California just gave police a way to ticket Waymo and other robotaxis

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What just happened? California regulators are introducing new accountability rules for autonomous vehicles, addressing a fundamental issue: when something goes wrong, there is no human driver to hold responsible. Under regulations adopted this week by the California Department of Motor Vehicles, police will be able to issue citations to the companies operating driverless vehicles rather than to the vehicles themselves. The rules take effect July 1 and stem from a 2024 law aimed at tightening oversight of autonomous driving systems.

The change defines how violations are handled when the "driver" is software. The gap has already caused confusion. In San Bruno last year, police stopped a Waymo vehicle after it made an illegal U-turn but were unable to issue a ticket. "Since there was no human driver, a ticket couldn't be issued," San Bruno Police Department said in a statement at the time.

The new process places responsibility on manufacturers. If a vehicle breaks traffic laws, officers can issue a notice of "noncompliance," triggering a DMV review. "If the manufacturer is unable to remediate the issue, the Department may restrict, suspend, or revoke the manufacturer's operating permit," the department said in a statement.

That authority goes beyond traditional traffic enforcement. The DMV can limit where fleets operate, how fast they travel, and the conditions under which they operate. It effectively ties system performance to whether a company can continue operating.

The rules come as autonomous vehicles continue to encounter edge cases that challenge their perception and decision-making systems. In San Francisco last year, a power outage left Waymo vehicles stalled in intersections, contributing to traffic congestion. More recently, in Austin, officials reported that a Waymo vehicle blocked an ambulance responding to a shooting.

These incidents point to ongoing technical limitations. Autonomous systems rely on sensors, mapping, and real-time decision-making software to interpret complex environments. Situations involving emergency vehicles or disrupted infrastructure can still cause failures, especially when timing is critical.

California's updated framework also addresses how autonomous fleets respond to emergency responders. Companies will be required to establish communication protocols with local authorities and ensure vehicles can be moved out of designated emergency areas within two minutes of receiving instructions.

The regulations also expand testing and operational requirements. The DMV is adding stricter testing requirements for permitting, along with new standards for training employees who assist with remote vehicle operations.

Companies will also be required to collect and report more detailed data on safety-related incidents, expanding the state's visibility into how these systems perform outside controlled testing environments.

State officials framed the rules as part of a broader effort to balance innovation with oversight. "California continues to lead the nation in the development and adoption of A.V. technology, and these updated regulations further demonstrate the state's commitment to public safety," DMV Director Steve Gordon said in a statement. "These updates support the growth of the A.V. industry by enhancing public safety and transparency while adding additional accountability for A.V. manufacturers."

Waymo, which operates one of the largest robotaxi fleets in the US, said it is reviewing the regulations but declined to comment further. The company has previously said its vehicles are designed to follow traffic laws and yield to emergency vehicles, and that it uses real-world data to improve performance over time.

While other states, including Arizona, already allow citations involving autonomous vehicles, California's approach ties enforcement more directly to how these systems operate. It shifts the focus from documenting violations to shaping how the technology performs.

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Perhaps this will provide the stimulus for autonomous vehicle manufacturers to improve their product. It sounds like autonomous vehicles are erring as if they were driven by humans. What's the point of making them autonomous, then? Eventually, one of these "human" mistakes by an autonomous vehicle will cause an accident or perhaps a death. That's not part of the promise of autonomous vehicles which is to be safer than human drivers, IMO.
 
So you want them to make radical changes overnight disregarding all the processes that would have to be followed for an adequate transition?
No, we want them to receive applications for anything “new” on the road and then have them pass appropriate laws BEFORE allowing them on the road. This SHOULD be common sense… alas, practicality is the stumbling block… it takes a few years for laws to get passed - even obvious ones like this…

I don’t blame the companies for wanting to get their products out ASAP… I blame bureaucrats for taking forever to policing new stuff…
 
That's kind of ridiculous (so California is no surprise). An autonomous car will never 'want' to violate a rule, if this happens it's because the cameras missed a sign that wasn't clearly visible. A sign that's not clearly visible is usually a fault of the local authorities - so California should ticket itself.
 
That's kind of ridiculous (so California is no surprise). An autonomous car will never 'want' to violate a rule, if this happens it's because the cameras missed a sign that wasn't clearly visible. A sign that's not clearly visible is usually a fault of the local authorities - so California should ticket itself.

