 %
Total Physical 3.25 GB
Available Physical 2.14 GB
Total Virtual 8.00 TB
Available Virtual 3.86 GB

SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2

Slot #1
Type DDR2
Size 2048 MBytes
Manufacturer OCZ
Max Bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part Number OCZ2RPX8002G
SPD Ext. EPP
EPP #0
Frequency 400.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 15
Voltage 2.000 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 400.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 18
tRC 24
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 333.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 5
RAS# Precharge 5
tRAS 15
tRC 20
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 4.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 12
tRC 16
Voltage 1.800 V

Slot #2
Type DDR2
Size 2048 MBytes
Manufacturer OCZ
Max Bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part Number OCZ2RPX8002G
SPD Ext. EPP
EPP #0
Frequency 400.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 15
Voltage 2.000 V
JEDEC #3
Frequency 400.0 MHz
CAS# Latency 6.0
RAS# To CAS# 6
RAS# Precharge 6
tRAS 18
tRC 24
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #2
Frequency 333.3 MHz
CAS# Latency 5.0
RAS# To CAS# 5
RAS# Precharge 5
tRAS 15
tRC 20
Voltage 1.800 V
JEDEC #1
Frequency 266.7 MHz
CAS# Latency 4.0
RAS# To CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
tRAS 12
tRC 16
Voltage 1.800 V

 

[Tmagic650]

Raise the memory voltages just a notch or 2 above 1.80 volts

 

[Stonerose92]

Raise the memory voltages just a notch or 2 above 1.80 volts

how do i do that? i'm not sure i have the option in my bios

 

[Tmagic650]

"how do i do that?"

I bet you do have the option to change the memory voltage. Look in the bios and instead of the memory settings being set to automatic, change it to manual and look for memory vcc being 1.80 click on it and set it to 1.82 or 1.84... something like that. Of course, if you see that the memory votage is less than 1.80 volts in the bios, change it to 1.80 first

 

[Stonerose92]

"how do i do that?"

I bet you do have the option to change the memory voltage. Look in the bios and instead of the memory settings being set to automatic, change it to manual and look for memory vcc being 1.80 click on it and set it to 1.82 or 1.84... something like that. Of course, if you see that the memory votage is less than 1.80 volts in the bios, change it to 1.80 first

Nah i genuinely haven't mate, only thing I can change in memory options is the SDRAM settings, old BIOS, and I can't update it, the one intel provides on their website isn't compatible with mine (although it says it is.)

Little update though! Think i've figured out my BSOD, it's my UX1 Audio interface.. Lots of people have had many compatibility errors when using it with windows 7, so i've disconnected it for now, and haven't recieved a BSOD yet *fingers crossed*, though I don't know how i'm going to record my gutiar now, bad times :/

 

[Stonerose92]

Nope! It's not the UX1 audio interface, BSOD occured twice, without it being connected, same again... no message. I'll upload the dump file, see if you wizards notice any differences between this one and the previous.

 

[Tmagic650]

Can we get back to checking the memory voltages? Can we assume the voltage is 1.80 volts? The title of your thread is "BSOD with no message". This tells me that a setting is off just a little. You are not overclocking are you?

 

[Stonerose92]

No, i'm not overclocking, BIOS doesn't give me the option to do that either.

 

[Route44]

What T says again. The error code is again 0x1E and it specifically cited memory corruption. These reads happen either because 1) the memory is bad or 2) voltage settings. Other possibilities are a) overclocked (which you didn't do), b) memory not seated correctly, or c) the motherboard DIMM slots are themselves defected and thus it is a motherboard issue.

 

[Stonerose92]

Is it possible at all to alter the voltage settings without going into the BIOS itself?

 

[Route44]

Is it possible at all to alter the voltage settings without going into the BIOS itself?

No. What is your BIOS, ie. Phoenix Award, American, etc.?

 

[Stonerose92]

No. What is your BIOS, ie. Phoenix Award, American, etc.?

It's an intel BIOS i think, i tried updating it via the intel website but the only version they provide of my motherboard model, doesn't actually work with mine, it's a couple of version numbers out.. and when i try to install it, i can't

 

[Tmagic650]

When you enter the bios it should tell you the name and bios version. Have you ever entered the bios at all?

 

[Stonerose92]

When you enter the bios it should tell you the name and bios version. Have you ever entered the bios at all?