Ridiculous post, pretending like these autonomous vehicles are never at fault. Is making illegal U-turns, blocking emergency vehicles or blowing past stopped school buses because of hidden signs? Sounds like you just wanted an excuse to rant about California.
 
So you want them to make radical changes overnight disregarding all the processes that would have to be followed for an adequate transition?
If the government would have regulated their actions before, then these companies wouldn't have to make changes overnight, but now that they getting fined, I'm sure they are rushing to do it but more carefully.
 
It sounds like autonomous vehicles are erring as if they were driven by humans. What's the point of making them autonomous, then?
Glad you asked! The overarching point at present is to free humans from the inane drudgery of a life driving around other humans -- and making taxi travel cheaper in the process.

Eventually, one of these "human" mistakes by an autonomous vehicle will cause an accident or perhaps a death. That's not part of the promise of autonomous vehicles which is to be safer than human drivers, IMO.
Was that a joke? Autonomous vehicles are *already* safer than human drivers -- and improving every year, which human drivers are not. But no one promised autonomous vehicles would eliminate 100% of all traffic fatalities .... just that they would drastically reduce the one million people a year killed on the road.
 
Ridiculous post, pretending like these autonomous vehicles are never at fault. Is making illegal U-turns, blocking emergency vehicles or blowing past stopped school buses because of hidden signs? Sounds like you just wanted an excuse to rant about California.
Of course autonomous vehicles are every now and then at fault. Extremely rare, but happens. Let's ponder, what would be the effect of ticketing such car making an illegal U-turn or whatever.

Obviously, the positive effect is exactly zero. It's a bureaucratic id1ocy that would be costly in terms of time and money, and it's burdening the police with even more meaningless activities - so it actually reduces the public safety instead of improving it.

A typical California nonsense. The title could have been "One state just burdened the police with ticketing robotaxis", no need to tell it's California.
 
Of course autonomous vehicles are every now and then at fault. Extremely rare, but happens. Let's ponder, what would be the effect of ticketing such car making an illegal U-turn or whatever.

Obviously, the positive effect is exactly zero. It's a bureaucratic id1ocy that would be costly in terms of time and money, and it's burdening the police with even more meaningless activities - so it actually reduces the public safety instead of improving it.

A typical California nonsense. The title could have been "One state just burdened the police with ticketing robotaxis", no need to tell it's California.
We like things done properly here, none of that nonsense about entitled companies!
 
We like things done properly here, none of that nonsense about entitled companies!
Well, the way it's "done properly" makes both people and businesses flee en masse. If it keeps being "done properly", soon there will be only junkies, illegals, criminals and commies around. But they'll not stay for long because parasites can't exist without a host.
 
Well, the way it's "done properly" makes both people and businesses flee en masse. If it keeps being "done properly", soon there will be only junkies, illegals, criminals and commies around. But they'll not stay for long because parasites can't exist without a host.
The whole country is a mess, California is at least trying to do what governments do. Too much of the rest seems hell bent on fleecing people and pretending that's normal. Taking your taxes and then profiting from them is not good government. Neither is not providing services.
 
California is at least trying to do what governments do.
Governments are supposed to protect the populace and provide a stable environment where business and the economy can thrive. This measure does neither.

Too much of the rest seems hell bent on fleecing people and pretending that's normal.
Is that why millions of Californians are presently fleeing their hell-hole of a state to other parts of the country? Of the four US states losing population, California is seeing by far the largest population declines -- declines which would be even more massive, were it not for the influx of millions of illegal immigrants.

Taking your taxes and then profiting from them is not good government.
That explains why California has the highest tax rates of any US state, and still generates enormous deficits, by squandering it on wasteful projects like their failed high-speed rail line: originally quoted as costing $15B, but will now exceed $230B ... with more than the original $15B already spent without even one single mile of rail line laid.
 
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That's kind of ridiculous (so California is no surprise). An autonomous car will never 'want' to violate a rule, if this happens it's because the cameras missed a sign that wasn't clearly visible. A sign that's not clearly visible is usually a fault of the local authorities - so California should ticket itself.
True, but a human driver might reason that there ought to be a sign, or there was a sign that was twisted such that it could not be read by automated cars. Perhaps they should program the cars with such data, as to where signs are/were, etc.
 
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