Lol that's a bit rude bro, of course I have. I just don't have a super powered photographic memory. I'll find out my BIOS info in a second. This computer was bought about 6 years ago, the BIOS doesn't actually let you do much.

 

[Stonerose92]

BIOS Version : CP94510J.15A

 

[Tmagic650]

Are you in the United States? You think my question was rude? We are getting no where here... 6 year old computer running XP? I didn't think Intel made bios, and a don't think Intel made bios at all

 

[Stonerose92]

Yeah i did a bit, assuming i'd never been into the BIOS because I couldn't remember the BIOS model. I'm from Scotland, and the computer was bought here. It might have been bought with windows xp... but I do have a feeling it actually came with vista, maybe a year or so after vista came out.

Anyway I'm going to replace the RAM, see if I get anywhere with that, i'll try to solve the problem by process of elimination..

Btw, I recently replaced my processor, a wild guess but do you think this may have altered the voltage going to the RAM slots? Oh, and I replaced it because I was getting BSOD's with that too, something about the interrupt line if I remember correctly.

 

[Tmagic650]

We don't ever want to know your dogs or mother or fathers names, but it is always nice to know where a member is in the World. Computers in Europe and in your country are a bit different than computers are here in the US. Social Media makes us feel like we all one in one place, but we are not I don't use Intel made motherboards, but I do use Intel chipset motherboards from other manufacturers. The bios number makes no sense to me and yes, the CPU change could have thrown things off a bit. What was the original and the current CPU models?

 

[Stonerose92]

We don't ever want to know your dogs or mother or fathers names, but it is always nice to know where a member is in the World. Computers in Europe and in your country are a bit different than computers are here in the US. Social Media makes us feel like we all one in one place, but we are not I don't use Intel made motherboards, but I do use Intel chipset motherboards from other manufacturers. The bios number makes no sense to me and yes, the CPU change could have thrown things off a bit. What was the original and the current CPU models?

Alright Umm, well the CPU was actually the same, i bought it off ebay, it was an Intel Pentium D 2.8ghz. But! there was a slight change in the numbers at the end, i'm no CPU whizz so I can't really describe what the number meant.. The number of this had 820 at the end, think my older one was a higher number, maybe 900 or so? I wish I kept my old CPU so I could actaully describe it better..

 

[Tmagic650]

Those numbers probably have to do with the CPU's Bus speeds and since you replaced the original CPU with a lower number CPU, this could be an issue. CPU's hardly ever fail except if they are over-heated for a long time. Errors like you described from the CPU are usually not caused by the CPU but by bios settings, Windows corruption or memory problems. It really sounds like your Intel motherboard is a little too picky when it comes to memory and CPU types

 

[Stonerose92]

Those numbers probably have to do with the CPU's Bus speeds and since you replaced the original CPU with a lower number CPU, this could be an issue. CPU's hardly ever fail except if they are over-heated for a long time. Errors like you described from the CPU are usually not caused by the CPU but by bios settings, Windows corruption or memory problems. It really sounds like your Intel motherboard is a little too picky when it comes to memory and CPU types

Ok, yeah, I think it was an overheat issue before though, my CPU quite often got extremely hot and I being quite ignorant, didn't notice until something went wrong. But anyway, I ordered some RAM. Will keep you guys informed! Thanks for the help so far btw

 

[Stonerose92]

Just changed my RAM, still got the 3.25GB available error even though it's 2x2GB.. No BSOD yet but will keep you informed!

 

[Stonerose92]

Ok, even with the RAM being changed i'm still getting BSOD errors..
Been looking into my BIOS a lot more.. the only changeable options in the memory section is this:

SDRAM Control
Memory Frequency (Changeable between 400-667 Mhz)
SDRAM tcl (Changeable between 3-5)
SDRAM trcd (Changeable between 2-5)
SDRAM tRP (Changeable between 2-5)
SDRAM tRADmin (Changeable between 1-5)

Could the problem possibly be solved here?

 

[Stonerose92]

Keep getting BSOD's, I'm actually contemplating smashing this computer up with a sledgehammer ..

I tried only slotting one RAM , only one of my new RAMS, still BSOD..
Here's the dmp file, just if you guys are able to see any differences between this and the old one

 

[Tmagic650]

The bios should automatically choose the right memory speeds (400-667MHz) Can you set the SDRAM Control to manual, highlighting more memory adjustments like SDRAM voltage?